Who makes the best GForce 4 card today?

bobgray · Jul 20, 2002, 12:18 PM

I like NVidia and would like to stick with them but I'm in the market to buy the best video card out today. I'm using it for gaming mostly. Lets say money is no object (oh well) what is THE card????

phatrx7 · Jul 20, 2002, 12:36 PM

I "personally" like *Gainward* and *Xtasy* ...they've been great cards for me, and seem to be very stable when overclocked as well.

Necrosis · Jul 20, 2002, 01:18 PM

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Originally posted by bobgray
I like NVidia and would like to stick with them but I'm in the market to buy the best video card out today. I'm using it for gaming mostly. Lets say money is no object (oh well) what is THE card????

The Leatek's seem to be very popular with that special heatsink/fan. I have VisionTek myself with no complaints.

bobgray · Jul 22, 2002, 12:50 AM

Thanks i appreciate the feedback....

Zarathustra · Jul 22, 2002, 02:44 AM

I'd go for one of Gainward's special edition models. But you'd do just fine with a PNY

JavaFox · Jul 22, 2002, 03:23 AM

ASUS's new copper heatsink looks to be a real winner, and ASUS always makes top-notch hardware. If money was no object, I'd have to go with the ASUS GeForce 4 Ti 4600 Ultra Deluxe.

(picture lifted from HardOCP.)

***Zardon*** · Jul 22, 2002, 05:34 PM

Asus or Leadtek. ive a leadtek A250 ultra myself, o'clocked to 330 (normally 320, I use 330 for benchies) core and 750mhz ram

great board.

9000+ glexcess Opengl , and 12,000+ in 3dmark.

[img]www.zardonthemystic.com/xp/cardandbox.jpg[/img]

Dom · Jul 23, 2002, 09:08 AM

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Originally posted by Zardon
Asus or Leadtek. ive a leadtek A250 ultra myself, o'clocked to 330 (normally 320, I use 330 for benchies) core and 750mhz ram great board.

9000+ glexcess Opengl , and 12,000+ in 3dmark.

[img]www.zardonthemystic.com/xp/cardandbox.jpg[/img]

Look at that heatsink, it's just begeing to be overclocked.

UberLord · Jul 23, 2002, 07:59 PM

Anyone got any idea of where to buy a HSF that size? My Parhelia is wanting one when Matrox release their overclocking proggy

***Zardon*** · Jul 24, 2002, 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by Dom
Look at that heatsink, it's just begeing to be overclocked.

yeah as I said I got it to 330 core and 750mhz ram ... pretty good

kinetic · Jul 24, 2002, 05:25 AM

Are those air filters over the fans?

Furious · Jul 24, 2002, 05:50 AM

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Originally posted by kinetic
Are those air filters over the fans?

Looks like it. Good idea too.

Furious · Jul 24, 2002, 05:52 AM

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Originally posted by kinetic
Are those air filters over the fans?

Here you go.

http://www.leadtek.com/graphics/a250...atd-myvivo.htm

Dust filters.

kinetic · Jul 24, 2002, 06:18 AM

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Originally posted by Furious
Looks like it. Good idea too.

I've seen some of that stuff lying around at work, I might try it over the intakes on my case.
Just wondering if it will restrict the volume of air.

~~JAV~~ · Jul 24, 2002, 06:32 AM

Yeah really: look @ that heatsink > must be trying to hide generic memory modules! The cards running the 3.0ns Hynix & Samsung memory modules don't need a hs that big to achieve high oc's.

Must be a marketing gimmick for ohhs' & ahh's.

3 way comparision with that card, Asus & Gainward: http://gotapex.com/reviews.php?rev=gf4-comp/index.html

Look @ the included items w/the Gainward:

& VIVO to boot!

The Xfs Graphics & Albatron Ti 4200's have proven to be extreme oc'ers too > quality Samsung & Hynix RAM.

HTH & don't be taken in by looks, check the specs & the included accessories.

JAV
GBA!

Furious · Jul 24, 2002, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kinetic
I've seen some of that stuff lying around at work, I might try it over the intakes on my case.
Just wondering if it will restrict the volume of air.

Shouldn't be a problem. Just keep them clean like your A/C filters in the house.

***Zardon*** · Jul 24, 2002, 06:59 AM

the memory on my leadtek 4600 is 2.8ns. and the heatsink keeps the ram cool at even 750mhz speeds, havent seen any other make to do that (as they normally use 2.9 or 3 and the cooling isnt as good), probably cause the heatsink is on both sides of the card, rear as well.

