How many "pipelines" does an nVIDIA 6800ULTRA....

HawgsHead · Nov 8, 2004, 09:42 PM

run on?Is 16 the right answer?..The reason I ask this is I just got off of the phone woth a tech. at BFG.The reason I called was I needed to know how to correctly make 2 monitors work there 6800ULTRA card.In other words I wanted to switch from my CRT to my LCD without having to switch cables all the time.I knew the card would do this but I just didnt want to play with the bells & switches for 2 hours before I came upon the correct combination of settings.The tech. told me I needed some kind of switch to do this. I KNEW this was B.S.!!!So I fineally figured it out after 1 hour.Anyway,the tech. also told me that the 6800GT and the 6800ULTRA only ran on 8 pipelines.But the card has 16 pipelines and I could serch the net and figure out how to unblock the other 8.He said he could tell me but he would have to kill me after he told me.I know I read somewhere that these cards ran on 16 pipelines.Correct?

Nacht · Nov 8, 2004, 10:40 PM

lol....sounds like he was just fucking with you to me. why would they put all 16 in there and just use 8? just to help ati keep up?

HawgsHead · Nov 9, 2004, 12:05 AM

No man ,the guy was quite serious.He was just full-o-crap and didnt know what he was talking about if you ask me.But hey,I'm no expert.That's why I posted the pipelines question.I also failed to mention he said he had a 6800 ULTRA and the core was running at 1600MHz....??????I asked him if it was cooled with liquid nitrogen and he said "no,juat water cooling".EVERY TIME I have called BFG I have gotten great support.I guess they have a bad apple on there hands that's tring to impress someone.I was born at nite,but not last nite.

refraction · Nov 9, 2004, 03:04 AM

im sorry but nobody could be that thick, even the dumbest people i know with pcs know that they come with air cooling and not water cooling.

i think that bloke was just having a big joke with you!

MiDKnYtE · Nov 9, 2004, 01:51 PM

even with vaporphase cooling it would never get close to 1600. he must have been on LSD or something.

HawgsHead · Nov 9, 2004, 03:06 PM

I'm telling you people,the guy was as serious as a heart attack!He wasnt jerking my chain.I think he was bragging.But if you have to brag,you can at least make it believeable.

Shike · Nov 9, 2004, 04:45 PM

Yeah, the highest I've heard of on a 6800 Ultra was 550Mhz Vapo, and 1.25 on the memory if I'm right?

The guy cannot be serious that he didn't know the product. Email BFG and see what some other tech says. If he tells you 8 then scream...

***Zardon*** · Nov 9, 2004, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HawgsHead

Anyway,the tech. also told me that the 6800GT and the 6800ULTRA only ran on 8 pipelines.But the card has 16 pipelines and I could serch the net and figure out how to unblock the other 8.He said he could tell me but he would have to kill me after he told me.I know I read somewhere that these cards ran on 16 pipelines.Correct?

He sounds like he is only running on 8 pipelines himself. Sure you didnt ring reception by accident?

Seriously though, did you get his name?

HawgsHead · Nov 9, 2004, 08:53 PM

Yes,I got his name.But I dont drop people into the fat vat & let them fry unless they really screw with me or cost me $$$.I just thought it would be good for a laugh and I wasnt really sure how many pipelines the card ran on.I just wanted to be sure.The dude sure was an idiot though.He wont last long.

itchy5 · Nov 9, 2004, 09:46 PM

thats the funniest thing ive ever heared lololol the guy was on some sort of drugs :P any way hawgshead is your pc an ALX??? cause i was skrooing around on alienware website and i build that comp (for fun) and i sware it cost over 5grand. how much did you blow on that thing!

Shike · Nov 9, 2004, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by itchy5

thats the funniest thing ive ever heared lololol the guy was on some sort of drugs :P any way hawgshead is your pc an ALX??? cause i was skrooing around on alienware website and i build that comp (for fun) and i sware it cost over 5grand. how much did you blow on that thing!

