[MIG-31]

Originally Posted by Zardon

here is a better pic than my crappy one taken in the garage in poor lighting.

I can't see the image!

[Zardon]

linking to an outside source, try pasting the url into your browser. it doesnt load that quick either

[MIG-31]

It's shows up now.... sweet.

[CDsDontBurn]

Originally Posted by Zardon

here is a better pic than my crappy one taken in the garage in poor lighting.

can't see the pic Z

oh, i do have a question though. has any bike manufacturer ever decided to put/experiment [with] a rotary engine in a bike? and, if a rotary engine in a car can hit 9.5k RPMs, i'm guessing in a bike it would be easily able to top 20k RPMs

[LuCifer]

lol Thats a pretty crazy Idea Cds.. but I liek it.. anyhow yeah i cant see the pic either!!

[MIG-31]

Just in case nobody else can see it..I'll host it via photobucket.. (it may of shrunk in detail a little).

[niceguyrichy]

edit: Thanks mig

[mainman]

May i say HOLLY F*CK!!!?

[Geminiwave]

Originally Posted by Zardon

Sounds like a right idiot. What he means by "sideways" engines is that BMW tend to use parallel twin engines or "boxer" engines. these are two cylinders - horizontally opposed which many sports bike riders find ugly looking - to see what I mean look on this page (see below). What however is more important is they are rock solid, (some of the BMW tourers easily have hit half a million miles and still going - also did you see the ewan mcgregor "long way round" show? in which he and a mate travelled the world on BMW 1150GS bikes? those had the twin I mention powering them). They also have a great characteristic and feel (imo).

http://www.promotor.nl/published/prm...r1200s.nl.html

However, BMW have released a new series of bikes which are inline 4's - a series of 4 cylinders mounted vertically which would be more to the traditional "japanese" style seen on hondas, yamahas, suzuki's etc.



This engine is making around 170bhp and is as powerful as anything the japanese have produced. This may seem confusing to someone who knows nothing about engines, however you will find certain people like specific engine design. Many people love the high and free revving inline 4s as they can hit 15,000rpm really easy and produce more power than a twin (whether its a BMW twin or ducati 90degree twin). However the flip side of the coin is that an inline four can (to some) be a bit on the bland side and a twin tends to have more character and can produce high amounts of torque.

I personally love all the engines above, even the aprilla based rotax 60 degree twins and can adapt to riding any. Some people however are pretty set in their ways and only buy a specific engine style. I have two bmws - one has the inline four in the picture above with a full race exhaust system from akraprovic, (making around 180bhp) the other is a 1200c boxer engine which produces around 122bhp. The ducati is a 90degree twin which produces around 125bhp with a full race system). All have different characteristics and feel vastly different when being riden, but I love them all!

Ahhh so basically my friend is a total snob and doesn't really know what he is talking about.

thats what I figured.

I really couldn't imagine BMW putting out something BAD.

[pr0digal jenius]

my guess, CDs, is that a rotary bike would do wierd things to the bikes balance, not to mention maintenance would be wicked



...you mazda boys and yer spinning engines

[Falstaff]

blast from the past..LOL

http://www.suzukicycles.org/RE5/RE5-Rotary.shtml

http://www.rotaryrecycle.net/W2000.asp

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/rotary-engine.htm

http://www.micapeak.com/winona/strange/omega.html

http://www.micapeak.com/winona/strange/wooler1.html

http://www.popularmechanics.com/auto...tml?page=2&c=y
(jet powered bike for Jay Leno)



Z needs this bike!! I mean to be a man of mystery you need the James Bond hardware.



or something like this!!

Now I know there is more to see in the lair of Z!

[Geminiwave]

rotory motorcycles are actually pretty good.

They dont mess with ballance at all.

[pr0digal jenius]

i still think if I were to buy a bike, it'd be one of THESE



Ducatti is beyond a doubt the lamborghini of motorcycles though....not necessarily the indisputable champion, but if you got one, people look, drool, give you their number, and want a ride.

[Zardon]

Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius

i still think if I were to buy a bike, it'd be one of THESE



Ducatti is beyond a doubt the lamborghini of motorcycles though....not necessarily the indisputable champion, but if you got one, people look, drool, give you their number, and want a ride.

A daytona 650????? OMG dude, that particular model is one of the most average bikes ive ever ridden with shoddy build quality and one of the poorest mid ranges with sub standard fuel injection, typical british crap (no offense to british bikes, the new 675 is pretty sweet for a triple). Stick to cars PJ!

and no Jeff im not going to even justify that last post with a response

[Yousaif]

Whoops just posted the same link Jeff did.

Nice bike Z. I'll still stick with 4 wheels under me.

[pr0digal jenius]

i've never ridden a bike in my life so I am in no way claiming expertice...I just think it looks absolutely amazing...ah well...guess triumph can't make bikes either [their cars are plagued by electrical issues and leaks]

[SFOSOK]

I may be lookin into gettin a bike in the coming years : )

[Zardon]

Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius

i've never ridden a bike in my life so I am in no way claiming expertice...I just think it looks absolutely amazing...ah well...guess triumph can't make bikes either [their cars are plagued by electrical issues and leaks]

Well maybe I sounded a bit harsh, I mean the earlier daytonas werent too bad but I rode a few and personally didnt rate them at all. the 650 was a POS IMO (although im sure many debout british buyers would disagree with me). The new daytona 675 is a good bike, its a triple 675cc to compete with the japanese 600c inline 4s and does very well as you have a bit of extra torque with the 75cc extra, but I seriously do have doubts about the build quality, my mate had a daytone 955 and the thing basically felt apart over one winter, although my mate is a lazy bastard and doesnt clean or maintain anything so that could partly explain for that........ still, one year? ill pass.

