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Old Feb 8, 2004, 10:56 PM   #1
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Eternal questions

This is heavy stuff but I was wondering if anyone wants to tackle these questions.

What is Pattern?
What is Time?
What is Space? (includes what is matter?)
What are Parallel Universes?
What is Infinity?
What are Humans? (includes our limitations and destiny)
What is Mind?
What is Life?
What is the Afterlife?
What is Love?
What is Evil? (includes what is good?)
What is Satan?
What is God?

I am just curious what people think about these questions, answers would be awesome, but it is food for thought...
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Old Feb 8, 2004, 10:58 PM   #2
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And good food it is for the mind...
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Old Feb 8, 2004, 11:25 PM   #3
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Re: Eternal questions

I'll give it a shot-

What is Pattern?
-Repetition



What is Time?
-Time is the measurement of the progression of events



What is Space? (includes what is matter?)
-space is nothing, matter is everything else



What are Parallel Universes?
-imagination
-strings



What is Infinity?
-never-ending
-never beginning



What are Humans? (includes our limitations and destiny) (who as well)
-us man! we are humans.
--limitations are things we haven't done yet
---destiny is where we end up


What is Mind?
-gray matter
--the way the universe sees itself
---where we all are
----memories, thought, idea, art

What is Life?
-being



What is the Afterlife?
-the beginning



What is Love?
-everything
-the reason


What is Evil? (includes what is good?)
-absence of good
-the opposite
-imperfection



What is Satan? (who)
-pure evil
-absence of God
-fallen angel
-deceiver
-hate
-greed
-etc, etc, ... bunch o names



What is God? (who)
-the word
-the light
-Omnipotence
-Omnipresence
-Omniscience
-all loving
-all giving
-direction
-the Alpha and Omega (not the drivers)
-Saviour
-protector of all
-final judgment



Best I could do on short notice. Do you know the meaning of life now? lol
-edit- added a few.

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Old Feb 8, 2004, 11:59 PM   #4
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What is the mind? Doesnt matter. What is matter.... nevermind.-Homer
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Actually... Perfection is Evil.....
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Old Feb 9, 2004, 03:04 AM   #6
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Re: Eternal questions

What is Pattern? what you use to help make a dress
What is Time? something you never have enough of
What is Space? (includes what is matter?) the space in our heads ( what you don't mind )
What are Parallel Universes? The place where you evil twin came from
What is Infinity? amount of time on a 99% download
What are Humans? (includes our limitations and destiny) gods toys
What is Mind? something noone uses
What is Life? what people always tell us to get
What is the Afterlife? where we go when god gets bored with us
What is Love? our excuse for lots of sex
What is Evil? (includes what is good?) ME!
What is Satan? that hercule guy off dbz/gt (mr.satan)
What is God? the guy that hates me
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I always liked Einstein's definition of time:

"Time is, what the watch says."
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Re: Re: Eternal questions

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What is Infinity? amount of time on a 99% download
tell me about it! LOL
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Old Feb 9, 2004, 08:23 AM   #9
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I love it, more creative answers please!!
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Re: Re: Eternal questions

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What are Parallel Universes?
-imagination
-strings

Super-strings are fascinating

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What is Infinity?
-never-ending
-never beginning
I find this extremely hard to define... If you base it around maths, then:

0 (divided by) infinity = any number

--- thus meaning that infinty would be a definate value, just an unknown definate value, so not truly infinite as the definition of the word may suggest.

Any number (divided by) 0 = infinty (not 0, as the common mis-conception would suggest)

and yet - any number (divided by) infinity = infinity (seems like even maths can contradict iteself!!!)
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Quote:
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Actually... Perfection is Evil.....
I disagree with that... the quest for perfection is evil

... what people have tried to acheive in their own perception of perfection. (ie. Hitler etc...)


I have another question for you guys!



Define perfection, and I don't mean the dictionary definition!!!