He spent too much, considering you have to still upgrade after so long. I rather blow $2500 per 2 years then $5000 in one which seem foolish.

That's just my thoughts though.....

Nacht · Nov 9, 2004, 11:23 PM

You could build it for MUCH less if you just do it yourself.

HawgsHead · Nov 9, 2004, 11:30 PM

The machine has everything an ALX has except water cooling.I have a good friend at Alienware that does me some favors.And Shike,if I wanna spend $100,000 on a computer it's my business.I'm quite happy with it and that's all that matters.

Shike · Nov 9, 2004, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by HawgsHead

The machine has everything an ALX has except water cooling.I have a good friend at Alienware that does me some favors.And Shike,if I wanna spend $100,000 on a computer it's my business.I'm quite happy with it and that's all that matters.

No need to be all bitchy about it. I'm just saying that in 3 years you'll have to upgrade again anyway. ALX systems are too expensive for what they are, end of discussion they are not the fastest machines out there. Being the most expensive and not being the fastest is inexcusable...

I'd of course build my own, but frankly I'd suggest a Voodoo over an Alienware.

HawgsHead · Nov 9, 2004, 11:58 PM

I am truely not tring to be bitchy.I have just had so many people tell me what a damn fool I am to have Alienware build my equipment for me when I could build it cheeper.The truth is I pay MUCH less for my equipment than I could get it for from NewEgg. I pay ZERO for the labor and Alienware's cost for the parts.And they buy the parts by the thousand.My buddy does make me pay shipping though.So now that you know the WHOLE story am I such a fool?

itchy5 · Nov 10, 2004, 12:14 AM

you didn't answer my question, how much did you pay?!

Shike · Nov 10, 2004, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by itchy5

you didn't answer my question, how much did you pay?!

If it was over under $2500 I'd say you got an okay deal. If not I would say it was little more than I would have paid building it off the top of my head...then again I wouldn't go with a P4 EE since the FX-55 wastes it.

HawgsHead · Nov 10, 2004, 08:54 AM

Shike,Zardon has provided a place in these forums called the Flame Warzone where you can belittle me,my equipment,Alienware and even Intel.Why not take youre post's there?You can type & flame til youre fingers turn blue.

***Zardon*** · Nov 10, 2004, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Shike

then again I wouldn't go with a P4 EE since the FX-55 wastes it.

in gaming yes its faster. But I can certainly show you figures on both my FX55 and P4EE system in adobe photoshop which is quite the reverse. So I would say it depends on your requirements. Also for multitasking the EE is quite the better CPU.

itchy5 · Nov 10, 2004, 06:51 PM

Oh, one more question

You said it was air cooled if im not mistaken. How can a prescott P4 3.4EE run at 3.8 on air?

please, my 3.2e cant go over 3.33 on air (w/ arctic silver 5).

Unless you modded the case with a thermal duct i seriously doubt its running 3.8. Not tring to "flame" you or anything. I'm just curious.

HawgsHead · Nov 10, 2004, 06:57 PM

I dont have a Prescott.I have a Gallatin.And I can make it run at 3.9GHz.But at that speed it get's a bit too hot for me.

itchy5 · Nov 10, 2004, 08:07 PM

You really dont know much about computer hardware.
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduc...116-187&depa=1 is the only 3.4EE chip for LGA775 socket and is indeed a prescott.
So im sorry but who ever you got your comp from is wrong about the 3.8 overclock, and your wrong about Gallatin core since that core doesn't exist.

HawgsHead · Nov 10, 2004, 08:14 PM

I'm sorry.But you are wrong.And I really dont care what you think.

itchy5 · Nov 10, 2004, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by HawgsHead

I'm sorry.But you are wrong.And I really dont care what you think.

LOLOLOL if you think i'm wrong then lets see a link that has
core: Gallatin in it. Now im really wanting to know, if you are right i will never post on this forum

EDIT ZARDON: EE gallatin cores are available on slot 775 to alienware and some other high end manufacturers who cut deals with INTEL. the gallatin Slot 775 processors ARENT widely available to the public.