12,000+ in 3dmark and 9000+ in opengl (im the top scorer of any 4600 card) on http://www.glexcess.com

some review sites here
EDITORS choice award for leadtek http://www.hothardware.com/hh_files/...tragf4ti.shtml

WinFast A250 Ultra TD scored 9.1 from GameSpot.com It is the highest-rated hardware in GameSpot.com at this time. http://gamespot.com/gshw/filters/pro...561065,00.html

WinFast A250 Ultra TD receives Gamers Deopt.com 6 Drips Award.
http://www.gamersdepot.com/hardware/...t_a250/001.htm

A250 Ultra TD scored 93% from Firing Squad.com !!
http://firingsquad.gamers.com/hardwa...td/default.asp

you get all the cabling for dual output, video leads, vivo video in and out editing software, you get 6 games (europe anyway), leadteks superb dvd player, and a utility disc

kinetic · Jul 24, 2002, 07:09 AM

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Originally posted by Furious
Shouldn't be a problem. Just keep them clean like your A/C filters in the house.

We don't need air con in Manchester but I know what you mean.

Chaos · Jul 24, 2002, 07:32 AM

Well while you guys spend anywhere from $400 to $600 for the Ti4600 I will gladly settle for my $250 Ti4200 with the added touch from Thermaltake.

**Notice the ram sinks do not even cover the ram : ( **

What happened to quality control

310 core
615 mem
9751 3DMark 2001 SE

Furious · Jul 24, 2002, 07:44 AM

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Originally posted by kinetic
We don't need air con in Manchester but I know what you mean.

LOL, sorry.

I live in Florida. A/C is always on my mind.

~~JAV~~ · Jul 24, 2002, 01:19 PM

Zardon,

Thanks for the specs.

Here are 6 Ti4600's that ran 750 or MORE on their 2.8ns RAM & 5 of them don't even have any heatsinks on the RAM. http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/...0_4600-15.html

The MSI ran @ 335/770 w/o RAM heatsinks & only 1 GPU fan.

Maybe that hs is holding you back.

Enjoy,

JAV
GBA!

***Zardon*** · Jul 27, 2002, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JAV
Zardon,

Thanks for the specs.

Here are 6 Ti4600's that ran 750 or MORE on their 2.8ns RAM & 5 of them don't even have any heatsinks on the RAM. http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/...0_4600-15.html The MSI ran @ 335/770 w/o RAM heatsinks & only 1 GPU fan.

Maybe that hs is holding you back.

Enjoy,

JAV
GBA!

I havent tried pushing it past 750mhz yet, im sure I could but im not a hardcore overclocker. ill be sure to let you know if I do though, as I know you love this card so much

Chaos · Jul 28, 2002, 11:09 AM

ya come on Zardon crank that puppy up. If my system was unlocked I'm sure I would get past 10k but as it is I cant get past 9882

***Zardon*** · Jul 29, 2002, 03:50 PM

yeah id like to break 13k on 3dmark, wont make a difference to anything, but it sounds good. I got the ram to 760mhz...... 12,630.... I might try and volt mod this weekend...

CuSmile · Aug 2, 2002, 10:46 PM

The card that I have from Chaintech couldn't look or work any better. Check out the Heat sink on the memory not to mention the GPU, there's even heat sink on the back too, nothing better than to keep those BGA's nice and cool.

I use Gigabyte boards and haven't had any incompatible issuse with this Video card what so ever.
I've heard some Leadtech cards seem to have problems with Gigabyte boards. Note...if you see some Video cards with what looks like hand soldered component run for dear life, sources tell me they are "works" of a butcher.

Thanks chaintech and octools for the cool pics. ;-)

maniac trucker · Aug 11, 2002, 11:19 AM

I am getting the MSI GF4 4600 along with a MSI kt3 Ultra2+. Like all the reviews I have read and no issues with the combo that I have heard about.

Jul 20, 2002, 12:18 PM	#1
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Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,180 Rep Power: 94 System Specs	MSI GeForce 4 Ti 4200 with Thermaltake VGA Cooler Well while you guys spend anywhere from $400 to $600 for the Ti4600 I will gladly settle for my $250 Ti4200 with the added touch from Thermaltake. Notice the ram sinks do not even cover the ram : ( What happened to quality control 310 core 615 mem 9751 3DMark 2001 SE __________________

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Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,180 Rep Power: 94 System Specs	ya come on Zardon crank that puppy up. If my system was unlocked I'm sure I would get past 10k but as it is I cant get past 9882 __________________

Jul 22, 2002, 12:50 AM	#4
bobgray DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	Thanks i appreciate the feedback....

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Zarathustra Elite Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Confederacy Posts: 841 Rep Power: 0	I'd go for one of Gainward's special edition models. But you'd do just fine with a PNY

Jul 22, 2002, 03:23 AM	#6
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	ASUS's new copper heatsink looks to be a real winner, and ASUS always makes top-notch hardware. If money was no object, I'd have to go with the ASUS GeForce 4 Ti 4600 Ultra Deluxe. (picture lifted from HardOCP.)

