New way to cool CPU looks cool

jjmd · Nov 13, 2003, 11:37 AM

This looks like the way to go. Direct air cooling from out side of case to the CPU.

http://www.sunbeamtech.com/new/produ...oler%20kit.htm

wertret · Nov 13, 2003, 11:46 AM

mmm..looks a little prehistoric to me

Any info about achieved temps?

**MIG-31** · Nov 13, 2003, 11:48 AM

seen around in a few stores,can't see that being very successful.

TonyMonTana · Nov 13, 2003, 11:49 AM

The idea is nice but it looks horrible, reminds me of a tumble dryer with the exhaust poking out of it!
It also seems that all it will do is take the heat from the cpu out of the case which if you have good airflow and fans postioned correctly aint a problem anyway.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Nov 13, 2003, 12:52 PM

it a duct mosd its been around for a while... big deal woul be lots and lots of dust...... there not the best idea

i dont take those temps eather unless the hot one is from a fanless case

jjmd · Nov 13, 2003, 01:01 PM

You think, you can allways put a filter on the front. I thought it would be nice ideal with a valcano fan84 cfms on the front blowing in, and another volcano fan on the heatsink blowing in for a push pull setup.
Then it would be a dedicated air sorce to the CPU. The nice thing about a case fan on the side case would mean it would be right there. Very short distance to the heatsink. Or even right out the back.

EDIT LOOK at the picture on their site it allready comes with a filter.

If i can find it for sale somewere cheap i might just try it.

Oblivious · Nov 13, 2003, 01:06 PM

Two words: Open Case. (open case works)

wertret · Nov 13, 2003, 01:06 PM

I have this installed on my thermaltake volcano 11+ xe. It works and looks great.

jjmd · Nov 13, 2003, 01:09 PM

Has anybody seen one for sale and how much it is. I would like to try it and cant find were they are sold.

Thanks

TonyMonTana · Nov 13, 2003, 01:24 PM

Oblivious, if opencase cooling works best for you then you must of had verybad cooling to start with to feel the need to open your case.
A case with good airflow and correct fan placment will always beat opencase, and think of all that dust getting in your case, also when your ambient temp gets high (in winter with heating on) your comp will still get very hot.
Spend 30pound on fans and close your case, think of the years your knocking of your rig.

Tony.

jjmd · Nov 13, 2003, 01:31 PM

Your case is open to the elemants anyways if you run fans. All this dose is deticate the air to the heatsink.

I really have no cooling problems, just looking for better way of cooling, Beside going water cooled!

By the way Tony look @ my sig, i have 8 Volcano @ 84 cfms each

Nowthats cooling 672 CFMS total. May sound like a plane but what the heck

Logla · Nov 13, 2003, 01:35 PM

I have a coolermaster heatpipe HSF on my P4. i've been getting some low low temps just on air so tried a thermal probe under the CPU this weekend. I am astounded by the thermal performance - put it this way, the machine idles at 21 degrees celcius and gets to about 35 under full load. These readings are at a failed attempt at lapping the base so If I can get that done properly then I should see sub 20 degrees.

Al_Vampyre · Nov 13, 2003, 01:59 PM

I saw a review of this somewhere and they weren't too impressed...I'll see if I can dig it up!

jjmd · Nov 13, 2003, 02:03 PM

heres a place that sales it only 29 bucks.

http://www.pccasegear.com/prod1006.htm

or even better 18.95

http://www.casecooler.com/suovairdu.html

or 15.95

http://www.jab-tech.com/catalog/prod...kit__Blue.html

Well for 16 bucks it might be worth tring

jjmd · Nov 13, 2003, 02:05 PM

Hey al try and find the review that would help alot. Thanks

~~craig588~~ · Nov 13, 2003, 02:31 PM

The easy was to great cooling!

The_Neon_Cowboy · Nov 13, 2003, 02:56 PM

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Originally posted by craig588

The easy was to great cooling!

i start coughing just looking @ your dust man

Oblivious · Nov 13, 2003, 03:02 PM

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Originally posted by TonyMonTana
Oblivious, if opencase cooling works best for you then you must of had verybad cooling to start with to feel the need to open your case.
A case with good airflow and correct fan placment will always beat opencase, and think of all that dust getting in your case, also when your ambient temp gets high (in winter with heating on) your comp will still get very hot.
Spend 30pound on fans and close your case, think of the years your knocking of your rig.

Tony.

No way man! In my experience:

Fans can only approach what open case in terms of performance. Put it this way: in a closed case environment you have room air and case air. The case air heats up because of heat produced by your pc. The fans you install in your case try to mix the case air and the cooler room air in an attempt to lower the temperature inside your case to room air temperature. But the process is not perfect so the air temperature inside the case will always higher then the room air temperature.

When you run a computer open-case there is only one body of air (There is nothing impeding the free flow of air to and from your computer components). The "case" air temperature is equal to the room air temperature. Open-case beats fans in performance - no contest.