I have three of these processors - 1 800mhz version, 2 1066fsb versions all mine are engineering samples but as you can see from this UK site they do exist http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Intel_Pentium_4_LGA775.html

HawgsHead · Nov 10, 2004, 08:26 PM

My dad had an old saying that still holds true today"Put youre mind into motian before you put youre mouth into gear".I truely dont normally say things like this but you sir are an idiot!
Pushing Gallatin To Its Maximum : Intel’s 3.4 GHz Extreme Edition

Author : Chris Connolly Date : 5/5/2004

Intel launched three variants of the 3.4 GHz Pentium 4 in late March, the "Northwood" Pentium 4 3.4 GHz, the "Prescott" Pentium 4 3.4 GHz, and the "Gallatin" Pentium 4 3.4 GHz Extreme Edition. It's been over two months since all three of these products were launched, and up until today, we had only seen one of these chips in a final, shipping form.

The 3.4 GHz "Northwood" Pentium 4 processor is currently shipping, and has been since the day Intel launched the chip. The 3.4 GHz chip designed on the new 0.09 micron "Prescott" architecture is still missing in action and has yet to be seen on retail store shelves. The 3.4 GHz Extreme Edition sits in the middle - as it is just finally starting to trickle into the markets in very limited quantities. We've waited patiently as Intel again and again pushed back delivery dates on these processors. While never admitting to a delay, all of the partners we've spoken with have confirmed that these chips have gone through several unscheduled delays.

All fingers seem to be pointed as low processor yields as the culprit for the delay. While Intel has been able to crank out 3.2 GHz Extreme Edition processors by the truck load with seemingly little effort, cranking these chips up to 3.4 GHz apparently is not as easy. The Extreme Edition chips are fabbed off of a 0.13 micron manufacturing process, which appears to be hitting its limits in terms of clock speeds. While Intel has been able to produce "Northwood" Pentium 4 processors at 3.4 GHz on the same manufacturing process, the "Gallatin" core which is the heart of the Extreme Edition processor is an entirely different beast. The Gallatin core is a monstrously huge and complex core to design and manufacture, with over three times the amount of transistors compared to a standard Pentium 4. Maintaing signal integrity and getting high processor volumes with high-clock speeds with such a complex design is no easy task.

Rumors have swirled that Intel took the Gallatin core back to the drawing board a few months ago and added additional layers of metal to the design to help the chip produce better yields at higher clock speeds. As updating a core design and producing fresh materials (often called a new processor "spin") can take 2-3 months, this would seemingly fall in line with the low-yield rumors causing the 3.4 GHz EE delay. For all we know, Intel could have held off supplies on the 3.4 GHz EE chip until 3.2 GHz EE chip inventory was starting to become depleted. Honestly, we'll never know.

Nevertheless, Intel's top of the line Pentium 4 Extreme Edition 3.4 GHz is finally here, and while availability of the chips are scarce, if someone wants one of these chips, they can likely find one. Despite the… shall we say.. exorbitant price tag of this new processor, we've actually seen quite a lot of interest in this product. The 3.2 GHz Extreme Edition was a popular item for those looking for ultra-high-end gaming power, and the 3.4 GHz Extreme Edition is targeting at that same crowd.

HawgsHead · Nov 10, 2004, 08:33 PM

http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=p434ee&page=1&cookie%5Ftest=1. ...Here's the website.

itchy5 · Nov 10, 2004, 08:39 PM

you almost did it...you were so close

the gallatin core is for the brand new chip for 1066FSB Mobos that is 925XE. this new chip runs at 3.46 and is not compatable with your mobo and costs thousands. http://techreport.com/reviews/2004q4...6/index.x?pg=1
so ill use your own saying "Put youre mind into motian before you put youre mouth into gear".

(ill give you the cred for casue it did exist >:P lol)

EDIT ZARDON: 800mhz P4 EEs do exist in limited quantities, some hardware manufacturers made deals with intel and where able to sell systems around the CPUs.