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Old May 19, 2004, 11:08 AM   #1
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Big Grin Look who is back http://www.michaelscomputers.com

http://www.michaelscomputers.com

yeah the idiot is back online. this time he is a bit more carefull and he doesnt have 4Ghz processors and processors which do not exist etc.

still some funny claims he makes, outrages prizes and loads of bullpoo

he does lie here and there a little about his products maybe if you email the companies he gets his stuff from complaining he wont be allowed to sell this stuff any more or gets a lawsuite.


MS service pack 2? for example is a great one
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Old May 19, 2004, 11:12 AM   #2
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A few reasons to own the world's finest MX8:


Fastest Processor - Intel's Pentium 4 3400MHz 'E' HT Processor


Sorry AMD...your just not powerful enough!


Up to a MASSIVE 500GB Total SATA Hard Drive Storage Space


1024MB PC4000 TwinX Corsair DDR Memory


ATI RADEON 9800XT 256MB AGP 8X DDR2 W/TV & DVI


Fastest 52X/32X/52X INTERNAL CD-RW BURN PROOF


Fastest 8X DVD-R / DVD-RW REWRITABLE DRIVE


CREATIVE LABS SoundBlaster AUDIGY 2 ZS PLATINUM PRO


And Much More!
9800 XT? No X800? The 3400 "E" Intel is the fastest? LMAO.
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Old May 19, 2004, 11:13 AM   #3
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www.tomshardware.com and do a search for it! his old website was the killer!!!
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Old May 19, 2004, 12:17 PM   #4
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[IMG]Michael’s Computers offers a full EIGHT-YEAR WARRANTY for all of our amazing MX8-Systems. We are so confident that each and every MX8 will work smoothly from the first day, that we can extend such a long warranty. We test every aspect of the computer to make sure it works perfectly and flawlessly. Each machine is as if we were building it for ourselves.....and we love perfection. With hundreds of systems sold and an outstanding zero percent return ratio, we know that your decision to purchase from us far surpasses anything else you will find on the market. [/IMG]

ROFL


When ordering, user decides on operating system of choice: Windows Millennium or Windows 2000 Professional Edition.


ROFL LOL

http://www.michaelscomputers.com/MX8IntelSystems.htm

look athe the prices rofl



read his coments testmeionals lol wrot by him self of course

http://www.michaelscomputers.com/Mic...r_Comments.htm



here is old old artical about this guy

http://www4.tomshardware.com/column/...e_true-01.html

someone shure fire an email to ms about the service pack 2

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Old May 19, 2004, 12:27 PM   #5
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This should be reported to CA authorities. The guy is running a scam. I feel bad for any smuck who falls for this.
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Old May 19, 2004, 12:32 PM   #6
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This should be reported to CA authorities. The guy is running a scam. I feel bad for any smuck who falls for this.


Regional Sales Team:


Kim Brown (Eastern United States Region Sales)


Jon Rucinski (Southern California/Orange County Region Sales)


Mistelle Hererra (Western United States Region Sales)



thats just sooo messed up i saveing his entire site

the contect and home page buttions fail lol



Money Back GUARANTEE


omfg this is too much

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Our Guarantee Is Simple...

If for any reason, you are not completely satisfied with your system from Michael's Computers, simply ship back to us within 21 days and we will promptly refund your amount paid.

The reason we do this is simple. From the time we began selling systems countrywide (back in 1996), we have never had a customer return a computer! That is because EVERY MX8 system that we design and build, we do so as if that system was going to be run by us day in and day out. We know how using the finest quality components results in the best MX8 systems made. No "chance" for substitution is ever used on ANY level of design.

We firmly believe no other computer company takes such an effort in building so much confidence in their systems. That's another reason why we offer such an outstanding long 8 Year Warranty. We know our MX8 systems LAST and they continue to outperform all others in this nation.

Your satisfaction will go far beyond your expectations.....and that is why I can personally say , "You will never find a system that runs better, looks better, sounds better or even feels better than a system from Michael's Computers".

You have my word on it.
michael
I'm gonna contact the better business bueru

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Old May 19, 2004, 12:42 PM   #7
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look what I found on the bbb website

Michaels Computers

This Report was developed from various sources, including the business, governmental agencies, and the experience of the company's customers.

For further information contact the Better Business Bureau of the Southland
315 N. La Cadena, Colton, CA, 92324
(909) 825-7280

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Michaels Computers
844 Padilla Street
San Gabriel CA 91776

Business Started: 01/01/96
File Open Date: 03/22/01
Last Report Date: 03/03/04
Principal Contact: Michael Gonzales

Phone: (877) 739-0205
Fax: Not Available
Email: Not Available
Web Address: http://www.michaelscomputers.com

Bureau ID: 13150008




Nature of Business
This company's business is sales of computer and related items.

Bureau File Experience

Mail sent to this company was either returned by the post office " moved; left no forward address, " " forward order has expired, " " unable to locate " , or the telephone numbers are disconnected. The Bureau cannot trace addresses or telephone numbers of companies or principals. General information is available upon request which may assist you.

Based on BBB files, this company has an unsatisfactory record with the Bureau. An unsatisfactory record is given when a pattern in the company's customer complaints causes us concern, when the company does not respond to complaints, or when it will not substantiate its advertising claims.