Dust? Well whtas the difference between a fan cooled and an open case computer? There is none- both of these setups circulate dirty air around parts and the dust settles on the parts. Thats that. That is unless you add filters to your fan cooled system. But look for some pics around these forums and tell me how many fan filters can you spot?

As for ambient temperature, hoo-boy. It's not like fans magically cool the air going into your PC. An open case PC and a fan cooled PC will both be adversely affected by rising ambient temps. But the same argument applies: an open case PC's "case" temp will be at ambient while a fan cooled PC's temps will be higher than ambient. Open case is still the winner here.

So whats the deal?

In terms of dust - compare a pair of 1 year old computers, an open-case and a fan cooled, in terms of the amount of dust that has collected. I can't tell the difference. Can you?

This is pretty silly IMO when you first put effort into sealing an environment and then again put effort into unsealing it. When you run a computer open case there is only one body of air and as a result you get improved cooling performance. So why do we need cases anyway? To protect against coffee spills? No thanks I'll pass....

I'll keep my 30quid and I will enjoy sitting next to my fast, quiet, clean, long lasting, open case computer.

P.S. - For the record I switched to open case from 2 Delta 80mm 85CFM fans working as case fans.
P.P.S - This reply has been influenced by rage. Thank you for insulting my computer hardware and my computer skills.

studbagel9 · Nov 13, 2003, 03:37 PM

I am running with one 120 mm, and 6 80 mm fans in my computer. It's not the quietest thing in the world, but my cpu never goes above 35*c under load, and idle my sys temp is the room temp, about 23* c

jjmd · Nov 13, 2003, 04:36 PM

The posts u get from just one question "LOL"

Judas · Nov 14, 2003, 09:23 AM

i have an ambient room temp of around 19*C right now... opening my case....... actually puts my temps up another 5*C... (OCed Barton 2500+ ).......

Al_Vampyre · Nov 14, 2003, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oblivious
No way man! In my experience:

Fans can only approach what open case in terms of performance. Put it this way: in a closed case environment you have room air and case air. The case air heats up because of heat produced by your pc. The fans you install in your case try to mix the case air and the cooler room air in an attempt to lower the temperature inside your case to room air temperature. But the process is not perfect so the air temperature inside the case will always higher then the room air temperature.

When you run a computer open-case there is only one body of air (There is nothing impeding the free flow of air to and from your computer components). The "case" air temperature is equal to the room air temperature. Open-case beats fans in performance - no contest.

Dust? Well whtas the difference between a fan cooled and an open case computer? There is none- both of these setups circulate dirty air around parts and the dust settles on the parts. Thats that. That is unless you add filters to your fan cooled system. But look for some pics around these forums and tell me how many fan filters can you spot?

As for ambient temperature, hoo-boy. It's not like fans magically cool the air going into your PC. An open case PC and a fan cooled PC will both be adversely affected by rising ambient temps. But the same argument applies: an open case PC's "case" temp will be at ambient while a fan cooled PC's temps will be higher than ambient. Open case is still the winner here.

So whats the deal?

In terms of dust - compare a pair of 1 year old computers, an open-case and a fan cooled, in terms of the amount of dust that has collected. I can't tell the difference. Can you?

This is pretty silly IMO when you first put effort into sealing an environment and then again put effort into unsealing it. When you run a computer open case there is only one body of air and as a result you get improved cooling performance. So why do we need cases anyway? To protect against coffee spills? No thanks I'll pass....

I'll keep my 30quid and I will enjoy sitting next to my fast, quiet, clean, long lasting, open case computer.

P.S. - For the record I switched to open case from 2 Delta 80mm 85CFM fans working as case fans.
P.P.S - This reply has been influenced by rage. Thank you for insulting my computer hardware and my computer skills.

Thats all very well but you seem to have forgotten the effect that the air (ie fanned in and fanned out) being in movement has as that adds to the cooling ability of the air...if it didn't we'ed all just be using passive heatsinks and no fans!

Judas · Nov 14, 2003, 10:03 AM

run a car without a fan for a bit........ a a small very easily heated body of air.... moving with a current..... will produce better results then a large body that has some very small changes in drift.... will not produce much of any good results...... When you heat something up...the majority of the air around it only gets hotter.... moving it is the key..... If your computer doesn't have a neat...or doesn't produce heat like some of ours do.. then none of what i or anyone else says.... means anything...

~~DriveEuro~~ · Nov 14, 2003, 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by craig588

The easy was to great cooling!

And the easy way to clumps and handfuls of dust all over......

krazy1 · Nov 14, 2003, 01:35 PM

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Originally posted by DriveEuro
And the easy way to clumps and handfuls of dust all over......

Yea, I can see the dust on there now.. look at the IDE cable.. it is brown....

Same around the CPU....