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Apr 16, 2004, 08:17 PM
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DH's Dormant Dragon
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PowerVR Series 5 To be unveiled?
"There are rumours going around that the GPU will get an unveiling soon, very soon "
more~ http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewto...hlight=powervr
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Apr 16, 2004, 08:50 PM
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wonder how it will compete w/ the current giants?
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Apr 16, 2004, 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by dj_stick
wonder how it will compete w/ the current giants?
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don't get started! 
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Apr 16, 2004, 09:26 PM
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don't get started!
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PV what? 
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Apr 16, 2004, 09:42 PM
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Power VR chips are so much more interesting then ATi or Nvidia, there technology isn't bandwidth but how to reduce it and still have the speed by finding hidden pixels and not drawing them, if ATi or Nvidai were as good at it as PowerVR there would be a leap of about 20-50% in FPS from what I understand
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Apr 16, 2004, 09:45 PM
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strange then that nvidia or ati havent swallowed up power vr as a company....as in voodoos case.
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Apr 16, 2004, 09:48 PM
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There not some fly by night company they make alot of parts for Arcade games not for desktops, there worth probably more then ATi or Nvidia is willing to pay and they have the liscense for that tech, and NO ONE can use it without there permission atleast if I rmeber right from talking with that 3DFX engineer back in the day
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Apr 16, 2004, 10:19 PM
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smells like another parahelia piece of crap card
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Apr 16, 2004, 10:31 PM
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i wouldn't say something like that until i see benchmarks and performance results
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Apr 16, 2004, 10:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Gizmo[5h1t3]
strange then that nvidia or ati havent swallowed up power vr as a company....as in voodoos case.
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not possible.... PowerVR's worth is quite a bit... pretty well ever arcade machine that has good preformance and graphics... is gauranteed to be PVR tech running in it..... They are amazing..
Big Brown.. lol.... not the case...
Kyro 2 was a very nice leap forward and still pushes some rather impressive numbers.... those that had successfully modded there kyro 2's to run with 4x agp enabled so that they can put it in new mobo's.... are very pleased.. sure.. it's getting dated... but it's pushing numbers much better then any GTS or Geforce 4 MX card out there with current games..... of course... the only sad part is the lack of TnL support.....
seriously.. those with a hercules 4500 64mb agp... mem and core clocked at 175mhz.... and the specs on the card are barbarically brutal.... Tnt orginal anyone?... yet the power of it isn't relised till you see it in action...
Anisitropic filtering is the falling point... it wasn't a nessity at the time... mearly having support for it was enough.... most if not all of the last reviews that included the card... had Anisotropic filtering enabled..... meaning terrible results... you CAN'T look at those results and get a bases....
Look at Andantecs own review.... and that was using the first immature release of the drivers..... they went a long ways..
PLUS... PVR is the first to really get a working 3D Profiler that works... yes.. perfectly... no a single bug.... all the options at your fingertips..... i and other that have moved on from such hardware.... really miss that.. i know Hawk would agree.....
Only thing Hercules did wrong... they put an unreliable fan on the card...
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Apr 16, 2004, 10:53 PM
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Originally posted by dj_stick
i wouldn't say something like that until i see benchmarks and performance results
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think of it like this..... if the s5 had the same specs as the nv 6800..... and just considering the TBDR being included.... think 2-4x faster instantly...... (and when you start including PVR's own new technologies... expect the image quality.... features.. support.. you name it to meet right up with.. and even surpass ATI)
 (However.. major BASICS there though)
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Apr 16, 2004, 11:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by scobywhru
There not some fly by night company they make alot of parts for Arcade games not for desktops, there worth probably more then ATi or Nvidia is willing to pay and they have the liscense for that tech, and NO ONE can use it without there permission atleast if I rmeber right from talking with that 3DFX engineer back in the day
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I looked them up
PowerVR is a subsidary/part of of Imagination Technologies Ltd in the UK
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=IGNMF.PK&d=t
this pink stock not even, OTC, not even nasdaq again yet they have arently been at under a $1 a share for a very long time ... a strugglieng company lacking alot of investors
even if and that a big IF .. they have something to bring to the table and they havn't been bought up yet is most likely not the price but the astounding amount of debt they would most likely buy into along with it...
I'd guess this to be another s3, or volari like comany offering features but lack the power of the big brand cards if not I should be buying shares
where can raed read up on this small co?
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Apr 16, 2004, 11:14 PM
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neon..ever heard of MBX core?
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Apr 16, 2004, 11:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Judas
neon..ever heard of MBX core?
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mbx? no
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Apr 16, 2004, 11:37 PM
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you have any idea how many companies are in on the MBX alone?
have you even looked at the various screenshots... and info..
HAVE YOU EVEN been to http://www.powervr.com/
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seriously... PowerVR was one of.. if not the first to spit out full blown PS3.0 and VS3.0 demo's
hell there earlier cards had your name on em..  .. Neon 250 hehe (which were coupled together with a few of em and a full blown TnL unit used for arcades)....
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Apr 17, 2004, 10:35 AM
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Apr 17, 2004, 10:45 AM
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i'll lose a good chunk of faith in S5 when June rolls by..... then we can't expect anything for at least 6 months.. and more likely another year.. possibly 2
As for explaining what PVR is.... i posted a crapload of stuff for Neon.... hope he reads into and is plesently serprised... or at least it gets his attention
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Apr 17, 2004, 12:02 PM
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Consider this. PVR powered the dreamcast and that system was very powerful for it's time. Dispite the PS2 hype, they were pretty much even in graphics power.
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Apr 17, 2004, 03:46 PM
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i never did get to use a dreamcast.. let alone see one in action.....
but if you search the net.. you'll find the the dreamcast has much better graphics and overall preformance
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Apr 18, 2004, 06:02 AM
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my friend had a dream cast.. it matches mu cusins game cube 
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Apr 19, 2004, 05:28 AM
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Quote:
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Consider this. PVR powered the dreamcast and that system was very powerful for it's time. Dispite the PS2 hype, they were pretty much even in graphics power.
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As the ex owner of a PS/2 and DC they were not even in graphics power.
Not even close
DC had way better graphics. I would even go as far to say it's more powerful than the GC.
However, xBox rulez 
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Apr 19, 2004, 11:02 AM
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Gamecube has on par graphics and power as the Xbox..... 
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Apr 19, 2004, 11:06 AM
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In reality, the Xbox is the most powerful. Gamecube is the next and then it is the PS2 w/ DC pretty much tied with it. If anyone remembers Resident Evil: Code Veronica for the DC and how amazing that game was when it was first played knows what I am talking about here. And how about Shenmue when it first came out for DC. Amazing graphically if not boring waiting for 2 days for an appointed time to take place. Blah.
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Apr 19, 2004, 11:09 AM
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