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Old May 20, 2004, 08:17 AM   #31
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i read that article lol they proved he's a con artist
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Old May 20, 2004, 08:35 AM   #32
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Old May 20, 2004, 08:35 AM   #33
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yeah but now he has changed (caugh caugh) I just emailed some hardware sites and enquirer about him maybe we will see again whats happening. Maybe somebody will buy a system from him to see and proof that he does not delive!
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Old May 20, 2004, 08:55 AM   #34
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yeah but now he has changed (caugh caugh) I just emailed some hardware sites and enquirer about him maybe we will see again whats happening. Maybe somebody will buy a system from him to see and proof that he does not delive!
how about you just send me/paypal $2,000 - 3,000 instead lol and you actally get a real machine and fast to but not as fast as his
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Old May 20, 2004, 09:19 AM   #35
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"Save $200 on any system by deducting from price you see online and making a business/personal check or money order out to "
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Old May 20, 2004, 09:24 AM   #36
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This guy has way too much time on his hand. I wonder how many of those wonderfully positive customer comments are actually buddies of his involved in the scam. Makes you think. This is one time where I wish someone would hack a site and deface it. Put up something about how the site is a scam. Maybe some non knowing fools will save a few thousand dollars.
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Old May 20, 2004, 09:39 AM   #37
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This guy has way too much time on his hand. I wonder how many of those wonderfully positive customer comments are actually buddies of his involved in the scam. Makes you think. This is one time where I wish someone would hack a site and deface it. Put up something about how the site is a scam. Maybe some non knowing fools will save a few thousand dollars.
forget thier are fake as wekk an the maxuim pc awards etc no one has ever reviewed one of his systems .... and no one has probubly gotten one ... you send him money he keeps it end of story
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Old May 20, 2004, 10:00 AM   #38
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someones it typing fast ^
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Old May 20, 2004, 10:54 AM   #39
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lol....i'm a bit bored...and out of school..i'm gunna go poke around hsi site and see what I can find
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Old May 20, 2004, 11:41 AM   #40
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HAHAHAHAHA...this is amazing:
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http://www.prweb.com/releases/2004/5/prwebxml124107.php
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Registrant:
Michael's Computers (MICHAELSCOMPUTERS-DOM)
18733 Applewood Circle
Huntington Beach, CA 92646
US

Domain Name: MICHAELSCOMPUTERS.COM

Administrative Contact:
Gonzales, Michael (MG11222) mikgonzo@AOL.COM
Michael's Computers
6642 ALEXANDRIA DR
HUNTINGTON BH, CA 92647-2620
US
(714) 962-5614 fax: 999 999 9999

Technical Contact:
Michael's Computers (31337023O) mikgonzo@AOL.COM
18733 Applewood Circle
Huntington Beach, CA 92646
US
(714) 962-5614 fax: 999 999 9999

Record expires on 20-Jan-2005.
Record created on 20-Jan-1999.
Database last updated on 20-May-2004 11:57:09 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:

SERVER.WEBCOUNTRY.NET 216.65.111.2
NS2.WEBCOUNTRY.NET 209.134.21.2
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"Tell your friends or colleagues about Michael's Computers. Click to Recommend-It and walk away with $10000 Dollars"
----an exerpt from an email he actually responded to (SPadje, over on the futuremark forums)
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The man has an AOL account instead of an emaila ddress, even tho his host provides POP3 email,
he listed his fax as 999-999-9999,
he has the same phone # for both of the 1st 2 addresses listed,
His based on admin and tech contacts, it appears he either can't lie the same way twice, or has 2 stores,
He DID get the proper area code for his address...whcih surprised me,
his website has YET ANOTHER (3 so far) addresses listed in Marina Del Ray, CA, which is in area code 310, which is about 40-50 miles from the other 2 stores, not to mention I can't find any mention of a suite 359 in that building, and it isnt in the yellow pages
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Having top of the line components throughout your computer provides you with so many benefits! Here is a short list of some of them:

1. Longer MTBF. MTBF is Mean Time Before Failure! The fact is nothing in this world lasts forever, but the components in Michaels Computers are rated to last MUCH longer than the hard drives, motherboards, fans, and other critical parts of most PC's. Of course that's a major reason we can offer the Best Warranty Anywhere!

2. Better precision engineering. This translates to less mistakes. Have you ever been subjected to the dreaded Blue Screen of Death for apparently no reason at all? Most people don't realize that the software isn't always to blame. Cheap hardware is cheap hardware, period. From the power supply to the hard drive to the smallest detail in your PC, Michael's Computers will use the best precision engineered hardware available on the market. This means far less errors and crashes and less teeth gritting on your part. Your system will last a long time, be rock solid stable, and gremlin free.


