[GigaWatt]

Now this discussion first started in the hadware related discussion section (hahaha ), but i think it's more apropriate to put it in here .

so, the title sasy it all, does your lack (or incresement ) of alchoholl in you blood improove or reduce you motor and concentration skills.

now here is my opinion on this subject:

1) depends on what i have been drinking, and if i have mixed different types of alchohol, for example, beer with wine, or beer with cognac... any kind of light alchololic beverage with something a little bit stronger. even if this is in a 10:1 ratio (10 cans of beer, 1 glass of wine, cognac, vodka...), this tends to turn out as a disaster, i would never drive under these surcumstances, my vision is blurry, my tung is in knots, can't keep talking strait, mispronouncing words... some people even tend to get agressive, but i guess that varies from person to person. i don't get agresive under any kind of alcholocolic beverage, i'm a total pacifist when i'm drunk, hahahaha .

2) if you have been drinking (a lot, and i mean a LOT...) of beer, like 10 cans of 0.5 leters (about 5% alcohol concentration in each, i think that's the european standard), that is also a state in which i would never drive... or do anything related to high precision work. beer has lots of vitamin B6, so that tends to reduce you blood preasure and your heart rate beat, i.e. tends to calm you down and make you sleepy. also, beer is a diuretic, so it intends to reduce your body temperature too (why do you think people drink beer mosly in the summer ). definetly not a good idea to drink beer in the winter, might freeze to detah... or catch a cold... .

3) wine is somewhere in between light and strong alchoholic beverages, so if i haven't been drinking a lot if wine (let's say... 5 or 6 glasses of 0.2 leters, 11% to about 14% alcohol concentration in ecah of them), i would drive under those circumstances. i feel kinda light headed, but i'm aware that i'm a little drunk, so i tend to keep my concentration up and NEVER drive over 60km/h (about 45mph), so guess that makes things even safer when i'm drunk, than when i'm sober. when i'm sober, i never drive that slow, and never pay that much attention on the road.

4) now here is the strong alcoholic bevrage section. i usually don't drink strong alcoholic beverages (except for cognac... god i love that stuff ), but when i do, if i've drank too much (2 or 3 glasses of 0.2 leters), i never get behind the wheel, even if would have came to the bar (or a party, whatever...) with my own car. i usually just let it stay there till the next day when i'm sober, and then pick it up from where ever it is i left it ... if i can remeber, hahahaha . i let some else, more sober than me drive me home.

now, these are all my opinions, i tend to drink a lot, especially wine (once a frined of mine and i drank aboout 11 leters of wine in about 7 or 8 hours... i think ), so keep in mind that the level of alcohol i your blood at which you stop acting normaly, varies from person to person. if you drink a lot, you tend to get used to the alcohol (the beverage) you have been drinking and you can drink even more and not get the same effect as the first time you've tried it. if you don't drink a lot, or don't drink at all, then even one beer could be a disaster.

now these are my views on the usage of alcohol and (mostly...) driving skills. now rememer, i never mentioned getting pulled over by the police as a possible secnario. that's a whole different subjest. i'm just stating my opinion on drinking and driving...

what's your opinion?

PS: sorry for the bad spelling in the title

[Judas]

in scientific experiements in which they focus on specific parts of the brain and how different people are effected different based on the type and amounts they have drank, it's been stated several times.. although majority refuse to consider it even remotely possible, that some peoples specific pathways are sevearly hindered whiles others are made clearer. How is this possible? Depends on the chemistry and the person frame of mind.

The situation where someone is better able to for example... play the piano, talk more fleuntly, even do complex math equations are NOT unheard of, but it's rather slim pickings.. if i recall the "statistical" reference using i beleive it was 300 random people, only 5% give or take were able to do general specific tasks better.


I'm not saying i'd suggest anyone to grab a drink and attempt to drive drunk.... i don't even chance it myself even though i'm not sure what would happen. I'd rather not test..

But drinking has had a load lifting result for me.

[GigaWatt]

Originally Posted by Judas

I'm not saying i'd suggest anyone to grab a drink and attempt to drive drunk.... i don't even chance it myself even though i'm not sure what would happen. I'd rather not test..

But drinking has had a load lifting result for me.

whell that's what i was saying, it doesn't have the same effect on everybody, somebody is agrivated, somebody gets agressive, mad, sad, whatever... somebody just does things better when he or she drinks alcohol, so as i said it varies form person to person, althow, you are right Judas, most of the people i know are not verry good at anything when they are drunk.

as Judas wrote, in the end, we all drink to get a load off...

PS: is it spelled "acohol" or "alchocol"? never could remeber that one

[CDsDontBurn]

i don't drink much, so just a small amount of whatever i drink will get me a slight buzz or lightheaded feeling.

when i get hammered though, i'm a happy drunk. i can sit there and just see something doing its ordinary task that i've seen it do over and over again and just bust up laughing at it for no good reason.

as for increased motor skills, i'd say no. at least not while crunked. if enough to be light headed or buzzed, then perhaps.

and btw, it's spelled "alcohol"

[Callandor]

I've quit drinking but my motor skills gt boosted slightly, though there was a delicate balance and if I drank too much/exceeded this sweet spot, I ended up having the usual adverse side-effects (quick to anger, slow to move, stumbling, shaky on my feet etc), the boost was especially great if there was someone important in the room I had to impress/pretend I wasn't drunk for like my dad. I'm sure that happens/happened to alot of people. I was a quiet drunk.

