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Mar 3, 2006, 06:20 AM
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The Paranoid Cook
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Timeframe...
This is a silly topic but a guessing topic. Windows Xp was cracked within 2 hours of it's release. Which makes me laugh.
How long do you think it will take the hackers(crackers) to crack Windows Vista and kill all it's protection features?
Just guess times, no discussion of hacks, just time.
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Mar 3, 2006, 06:49 AM
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BANNED
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Why would it make you laugh? With (probably) millions of hackers/crackers around the world trying to crack microsoft's latest product, it is only logical that it gets cracked fairly easy and quickly
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Mar 3, 2006, 06:51 AM
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DriverHeaven Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Actually WinXP was cracked well before it was released; it was RTM August 24th and the DevilsOwn crack made its appearance almost instantly. Windows XP showed up in stores late September - early October.
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Mar 3, 2006, 06:53 AM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
Join Date: Jul 2004
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You can crack ANYTHING that exists. No program I know of can't be cracked. From MAC to PC anything can be...
And it's wrong.
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Mar 3, 2006, 06:57 AM
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The Paranoid Cook
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: New Jersey
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of course it's wrong, no doubt. but really we are sort of helpless to stop it in anyway. People like to brake rules, it's unfortunate but true. I just laugh because people dedicate there lives to that sort of thing,. "i will do it first! HA!"
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Mar 3, 2006, 08:34 AM
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Delete Me
Join Date: Mar 2004
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XP was cracked since the release candidate and widely available in "final" form [pro corporate] about a month prior to release.
Vista will be the same way...statistically speaking it's inevitable. You charge that much for a program that necessary to that many people....and the timeframe for a "crack" drops exponentially.
64 bit code may sow things down a bit due to the potential for more cypher strength, and if WinFS ships, it may take longer due to learning a new file system [the NT Kernel was on revision 4 or 5 when XP hit]...also all these rumors of a redesigned registry could complicate things a lot as many of the cracks for XP are registry based through spoofed dynamic link libraries and server calls.
Anyways, that's way more then anyone wanted to know I'm sure...but cracks interest me, as I program, so i tend to take them apart and look at HOW they work more then msot people.
I'd say there will be a crack by RTM, but it will be half assed and clunky, and easily hacked out by M$ with a service pack like the original XP cracks were. I'd also venture that by the first service pack there will be a "proper" crack that can't be nixed without b0rking windows or reprogramming the WPA and making EVERYONE re-register [kinda like WGA, but a patch, not an add-on]
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Mar 3, 2006, 09:27 AM
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gargouille
Join Date: Jun 2002
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I thought devilsown simply published a "corp" serial number stolen from Dell... no actual cracking. The FCKGW one that was banned with SP1.
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Mar 3, 2006, 09:31 AM
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Delete Me
Join Date: Mar 2004
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originally, yes, but later a .ZIP file containing the corporate licensing files so that you could patch XP pro to XP pro Corporate came around too, but that may not have been him, I forget who did that one.
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Mar 4, 2006, 06:36 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2004
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Originally Posted by merlinxi
of course it's wrong, no doubt. but really we are sort of helpless to stop it in anyway. People like to brake rules, it's unfortunate but true. I just laugh because people dedicate there lives to that sort of thing,. "i will do it first! HA!"
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I thought you were making fun of microsoft products
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