Must see guitar video...

Falstaff · Aug 20, 2006, 08:20 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIrwCTXPTdc

lest we forget..LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO9_J...related&search=

swimtech · Aug 20, 2006, 09:06 PM

The first one

, effortless...

Falstaff · Aug 20, 2006, 10:24 PM

Pretty dang stuff huh...
the second one was pretty close to Satriani so what the hey...

SFOSOK · Aug 21, 2006, 01:59 AM

Wish I would have been lucky enough to start playing guitar when I was four!

pr0digal jenius · Aug 21, 2006, 02:04 AM

...i can do that

***Zardon*** · Aug 21, 2006, 02:09 AM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fi7SRY5BU...=adam%20fulara

pr0digal jenius · Aug 21, 2006, 02:37 AM

Kirk Hammet is still one of my favorites aside from the obvious Satriani and Clapton

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...&q=kirk+hammet

***Zardon*** · Aug 21, 2006, 02:50 AM

I gotta say, I always found Kirk Hammett decidedly average with his compositions and direction - his playing was always rather uninspiring to me as well. technically he is fast enough and satriani certainly taught him well, but he never did anything to make me sit up and say "wow!"- also he uses way too much distortion. Just a personal opinion of course, I tend to go for more melodic and creative players.

SFOSOK · Aug 21, 2006, 06:34 AM

Early Metallica solos are awesome. You just have to like it. I really like his solos because it adds to the band. Satriani, Clapton, Vai, and all the other solo guitarist music is mainly about them and their one guitar.

If Hammett played like Satriani does they would have kicked him out of the band for trying to steal the show instead making a good song with the different elements of music. I tihnk there is probably a time where a guitarist decides wether to be part of a band or go on his own. Your restricted in a band yeah, but to a lot of guitarists its worth it.

Also just because they don't play doesn't mean they can't, depends what the music requires though.

Falstaff · Aug 21, 2006, 08:14 AM

I find Metallica boring...the music is certainly played often enough and we have a radio station that plays it 24 hours a day on Monday..(that gets real old). Very popular among the older meth users I suppose..LOL. Hammett is exceptional in terms of how creative he is with just 5 chords..

I find the older guitar work more satisfying and worthy of my interest..

Surfin with Aliens - Satriani
Blood of Emeralds - Gary Moore
Run like Hell - David Gilmour
Star Spangled Banner - Hendrix

I dont think I have to say much more but I found TOOL and GODSMACK worth a listen now and then.. but for Christs sake there seems to be a formula for every damn song on the radio now..
That is what makes individual efforts so much more rewarding IMO.

pr0digal jenius · Aug 21, 2006, 10:06 AM

hammet does go off the deep end sometimes with the FX pedals and the wa wa's and the random thrashing....but honestly, having seen him live....he's got something that msot guitarists never have....and yet i couldn't tell you what it is.

And no, I've never seen clapton live...mom made me give those tickets away [$180 floor level tickets] because it was a school night back in like, 9th grade

Falstaff · Aug 21, 2006, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius

hammet does go off the deep end sometimes with the FX pedals and the wa wa's and the random thrashing....but honestly, having seen him live....he's got something that msot guitarists never have....and yet i couldn't tell you what it is.

And no, I've never seen clapton live...mom made me give those tickets away [$180 floor level tickets] because it was a school night back in like, 9th grade

water under the bridge PJ..
you most likely would have met some sleazy girl, had great sex and went home with a hickey...now arent you glad you didnt go?

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Aug 21, 2006, 01:31 PM

this one was posted by zardon a while back... this is my favorite:

http://www.angelo.com/speed_lives_mab.wmv

insanely skilled

***Zardon*** · Aug 21, 2006, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFOSOK

Early Metallica solos are awesome. You just have to like it. I really like his solos because it adds to the band. Satriani, Clapton, Vai, and all the other solo guitarist music is mainly about them and their one guitar.

If Hammett played like Satriani does they would have kicked him out of the band for trying to steal the show instead making a good song with the different elements of music. I tihnk there is probably a time where a guitarist decides wether to be part of a band or go on his own. Your restricted in a band yeah, but to a lot of guitarists its worth it.
Also just because they don't play doesn't mean they can't, depends what the music requires though.