[GigaWatt]

Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

when i get hammered though, i'm a happy drunk. i can sit there and just see something doing its ordinary task that i've seen it do over and over again and just bust up laughing at it for no good reason.

i do that wnen i'm stoned, not drunk, hahahaha .

as for the increased motor skills, i agree, if you are stone drunk, then the motor skills definetly go down the drain... althow with a friend of mine, who plays the guitar, we had a concert (i played the keboards and the electronics), kinda of freestyle electro/jazz/noise/metal thing... i don't know how to describe the music, it's pritty compliacted , hahaha. aanyway, he was dead drunk, couldnt even hold the guitar in his hands, in most parts of the songs he was totlay out of tune, missing cords, cant stand stright, but on this one part, WOW, he totlay blew my mind off, he had to do a solo, so he started playing, ... and i was like "is this the same guy...", best solo he ever did in his whole life (or atleast the best one of him i've heard... so far).

but the rule still stands, if he was holding a wheel instead of a guitar, i bet he would be rammed up in a wall of a building... or something, good thing he wasn't

[Falstaff]

booze and boxing dont got together, ask anyone thrown out of a bar.
booze and sex dont go together, ask anyone who woke up with an ugly stranger in their bed.
booze and computers dont go together, ask anyone that woke up the next day with an email from their former superviser that said "f*&k you too, your fired!!"
booze and driving? dont even go there.
booze really enhances absolutely nothing in my book..
but then I dont drink anymore.
booze seperates a person into two people
one that wakes up and regrets and one that goes to bed drunk.

[Callandor]

Originally Posted by Falstaff

booze seperates a person into two people
one that wakes up and regrets and one that goes to bed drunk.

Lol, don't forget the one who gets sick and pukes all over the place.

[Falstaff]

Originally Posted by Callandor

Lol, don't forget the one who gets sick and pukes all over the place.

indeed..
but that might be considered an "out of bowel" experience

[CDsDontBurn]

Originally Posted by Falstaff

booze and sex dont go together, ask anyone who woke up with an ugly stranger in their bed.

that's not true. of course, provided you have drunken sex with your significant other.

[Falstaff]

Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

that's not true. of course, provided you have drunken sex with your significant other.

yeah..
till they crap themselves or throw up..
are you sure thats a good idea?

[GigaWatt]

Originally Posted by Falstaff

one that wakes up and regrets and one that goes to bed drunk.

isn't that the sweetest thing , you go to bed relaxed and all fuzzy, wake up the next day and regreat you where born, hahahahha

[Falstaff]

Originally Posted by GigaWatt

isn't that the sweetest thing , you go to bed relaxed and all fuzzy, wake up the next day and regreat you where born, hahahahha

of course um....er...
ummm
thats never happened to me you know...
I am worried about poor Mousey, his lotheric adventures might get him into to trouble on just a bit of cold medicine.

[[hobo]eclipse]

ya we can't have mousey landing on his head while konging or get into any of that other business you descibed up there. (experiance? ) i think excessive amounts of beer is sloppy, especially 2 days in a row, but i have also had my times of both heightened awareness and the depressive reaction of alcohol, beer, wine, and liquor. the latter more so though.

[GigaWatt]

Originally Posted by Falstaff

of course um....er...
ummm
thats never happened to me you know...

i was talking about the headaces, and the worling in bed all day thing, and the "i'm so tired" thing too...

i've never tried cold medicine before, is it really hallycinogenic?

[Callandor]

Yeah, I was a wino before I quit drinkin' and I'll have to say wine is a much more refined experience than all of them, when I was drunk on wine I'd always laugh and tell jokes like they did in days of old, wonder why people stopped drinkin' wine and started with beer, I guess that's what they call progression.

But hobo, liquor > beer for concentration, lmfaopml!!!

[GigaWatt]

i still do drink a lot if wine (not the linux kind, hahahahaha ), but less in quantity and more in quality, also, i do drink but more sporadicly nowerdays, have to be more "mature" and "grown up" as my parrents like to put it... , what the hell do those two words mean anyway, i mean... what, if you are all grown up and mature you can't drink? whell in that case, i don't wanna grow up, hahahahaha

[Falstaff]

No more booze for me, it is the ultimate solvent you know..
it dissolves grease
it dissolves some stains
it dissolves paint
it dissolves money
it dissoolves marriages
it dissolves bank accounts
it is an impressive solvent, poison and drug.

[GigaWatt]

whell, think of it as you like, but i think that cola does more damage tha booze, hahahahaha , for starters it makes you fat... whell so does booze, but not that fat .

oh, how about this, you ever seen this, a guy walks in McDonalds and orders two large fries and four hamburgers with... get this... a diet cola, hahahahahaha