MTBF....haha more bullshit from 'the man'
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Michael's SuperComputers
California/Worldwide
877-739-0205

Yet another phone Number (toll free!!!)...and a new title of "SuperComputers"
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Michael's Computers License #AP-093861

Yall can look..but I couldn't find anything on this, much less what it is.
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Michael's Computers is not even a legal business, as it has no business license on file in the state of California
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Kim Brown (Eastern United States Region Sales)
Jon Rucinski (Southern California/Orange County Region Sales)
Mistelle Hererra (Western United States Region Sales)

Apparently he has some friends in thsi with him(imaginary ro real people...lol)
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“We have computers from every company & your MX System is by far the fastest. Our technicians have seen literally hundreds of cutting-edge computers from every manufacturer and they practically drooled over your MX Systems"
- United States Navy California / Sidewinder Missile Development Team

My favorite testimonial...and one I am seriously thinking fo reporting and getting him in trouble for.
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His testimonials all seem to be real people..I checked a few, such as the Chiropractor at the bottom, and they all appear legit enough (I think they should sue)
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The outstanding MX8-Advanced does all this and more:
Digital Video Editing BUILT IN!
5.1, 6.1 and 7.1 Channel Surround Sound Audio!
HDTV Capable Output from Graphics!
No Dropped Frames with RAID Hard Drives!


WTF is built in video editing and 'dropped frames'?
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More lame quotes off his site:
http://www.michaelscomputers.com/MX8IntelSystems.htm

What is an 8x8 DVD Burner, what is SATA-X, How can he already be shipping SP2 if it's still in Beta, etc etc...this man si a fool
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So..sorry thsi was so long..but you will enjoy it...and I took the liberty of reporting Microsoft's anti-piracy people for distrubiting/resellign beta copies, cheers!
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Old May 20, 2004, 02:09 PM   #41
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there is a wonderful camera interview, when toms caught up with him on this page for those who havent seen it http://www4.tomshardware.com/column/...e_true-07.html here. its fascinating to watch him talk and talk, most of it crap.
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Old May 20, 2004, 07:51 PM   #42
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wow....
"I could not be more pleased with my new PC from Michael's Computers. As I write this I am playing a live concert recording, decoding another audio file to .WAV format, burning a CD, downloading multiple files, working on high resolution photos in Paint Shop Pro, and just for fun I launched Norton's virus scanner, all at the same time. Digital photo editing, audio encoding, jaw-dropping gaming, no matter what I throw at this thing it doesn't slow down, crash, or warn me about resources. With this pristine build, industry leading components, a great price and an unbeatable warranty, I couldn't possibly be happier. Not only that but my every question and concern has been addressed almost immediately. As an IT professional I'm glad to finally be able to recommend a PC vendor to my peers and associates with confidence. Michael's is it."

First off who runs all that crap and then opens norton? Two what IT professional buys a computer? I know i would build my system.
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Old May 20, 2004, 07:59 PM   #43
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wow....
"I could not be more pleased with my new PC from Michael's Computers. As I write this I am playing a live concert recording, decoding another audio file to .WAV format, burning a CD, downloading multiple files, working on high resolution photos in Paint Shop Pro, and just for fun I launched Norton's virus scanner, all at the same time. Digital photo editing, audio encoding, jaw-dropping gaming, no matter what I throw at this thing it doesn't slow down, crash, or warn me about resources. With this pristine build, industry leading components, a great price and an unbeatable warranty, I couldn't possibly be happier. Not only that but my every question and concern has been addressed almost immediately. As an IT professional I'm glad to finally be able to recommend a PC vendor to my peers and associates with confidence. Michael's is it."

First off who runs all that crap and then opens norton? Two what IT professional buys a computer? I know i would build my system.
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Old May 20, 2004, 08:09 PM   #44
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my favorites are all the chiropracters...what kinda back-cracking guy plays hardcore games?...if you ahve a provate rpactice u don't have time for that...and quickbooks isnt a CPU itnensive product...lol
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Bull crap in the FACE lol its so obvious his lying
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Old May 21, 2004, 12:34 AM   #46
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my favorites are all the chiropracters...what kinda back-cracking guy plays hardcore games?...if you ahve a provate rpactice u don't have time for that...and quickbooks isnt a CPU itnensive product...lol

couldnt agree more, my bro is a chiro and he forgot how to even play lol. sometimes he plays nba live but its so rare maybe once a year.
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Old May 21, 2004, 02:26 AM   #47
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cant they do something about this guy? this is highly illegal stuff!
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Old May 21, 2004, 05:06 AM   #48
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yes you can. like me i emailed some hardware sites to investigate him and the inquirer. who where quiete happy with my email
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so in that interview he says his laptop's are water-cooled. wtf lol. I loved the part where he tells how someone tried to steal one in another country and he had to get a detective to go and bust them, hahaha.
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Old May 21, 2004, 06:35 AM   #50
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this guy is a scammer, nothing more, nothing less, only thing we don;t know is when he will get busted
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cant they do something about this guy? this is highly illegal stuff!
i reported him to microsoft for reselling Beta copies and unreleased products...haha...sadly i think microsoft will find him long before the law does
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Words cannot express how much I despise this guy for his evil tactics
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