Which is safer

insename · Jun 4, 2007, 08:50 PM

This is an awkard question considering what i'm comparing but which of the two would be safer accounting for human error (assuming that the driver is not wreckless).

a 3000gt vr4
or a corolla

I would assume that since the vr4 is much heavier and has better handling that it is safer but it has a lot of power and potential for deadly accidents...

The corolla is around six years newer and is not a likely canidate for speeding but is a very light and has a relatively shorter chasis decreasing the impact time should it be involved in a crash..

Any comments?

MrSpock2002 · Jun 4, 2007, 09:15 PM

I say just put yourself into a nice big rubber ball... Can't get much safer then that.

Randomletters · Jun 4, 2007, 09:15 PM

Corolla because of the power difference your less likely to drive more spirited which means you couldnt really compare the two in same speed accidents. If you really want a 3000gt get an Base/SL Model, Non turbo 4000lb = slow slow slow. But atleast youll be combing the low speed from the corolla and the tank like aspects of the 3000gt

MrSpock2002 · Jun 4, 2007, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Randomletters

Corolla because of the power difference your less likely to drive more spirited which means you couldnt really compare the two in same speed accidents. If you really want a 3000gt get an SL, Non turbo 4000lb = slow slow slow. But atleast youll be combing the low speed from the corolla and the tank like aspects of the 3000gt

What's wrong with a rubber ball?

Randomletters · Jun 4, 2007, 09:20 PM

Cant pick up chicks in a Rubber Ball.

MrSpock2002 · Jun 4, 2007, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Randomletters

Cant pick up chicks in a Rubber Ball.

Mine's modified with pheramone enhancers

insename · Jun 4, 2007, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randomletters

Corolla because of the power difference your less likely to drive more spirited which means you couldnt really compare the two in same speed accidents. If you really want a 3000gt get an Base/SL Model, Non turbo 4000lb = slow slow slow. But atleast youll be combing the low speed from the corolla and the tank like aspects of the 3000gt

true but what of other drivers? when it's some1 else's fault... then i'd think you're screwed in the corolla...

Dark Lord · Jun 4, 2007, 10:08 PM

if your really worried about your safety that much, just go buy an old 1960s caddy. damn things are built like a tank.

MrSpock2002 · Jun 4, 2007, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord

if your really worried about your safety that much, just go buy an old 1960s caddy. damn things are built like a tank.

Or a rubber ball...

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jun 5, 2007, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord

if your really worried about your safety that much, just go buy an old 1960s caddy. damn things are built like a tank.

I was gonna say that exact add in my home town a guy bought
an army surplus tank. now if only it where street legal LOL.

My late grandfather on my mothers side drive one of those
60's Cadillacs and their freaking loaded out in steel and huge!
like driveing u-boat LOL ...

now andays everythings stuff like fiber glass and alloys

BlueMak · Jun 5, 2007, 02:36 AM

Those "tanks" are not safer for the driver. If you hit anything at high speed, your car might survive but you won't. All the impact energy goes to your body, you=dead.
There is a reason that the safest cars are so easily destroyed on impact.

Dyre Straits · Jun 5, 2007, 03:54 AM

When my older daughter was just starting out driving, I got her a 70-something Chevrolet Impala. I wanted her to be in something that had plenty of metal and close to being bigger than whatever might collide with the car.

It wasn't very long before it proved its worth.

She made a left turn into a shopping center -- at the direction of a stopped driver facing her -- and drove into the path of another driver in the opposing outer lane.

Both of my daughters were in the Impala and neither one was hurt. Just shook up and very sorry to have wrecked the car.

As for which of the two cars is safer as asked by the OP: I wish I could tell you for sure. But, if you have any tendency to want to exceed the speed limit and have a hard time resisting, I'd get the slower vehicle. BUT, keep in mind, usually the vehicle with the FASTER speed in a collision will normally keep the occupants from greater injury than those in the SLOWER vehicle.

If it were my decision, I'd get the one that costs less.

