chrashes in games

kona_dh · May 17, 2004, 11:26 AM

Hi....

I have a asus fx5600 128mb... i have had it i the shelf for some months... becouse it dosent work in games..... but now im tired of my gf2 gts 32mb... and i want my fx5600 to work so i search luck here....

so my problems is that the card dosent work in games... it works for like 20min then the computer just hangs up... i have tried whit driver cleaner but still the same problem...... it works fine in windows.... im using the latest shareware drivers.

hopefully someone can help me....

SaberZ · Jun 29, 2004, 03:55 PM

did you do a clean format?

what exactly is happening? Crashes in games after 20 minutes? Did you try different driver versions? How are the temperatures in the case? Anything close the AGP slot that might be obstructing airflow ect?

Could probably be the card itself is getting hot, some manufacturers apply Thermal Paste like a bird does their excrement to a car. Meaning it could be a splat uneven on the die.

Rogacz · Jul 21, 2004, 03:37 PM

I bet it`s a heat problem.

kona_dh · Aug 15, 2004, 04:10 AM

i tried to play whit the side open but i dosent help...

what exactly happens is that its just hangs up... so i have to restart the computer... sometimes i happens after 2min and sometimes after 30min.

Rogacz · Aug 15, 2004, 07:10 AM

Strange, maybe some spyware or adware problem? I had similar one, it hanged up my PC in random times.

Ronin | Eru · Aug 16, 2004, 07:33 PM

mm....I bet it's a heat problem!
Try this: Enter a game, wait a minute...and touch VGA's heat spreader. If it's warm, a little...its ok. If its cold, there's a problem!!

Rogacz · Aug 17, 2004, 05:21 AM

Or maybe You can cook eggs on it, that`s problem too.

frx218 · Aug 17, 2004, 01:41 PM

does it possibliy have bad mem becuase i had a similar prob.

Ronin | Eru · Aug 20, 2004, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rogacz

Or maybe You can cook eggs on it, that`s problem too.

That would be nice to see!! "Eggs a la Athlon!"

kona_dh · Jun 9, 2005, 01:55 PM

hi again... or something

the cards still hangs up and i havent got any god advice what to do... I think its a heating problem when checking whit ''speedfan'' it says that the grafikcard has a temp of 63C all the time could that be the problem...
You think a Zalman VF700-ALCU would do the work or do you think an arctic cooling for an fx5700 would work on my fx5600?

***Zardon*** · Jun 9, 2005, 03:25 PM

Are you comfortable with removing the cooler? have you any CPU thermal paste?

if you are, then

remove the cooler, clean the core from any gunk that is on it. put on a decent amount of thermal paste then reseat the cooler, check the fan is free from dirt and spins, put the card back in the system.

Turn the rig on, check the fan is actually spinning. if so, go into the bios, turn off fast writes, and any system caching, put your AGP aperture to 128.

clean out your video card drivers with drivercleaner www.drivercleaner.net , reboot, get the newest offical nvidia drivers from www.nvidia.com, we dont want any possibility of rogue drivers or betas, modded ones etc just yet.

deinstall any programs that came with the card for monitoring.

Reboot, install powerstrip, check the clock speeds are fine according to the manufacturers ratings. install coolbits which will give you temperature monitoring etc.

install 3dmark01, run nature test in a loop 5 times. if it still crashes, go into the driver, and downclock the card by 20mhz on both the core and ram. test again.

let me know how that goes.

kona_dh · Jun 9, 2005, 05:13 PM

Okey.

Ill just have to buy som e thermal paste tommorow..

But i have 2 questions...

1. How much is ''decent amount'' of thermal paste... Should i cover the whole core or how do you mean?

2. Ive installed coolbits and i found where to clock but i cannot see the temprature..

AMD4Life · Jun 9, 2005, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kona_dh

Okey.

Ill just have to buy som e thermal paste tommorow..

But i have 2 questions...

1. How much is ''decent amount'' of thermal paste... Should i cover the whole core or how do you mean?

2. Ive installed coolbits and i found where to clock but i cannot see the temprature..

Depending on what kinds of thermal paste you use, it can vary. I suggest you buy some Arctic Silver 5 and spread a thin layer over the entire core. This layer should be no thicker than a sheet of paper, especially with Arctic Silver 5.

***Zardon*** · Jun 10, 2005, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kona_dh

Okey.

Ill just have to buy som e thermal paste tommorow..

But i have 2 questions...

1. How much is ''decent amount'' of thermal paste... Should i cover the whole core or how do you mean?

2. Ive installed coolbits and i found where to clock but i cannot see the temprature..

as AMD4life said, if you use artic silver which is conductive dont use too much, just a thin layer covering the whole core.

Coolbits should mod the driver to show temperatures within the driver panels if your card has a diode.

kona_dh · Jun 10, 2005, 10:34 AM

Okey.
I havent got any thermal paste yet..

I dont have any temp thing i my driver panels but whit ''speedfan 4.24'' i can see 5 temps from some I2CNVidia SMBus so i guess thats from the fx5600 becouse i dont have anything else thats from nvidia i my comp..??

***Zardon*** · Jun 10, 2005, 02:12 PM

right now I wouldnt worry about monitoring the card until you narrow down the possible causes of the crashing. once you get that stable then you can start installing monitoring applications.

its the first thing you do when trouble shooting, deinstall all unnecessary applications and tweaks until you get the machine stable then work out from there.

kona_dh · Jun 12, 2005, 04:30 PM

Well... okey

I put the thermal past there and the temp i still the same....

and i done everthing you tyold me to do and here are the results....

Just whit the thermal past i still chrashes like before.

Whit thermal past and agp fast write disabled and agp aparture put 128 it dosent chrash anymore... 3dmark01 goes thru well but then in games... after a whiles playing the grafik gets all fucked upp and the game gets real slow. i have to ctrl+alt+del out of the game and restart the comp for the gam to work properly again.

And then i downclock the core and ram whit 20mhz and it does the same as above.....

Im starting to think that the temp aint the problem but my comp works well whit my gf2gts and i testet before to format the hdd and test to play whit the fx5600 on a clean hdd but it still did the same...

You got any other ideas?

kona_dh · Jun 22, 2005, 02:36 PM

anything?

kona_dh · Jul 4, 2005, 04:53 AM

sorry for taking it upp again but you where so helpful in the beginning but then you just forgat about me ???...... anyways... im still trying to get it to work... could it be something whit the card and the motherboard not working together?

kona_dh · Jul 8, 2005, 06:06 PM

okej...

now i know it aint a heating problem becouse i took of the side of my comp and put a big table fan blowing strait in to it... i saw the tempratures dropping on the gf card and then i played and it crashed again... then when i started win again the temps were still the same as they were before i started to play.... directly after i took away the fan the temps went up again to were they used to be....

now i even tested the omega drivers whit performance setting and the game (gta: san andreas) works better but all the cars are white.... the game still crashes but know the comp restarts which it havent done before...