... you can't do it can you
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Old Feb 9, 2004, 12:03 PM   #12
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Quote:
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I always liked Einstein's definition of time:

"Time is, what the watch says."
... my mashuga



(I have no idea how to spell it! Just know how it sounds - this is it spelled phoenetically:

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Old Feb 9, 2004, 06:40 PM   #13
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Quote:
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(I have no idea how to spell it! Just know how it sounds - this is it spelled phoenetically:

mah---shoo---gah)
What? lol
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Old Feb 9, 2004, 10:47 PM   #14
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Re: Re: Re: Eternal questions

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Super-strings are fascinating
Yeah, quantum physics/mechanics is pretty amazing, but I personally think they went a little to far with parts of the string theory. The idea that all matter is at it's root made of strings vibrating in different shapes makes sense to me, and can explain allot about how sub atomic particles interact with each other and why that has nothing to do with why larger particles (bodies such as stars, planets, galaxies, black holes) don't play by the same rules. It seems plausible, but when they start talking about an infinite number of parallel universes or states of being, I think they are trying to blow smoke up "somewhere" to get more funding or something... or maybe my little brain just can't follow what they are trying to say, but I doubt it. I really do understand what they mean, I just don't agree with that part if it- they make some very large leaps.

Einstein and most other great thinkers back then just disregarded what happens on a subatomic level, at least strings start to attempt to explain it. Stephen Hawking at least try to combine quantum mechanics and the Newton's laws so they could both exist, and both be correct.. which goes to the next question..


"I find this extremely hard to define... If you base it around maths, then:
0 (divided by) infinity = any number --- thus meaning that infinty would be a definate value, just an unknown definate value, so not truly infinite as the definition of the word may suggest.
Any number (divided by) 0 = infinty
(not 0, as the common mis-conception would suggest)
and yet - any number (divided by) infinity = infinity (seems like even maths can contradict iteself!!!)"


Hawking radiation.

This is a quick description-

"Virtual particle pairs are constantly being created near the horizon of the black hole, as they are everywhere. Normally, they are created as a particle-antiparticle pair and they quickly annihilate each other. But near the horizon of a black hole, it's possible for one to fall in before the annihilation can happen, in which case the other one escapes as Hawking radiation."

In fact this argument also does not correspond in any clear way to the actual computation..

So this is another "fact" that really cannot be explained through math- yet


Ok, so your mathematical description of infinity is trying to do the same thing- sometimes you can't describe a theory through math.


My personal view? As soon as you do this--

"0 (divided by) infinity = any number --- thus meaning that infinty would be a definate value, just an unknown definate value, so not truly infinite as the definition of the word may suggest."

You are already off track. To me, infinity is envelopes everything- so once you start trying to describe it mathmatically, you can't add "another one" into the equation. There is only one infinity- any other number cannot exist outside of it, it is already part of it if infinity truly is infinity by the definition we use.

Kinda off topic I guess, but anyway...

Another thing that's hard to comprehend about infinity is the part about "no beginning"- I can fathom no ending, you just keep going and going and going, without end. I think we can comprehend this because we have a beginning, we were born, and before that we didn't exist yet.
But start trying to comprehend no beginning- It's very difficult to even imagine something having no beginning, it just doesn't make sense.
Where did it come form? Uhh, it's always been there- huh? who made it? -uhh, no one. Well how did it come to be? It didn't, it was already there. Your mind runs in circles, It's crazy.
Try explaining that with math.

ok, I'll quit babbleing now..
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Originally posted by tastyweat
I disagree with that... the quest for perfection is evil

... what people have tried to acheive in their own perception of perfection. (ie. Hitler etc...)


I have another question for you guys!



Define perfection, and I don't mean the dictionary definition!!!































... you can't do it can you
That's to simple... Perfection is what it's not.... Imperfect.... They are one in the same meaning....

When i said evil... i ment "satan" was considered to provide perfection... as a lure..... however... the desperate.. greedy ... are the ones that usually get caught up in it... and don't relise that perfection isn't exactly perfect...