This is the Daytona 675 which is their newest model, with a new revision of the larger CC bikes appearing sooner rather than later.



As you can see from the above, triumph are really copying the japanese look by sharper, angular edges which is so in vogue in the UK atm (I think the UK rate no1 in europe for sports bike sales). You can probably see how design is going if you look at the one you liked - the 650 (650cc - yes they expanded it by 25cc to give it a bit more torque compared to the 600cc JAP inline 4's and it worked), which looked a lot fatter, heavier and basically bigger (this isnt a good thing for guys over 6ft as super sports bikes are getting smaller every bloody year).

If you get a bike PJ, as much as I love italian and german bikes, I recommend you stick to japanese for the first few years as you are pretty much guaranteed reliability and performance then you can maybe branch out a bit more and expand your horizons by riding some twins, singles or even triples. I personally have a soft spot for twins, as they have so much character (even if they lack the outright power of an inline 4). Of course if you are one of the strict "buy only USA" type americans, you could try a harley or a buell (I quite like a few of the harley powered buells, they are really weird looking, and quite unique with loads of character).

Whatever you buy just make sure you guys kit up right, get a good jacket, helmet and gloves. You can always replace a bike, but its harder to replace a set of teeth or a few fingers.

[Falstaff]

I remember the old Indian Police motorcycle with a sidecar my uncle Roodie would resurrect out the hay barn and fire up once in awhile, seemed to take ages and he would just drink himself pissed and ride around the hay bales until he hit something...We forgot about it and it lingered on until they tore down the still in the barn. then we found it. My cousin pushed it up the creek to where all the old machinery rusted away under the cottonwood tree, but remember the seat had metal springs that perched it up above the frame, and the rims were spoked! It has a big motor and belched out blue smoke once in awhile. After Roodie died well we just let it go and some fella from Missoula saw it from the road while he was speculating on property and I guess he stold it or bought depending on who you believe and it sits in a display somewhere back east. I found out my Uncle Roodie had allegedly stole that from a fella that was courtin his girlfriend when they were both young..LOL. I think that is what makes motorcycles interesting to me.
I mean honestly Allan, I am sure you have some memories with your motorcycle that wont ever be forgotten..huh...
Machines become animated if I own them for awhile, especially the ones with character.


I am familiar with the Burt Monro story, and I sure like Anthony Hopkins, shoot a movie I havent seen. LOL I would love to see it myself, thanx for the tip Z...

[pr0digal jenius]

heh, i'll be sticking to 4 wheels for the forseeable future.


However Allan, I'm curious as to what you think of the upcoming Kawasaki Ninja ZX-14R...or whatever gay name they'll give it over in Euro-land [ninja is such a cool name too]

[Zardon]

Originally Posted by Falstaff

I mean honestly Allan, I am sure you have some memories with your motorcycle that wont ever be forgotten..huh...
Machines become animated if I own them for awhile, especially the ones with character.

Well thats the thing, outright power doesnt always make the "best" motorbike. There is something undescribable about a bond you can make with a bike - and sometimes the ones with the biggest flaws can have the most character and riding them is special. did you see "the world fastest indian" jeff? thats an amazing film.

[Zardon]

Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius

heh, i'll be sticking to 4 wheels for the forseeable future.


However Allan, I'm curious as to what you think of the upcoming Kawasaki Ninja ZX-14R...or whatever gay name they'll give it over in Euro-land [ninja is such a cool name too]

Its called the Kawasaki ZZR1400 and im one of the few people in Ireland who had a test drive on one. its a beast of a bike



197bhp (although its nearer to 170bhp at the wheel) - and accelerates like a mofo, although I think its slower from 0-60 than the BMW K1200S - Kawasaki actually deliberately made it a bit flat under 5000rpm. Nice bike but I really have gotten so used to shaft drive on those big hypersonic tourer jobs. Chains are fine on pure sports bikes but big tourers? all the miles and maintaining and adjusting chains is a pain in the ass.

[Chaos]

personally i feel much safer driving one of these

[Zardon]

yeah if I wasnt an acceleration junkie and was driving in a straight line all the time id buy one myself

[Falstaff]

http://www.worldsfastestindian.com/WFI.html

Freaking awesome movie....I am gonna head to the rental store..

Thanx Allan..

[Zardon]

Originally Posted by Falstaff

http://www.worldsfastestindian.com/WFI.html

Freaking awesome movie....I am gonna head to the rental store..

Thanx Allan..

great real life story of one mans adventure - really fascinating and a good portrayal by anthony hopkins, even if he had a dodgy accent in it

[Falstaff]

Yeah...Anthony is impressive alright....but I would cut him a sprout..
cant be worse than Keanu Reeves and his bullshit english accent in Dracula..LOL

[Zardon]

Originally Posted by Falstaff

Yeah...Anthony is impressive alright....but I would cut him a sprout..
cant be worse than Keanu Reeves and his bullshit english accent in Dracula..LOL

I still think the best was Sean Connery as the russian submarine commander in RED OCTOBER. "hoots man, theres a haggis up me kilt laddy........"

[mainman]

Did Z just own PJ?

[niceguyrichy]

Originally Posted by Zardon

I still think the best was Sean Connery as the russian submarine commander in RED OCTOBER. "hoots man, theres a haggis up me kilt laddy........"

pretty bad, but not a patch on Mel Gibson in that movie

as a Scot it still makes me shudder to even think about