Dyre Straits · Jun 5, 2007, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by insename

This is an awkard question considering what i'm comparing but which of the two would be safer accounting for human error (assuming that the driver is not wreckless).

a 3000gt vr4
or a corolla

I would assume that since the vr4 is much heavier and has better handling that it is safer but it has a lot of power and potential for deadly accidents...

The corolla is around six years newer and is not a likely canidate for speeding but is a very light and has a relatively shorter chasis decreasing the impact time should it be involved in a crash..

Any comments?

How about seeing how the 'experts' rate the cars?

http://autos.msn.com/home/safety_ratings.aspx

Randomletters · Jun 5, 2007, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by insename

true but what of other drivers? when it's some1 else's fault... then i'd think you're screwed in the corolla...

Yes there are going to be variables in every situation. Your better off staying indoors ( In that rubber Ball )

insename · Jun 5, 2007, 02:49 PM

well, i don't really exceed the speed limit; i like accelerating and feeling the power though... and yeah.. i've seen clips of those 60's cars bounce off walls.... that impact is enough to kill just about anyone... thats why racecars turn to dust when they collide..

thanks for the input though... i think i'll get a 3000gt vr4 any other advice in regards to safety/tuning/driving/overall?

**Vikingod** · Jun 5, 2007, 03:16 PM

I'd go with the toyota. They are known to be safe vehicles all around. I guess a good way to look at it is like this.... do you ever know anyone who bought a a 3000gt vr4 for its safty features? Nope, probably not. Most likely because its a decent performer at the price and it looks pretty cool.

If saftey is your main concern, the Corolla is your best bet, especially concidering its much newer (probably another reason its the way to go, five years in the life of a car is an eternity).

insename · Jun 5, 2007, 03:24 PM

well the corolla's main pull isn't safety either.. the way i see it, the corolla could easily become airborne... the 3000gt was sold at approx 3x the price of the corolla when new (i assume it has slightly more expensive parts). And five years is quite a while but the corolla doesn't get as many improvements with each model. The 3000gt was one of the first hardtop convertibles which says to me that it's parts are at least new at the time whereas with the corolla, it's a budget car, it's parts are budget. Someone correct me if i'm wrong, i don't know a lot about cars and derived my conclusions based on logic.

insename · Jun 5, 2007, 03:45 PM

well i was right...

crash test results:

3000gt vr4 = 5 http://consumerguideauto.howstuffwor...i-3000gt-4.htm

corolla = 4 http://consumerguideauto.howstuffwor...-corolla-3.htm

**Vikingod** · Jun 5, 2007, 03:46 PM

Airborne? What exactly do you plan on doing with it!?!

The price of the 3000gt has a lot more to do with marketing and availability than it does with quality as well.

Look man, its pretty obvious you want the 3000gt, for whatever reason, so just go with that.

insename · Jun 5, 2007, 03:48 PM

lmao... yeah, i was just a little skeptical of the safety... i feel better now though... thanks

**Vikingod** · Jun 5, 2007, 03:57 PM

Oh, I did notice this though... http://consumerguideauto.howstuffwor...i-3000gt-2.htm

Make sure if you do get the car, that the recalls/reliability issues have been addressed. I didn't notice anything for the Corolla, which could mean the issues didn't apply.

insename · Jun 5, 2007, 04:09 PM

yeah i noticed that too... i don't think it's too serious though, the only thing that applies would be the fuel pump...

Dark Lord · Jun 5, 2007, 04:26 PM

1969 corvette - Auxiliary Hard top, AKA removeable hard top.

so no, your 3000gt is not one of the first cars with a hardtop convertable.

personaly, safty is the least of my concerns when looking at a car. hell, my vette is a deathtrap on wheels. ive got more trust in the steering column stopping me in an accident, then the seat belts stoping me.

Judas · Jun 5, 2007, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueMak

Those "tanks" are not safer for the driver. If you hit anything at high speed, your car might survive but you won't. All the impact energy goes to your body, you=dead.
There is a reason that the safest cars are so easily destroyed on impact.

only if you hit a solid brick wall that's 5 feet thick. then your dead yes...

The problem with older cars is that