I actually saw a movie quite a while ago.... a robber had robbed a bank... got shot... Satan froze time.. said he'd gone to heaven.... and do/have anything he wants..... also said he had a certain period of time before he had to choose between living again in the real world... or in "heaven" (he thought satan was actually god or some kind of representive)..... his perfection was winning every poker game.... getting away from cops after robbing more banks.... blah blah blah..... well... he got fed up... tried to lose only to realize he couldn't... to late.. he was caught....
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When i said evil... i ment "satan" was considered to provide perfection... as a lure
Are you saying satan is perfect? wtf? That's kinda F'ed up. Are you talking about BEFORE he was cast out of heaven?
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Are you saying satan is perfect? wtf? That's kinda F'ed up. Are you talking about BEFORE he was cast out of heaven?
no no... well maybe.... don't know...

What i was saying is... SATAN was saposed to lure people into his trap... by providing a "perfect" life or some kind of perfection... if they accepted it... he would take them.... they would be damned... or whatever would saposedly happen...

He/she was in heaven?
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Re: Eternal questions

Well... i'm going to place a few of my own possible opinions and thought on this now...

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What is Pattern?
Pattern... Repetition of some kind or some kind of endless loop... There are patterns in everything... from the basic to the most enormously huge and almost undefineable paterns.... in the end... every pattern can be and will end up being recognized.... catagorized... measured.. simulated... and tested... confirmed.. whathave you....

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What is Time?
Time is a 4th dimensional form. We are held at it's will as we don't completely understand it.. all we know if it is that it moves forware at a constant rate if we sit and do nothing... but it can be slowed... bent... and mauled over.. but appears to ever progress..... At some point.... we will fully understand it ... and use it... such as we learned about planes and flying....

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What is Space? (includes what is matter?)
Space.... a Vacume.... and plentyful..... Also highly unexplored and underestimated all the time..... we have yet to completely understand it.. as of all things

Matter on the other hand.... is something quite interesting as well... We know it takes up space.... but we also know that there is a exact negitive of it.... and the powers of both are amazing....

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What are Parallel Universes?
Possiblities.... Thoughts.... Ourselves contain a seperate universe and god...
Alternate Realities

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What is Infinity?
Abviously not Finite

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What are Humans?
Currently known be the dominant species of the plant.... an animal.... inpredicatable.... adaptive..... and carried by technology which can create and destroy us and everythign else.

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What is Mind?
Inconclusive to really even attempt to explain let alone describe...

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What is Life?
Exactly the way you see it... nothing more.. nothing less... you see it as your own... and walk it....

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What is the Afterlife?
More Possibilities..... high forms..... lower forms... to experience other things.... Mentally and physically...

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What is Love?
A VERY complex Emotion we have named..... it can decribe hates/likes and everything between

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What is Evil?
I've previously mentioned a few things...

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What is Satan?
A god? A Mythic devil? Or perhaps ourselves

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What is God?
God is who people believe in.... but god could/is you.... you controll what is around you.... trully... you controll were you are.. what you do... you see things... how do you know that these things around you isn't being controlled by you.... How can you trully know?....
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He/she was in heaven?
Yup- that is why he is called "fallen angel"- He was an angel created by God that became envious of God and wanted to become God, so God threw him into the lake of fire with all the other angels that were his followers- those are the demons.

Armageddon is when God is going to defeat Satan once and for all and throw him into hell forever- (or something like that) I'd have to read up on it to give you a correct interpretation. All very interesting stuff.
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so many different version of it.... ironic though... you cannot fight evil with evil.....
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What is Pattern?
Repetition/ reappearance

What is Time?
Time is the fire in which we all burn

What is Space? (includes what is matter?)
emptiness & opposite of matter

What are Parallel Universes?
repeating pattern

What is Infinity?
Space

What are Humans? (includes our limitations and destiny)
Animals who sometimes are able to think

What is Mind?
what we should use & not for others to exploit

What is Life?
not dead
7*6

What is the Afterlife?
...

What is Love?
A mirror

What is Evil? (includes what is good?)
Evil=doing wrong & knowing it
Good=doing right & not knowing it

What is Satan?
Adversary (comes from the midlle eastern word "Saitan"

What is God?
which one? mine or yours ?
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