In this case, our complaint history for this company shows that although the business has responded to customer complaints brought to its attention by the Bureau, some remain unresolved because the customers were not always satisfied with the company's response.


A Better Business Bureau report is based on our file information and experience with an individual company over the past three years.


The Better Business Bureau does not endorse, recommend, or disapprove of any company, product, or service.




Additional Phone Numbers
(818) 878 - 1942

Additional Trade names
Michael's Computers

Additional Addresses
There are no additional addresses for this company on file.

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Old May 19, 2004, 12:46 PM   #8
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oh yeah the famous michael who offered a 9600 pro based system with a score of 15,000+ in 3dmark03 at one stage last year. what a loser. avoid at ALL costs.
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Old May 19, 2004, 12:54 PM   #9
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and finnals his domain name info...

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Registrant:
Michael's Computers (MICHAELSCOMPUTERS-DOM)
18733 Applewood Circle
Huntington Beach, CA 92646
US

Domain Name: MICHAELSCOMPUTERS.COM

Administrative Contact:
Gonzales, Michael (MG11222) mikgonzo@AOL.COM
Michael's Computers
6642 ALEXANDRIA DR
HUNTINGTON BH, CA 92647-2620
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(714) 962-5614 fax: 999 999 9999

Technical Contact:
Michael's Computers (31337023O) mikgonzo@AOL.COM
18733 Applewood Circle
Huntington Beach, CA 92646
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(714) 962-5614 fax: 999 999 9999
everyone go to www.bbb.org and file compaints of false adverstiesing
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Old May 19, 2004, 01:00 PM   #10
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It is assholes like this that make legit computer system builders look bad.
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Old May 19, 2004, 01:02 PM   #11
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It is assholes like this that make legit computer system builders look bad.
well everyone please go to the site I linked to and file a compaint .....
and plase post here if and or that you did

people have to compain for it to be handled!!!!!!!


also if you wanna try law enforcement here is his suposad local PD (going with his domain name adress)
http://www.hbpd.org/indexg2.htm

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Old May 19, 2004, 01:06 PM   #12
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With hundreds of systems sold and an outstanding zero percent return ratio, he forgot to add "cause we won't take them back EVER"
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Old May 19, 2004, 01:12 PM   #13
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From what I've seen, this guy is scary; he even claims that you should buy from him because he is a Christian!

"I only choose Michael's Computers over any other company because it’s far better to know the maker and someone you can trust and is a Christian"

I like this quote:

"As I write this I am playing a live concert recording, decoding another audio file to .WAV format, burning a CD, downloading multiple files, working on high resolution photos in Paint Shop Pro, and just for fun I launched Norton's virus scanner, all at the same time"
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Old May 19, 2004, 01:26 PM   #14
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From what I've seen, this guy is scary; he even claims that you should buy from him because he is a Christian!

"I only choose Michael's Computers over any other company because it’s far better to know the maker and someone you can trust and is a Christian"

I like this quote:

"As I write this I am playing a live concert recording, decoding another audio file to .WAV format, burning a CD, downloading multiple files, working on high resolution photos in Paint Shop Pro, and just for fun I launched Norton's virus scanner, all at the same time"

man if he just sell what hes been smokeing he'd make a fortune...

I made an offtopic post on this @ rage3d as well people need to be warned about this guy
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Old May 19, 2004, 01:27 PM   #15
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You need to get in contact with the Fraud Department with the FBI. They take monetary fraud the most serious, so it will most likely be delt with.
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Old May 19, 2004, 03:45 PM   #16
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i happen to like the 8 year warranty lol
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Old May 19, 2004, 05:47 PM   #17
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What I find most disturbing is this...

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http://www.michaelscomputers.com
Sorry AMD...your just not powerful enough!
It's spelled "you're", not "your"!
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Old May 19, 2004, 06:01 PM   #18
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"Michael's MX8 top of the line systems have up to an astonishing 6 PCI Slots including 8X AGP to accelerate your graphics even further with the fastest ATI Radeon 9800XT 256MB DDR Video Card! "

I'm stunned!! 6 PCI slots!!?? i've never seen a motherboard with SIX pci slots!!! AMAZING!!

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"Increase the astonishing standard amount of memory all the way up to 2GB of memory down the road. Sure, 128MB, 256MB or even 512MB of memory is plenty to get through all applications, gaming and still have room to breath, when your needs grow and you want to increase memory size even greater, the MX8's are the only systems that can do so with NO compatibility problems!"

Is this guy for real??
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Old May 19, 2004, 07:56 PM   #20
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Intel's Pentium 4 3400MHz 'E' HT Processor----i hope he meant EE and isnt just a complete nincompoop
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Hmm i think i may give the BBB a call tomorrow.
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Old May 19, 2004, 09:16 PM   #22
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I'm stunned!! 6 PCI slots!!?? i've never seen a motherboard with SIX pci slots!!! AMAZING!!

Didn't you know? My dead epox board had 6-pci slots and even though it was dead, I sold it on ebay for 300 dollars. Just imagine how much it was worth when it worked.
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Old May 19, 2004, 09:47 PM   #23
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This is just to freaking hilarious....
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isn;t it 6.4?
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