Jul 22, 2002, 05:34 PM	#7
*Zardon* enchanted Join Date: May 2002 Location: Driverheaven Posts: 32,283 Rep Power: 3150	Asus or Leadtek. ive a leadtek A250 ultra myself, o'clocked to 330 (normally 320, I use 330 for benchies) core and 750mhz ram great board. 9000+ glexcess Opengl , and 12,000+ in 3dmark. [img]www.zardonthemystic.com/xp/cardandbox.jpg[/img]

Jul 24, 2002, 05:25 AM	#11
kinetic DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manchester England Posts: 2,559 Rep Power: 0	Are those air filters over the fans?

Jul 24, 2002, 06:32 AM	#15
~~JAV~~ Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: California, USA Posts: 283 Rep Power: 0	Yeah really: look @ that heatsink > must be trying to hide generic memory modules! The cards running the 3.0ns Hynix & Samsung memory modules don't need a hs that big to achieve high oc's. Must be a marketing gimmick for ohhs' & ahh's. 3 way comparision with that card, Asus & Gainward: http://gotapex.com/reviews.php?rev=gf4-comp/index.html Look @ the included items w/the Gainward: & VIVO to boot! The Xfs Graphics & Albatron Ti 4200's have proven to be extreme oc'ers too > quality Samsung & Hynix RAM. HTH & don't be taken in by looks, check the specs & the included accessories. JAV GBA!

Jul 24, 2002, 06:59 AM	#17
*Zardon* enchanted Join Date: May 2002 Location: Driverheaven Posts: 32,283 Rep Power: 3150	the memory on my leadtek 4600 is 2.8ns. and the heatsink keeps the ram cool at even 750mhz speeds, havent seen any other make to do that (as they normally use 2.9 or 3 and the cooling isnt as good), probably cause the heatsink is on both sides of the card, rear as well. 12,000+ in 3dmark and 9000+ in opengl (im the top scorer of any 4600 card) on http://www.glexcess.com some review sites here EDITORS choice award for leadtek http://www.hothardware.com/hh_files/...tragf4ti.shtml WinFast A250 Ultra TD scored 9.1 from GameSpot.com It is the highest-rated hardware in GameSpot.com at this time. http://gamespot.com/gshw/filters/pro...561065,00.html WinFast A250 Ultra TD receives Gamers Deopt.com 6 Drips Award. http://www.gamersdepot.com/hardware/...t_a250/001.htm A250 Ultra TD scored 93% from Firing Squad.com !! http://firingsquad.gamers.com/hardwa...td/default.asp you get all the cabling for dual output, video leads, vivo video in and out editing software, you get 6 games (europe anyway), leadteks superb dvd player, and a utility disc

Jul 24, 2002, 01:19 PM	#21
~~JAV~~ Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: California, USA Posts: 283 Rep Power: 0	Zardon, Thanks for the specs. Here are 6 Ti4600's that ran 750 or MORE on their 2.8ns RAM & 5 of them don't even have any heatsinks on the RAM. http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/...0_4600-15.html The MSI ran @ 335/770 w/o RAM heatsinks & only 1 GPU fan. Maybe that hs is holding you back. Enjoy, JAV GBA!

Jul 29, 2002, 03:50 PM	#24
*Zardon* enchanted Join Date: May 2002 Location: Driverheaven Posts: 32,283 Rep Power: 3150	yeah id like to break 13k on 3dmark, wont make a difference to anything, but it sounds good. I got the ram to 760mhz...... 12,630.... I might try and volt mod this weekend...

Aug 2, 2002, 10:46 PM	#25
CuSmile DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Chaintech AGT61 the way to go ;-) The card that I have from Chaintech couldn't look or work any better. Check out the Heat sink on the memory not to mention the GPU, there's even heat sink on the back too, nothing better than to keep those BGA's nice and cool. I use Gigabyte boards and haven't had any incompatible issuse with this Video card what so ever. I've heard some Leadtech cards seem to have problems with Gigabyte boards. Note...if you see some Video cards with what looks like hand soldered component run for dear life, sources tell me they are "works" of a butcher. Thanks chaintech and octools for the cool pics. ;-) __________________ Gigbyte GA8ITXE 640MB RDRAM PC800 nVidia Ti4600 Chaintech SbLive Adaptec RAID 2100s 128MB Cache 2*9 GIG SCSI-3 (RAID-0 Stripe) Windows 2K SP-3 SONY DVD DDU1621 SONY CRX175A1 Burner

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maniac trucker DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	GF4 TI4600 I am getting the MSI GF4 4600 along with a MSI kt3 Ultra2+. Like all the reviews I have read and no issues with the combo that I have heard about.