What you are saying in theory is fine although I think you are a little bit mixed up with a few things, one being that clapton was just a solo instrumentalist. he has played in quite a few bands such as cream and he also sings... the blues. hardly in anyway comparible to hammett. Hammetts style is riffing with a lot of nifty scale work, but its hardly in anyway playing that would induce an emotional response on the scale of claptons playing. My point earlier was not to state that he was restricted in anyway by playing in a band but that his really good work is very narrow and spans over a few albums. You certainly couldnt say that players like Mark Knopfler (dire straits), Dave Gilmour (Pink Floyd) or Gary Moore (Thin Lizzy) have been "restricted" by a band, they are capable of fitting into a band environment and producing some really memorable work. Flip side of the coin to that would be Steve Vai.... technically amazing, yet so incredibly indulgent, I could never see him fitting into a band. If you dont know what I mean, hunt out a whitesnake album with him on ii as well as dave lee roth's solo album. the singers hardly get a word in

Anyhow, I agree that some of hammett's earlier work is quite good, but I certainly wouldn't class him as an A list guitarist nor would I class anything he or metallica have put out since 2000 in anyway inspiring, original or creative. However ive noticed over the years that many americans are really quite obsessed with metallica and would defend all or most of their work as being class leading - whereas in europe, many people like them but feel they arent really quite as good as they are made out to be ... I feel their really good work spans a few albums, and a band like TOOL really blow them out of the water, both on a production and creative level. Truly great guitar playing to me, isnt just speed, it is about getting an emotional connection to the listener and creating something that will affect that person on some level, and that is where this debate ends up getting messy. everyone has a different viewpoint on that. some people like 14,000 notes a minute for the "wow" factor, and others just yearn for that magical bend or flurry of notes that can bring a tear to the eye because you know that the person playing it..... really feels it.

pr0digal jenius · Aug 21, 2006, 07:46 PM

metallica's stuff post S&M sucks in large part, yes.

And I still love the guitar solo from Freebird [lynard skynard]...in particular the recording they did at the Save The Fox Theater concert in atlanta

***Zardon*** · Aug 22, 2006, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius

metallica's stuff post S&M sucks in large part, yes.

And I still love the guitar solo from Freebird [lynard skynard]...in particular the recording they did at the Save The Fox Theater concert in atlanta

Yeah thats a brilliant solo !

Falstaff · Aug 22, 2006, 06:51 AM

Cant knock those southern boys...
I remember redneck rock and roll....
Lynrd Skynrd
.38 Special
ZZtop
Molly Hatchet
Charlie Daniels Band
Allman Brothers...
un-appreciated music now adays with these techno metal bands around...
I say take it back to the blues, remember the roots..
country - delta blues - rock..

I recently returned from Clovis New Mexico some of the first genuine American Rock records were recorded at a little tiny studio downtown. Modest beginnings tha fueled a desire for some real American Style Rock and Roll. Looking back on it now, I guess if I dont hear the roots somewhere in the music..i.e. Chet Atkins or Johnson or a ballad along with the guitar work I just turn the crap off..

What is any music today worth without a little melody or a ballad? Its just crap IMO.

Death this and Dragon that...who the F*&k cares if it all sounds the same..
I am way past the mope rock of the Cure and the thrashing angry crap from the garage bands...
When I hear Ted Nugent play "Great White Buffalo" it fills my heart with the same emotion that the Star Spangled Banner does, its not patriotism, but the music is inspiring!
This Gothic - Techno - Metal - Head Banging crap that our children may listien to fills a void perhaps in their lives, but before they practice self mutilation and swallow the chemicals that make them stay up all night and churn out angry crap they listen too, lets show them that someone dealt with it all over 25 or 30 years ago and wrote and played music that inspired us and gave us some sort of direction. Music with heart I guess I am saying.
As far as I am concerned what I have heard now adays is no different in terms of its angry sentiment and bullshit angst than what I heard during the Punk years..
Its time for new Rock and Roll...that embraces the past....
Otherwise we are doomed to repeat the Disco years...
May God help us all.....