GT300 is a monster

ET3D · Sep 30, 2009, 05:51 PM

I just saw the specs at nVidia GT300's Fermi architecture unveiled: 512 cores, up to 6GB GDDR5 - Bright Side Of News*

I remember someone commenting that the NVIDIA chip will likely have the performance of 5870 crossfire, but also the same price. From the specs, looks like it probably won't be far from it.

comp_ali · Sep 30, 2009, 06:08 PM

If this article is true that will be good achievement , however it isn't expected to achieve these specs right now.
I don't think it will be like 2X 5870 , that's overestimate . And another thing about the price ,nVidia really don't show competitive prices since ages so this one is going to have a ridiculous price as usual.

blibbax · Sep 30, 2009, 06:19 PM

The big thing IMO is the native C++ support. the 384 bit bus rather than 512 should help to bring down manufacturing costs too.

DJ BIG T · Sep 30, 2009, 06:30 PM

if its true that would be great...i wasnt inpress with ati 5870 so i hope they make me smile....and for price i dont care for longer the drivers work for all my games...

Dark Lord · Sep 30, 2009, 07:28 PM

that whole thing doesnt smell like bullshit at all...

if any of that is true, it explains the rumored less then 2% yield rate for the cards.

im also 100% certain that if any of this is true, the price will be sky high for even the base line card. nvidia isnt known for being cheap or competitively priced. if theyre faster then the 5870, and by a wide margin, theyll tack on a huge premium price.

phantommenace2 · Sep 30, 2009, 07:31 PM

the new architecture was officially unveiled today...

First Image of Fermi (GT300) video card | AlienBabelTech

Dark Lord · Sep 30, 2009, 07:35 PM

well then... never mind what i said.

blibbax · Oct 1, 2009, 03:15 AM

TBH I'd bet that the less than 2% yield rumour was started by ATI. I'm sure Nvidia would do the same to them.

necrophyte · Oct 2, 2009, 05:59 AM

this seems really very very powerful, but IMO its more a card for programmers than for gamers. this is also a point where i doubt that the main target market (gamers) will be willing to pay the expected price for that "gpu".. considering 3bn transistors and the fact that the 5870x2 is obviously struggling with the power consumption (and maybe heat, as well) - how will this thing be able to run inside a "normal" consumer pc?

can someone explain what this new IEEE 754-2008 floating-point standard is supposed to be, and why the most recent cpus still dont have that?

i just came across this article - i dont wanna bash on the green team, since being a fanboy of the red one, or anything like that, im just interested in the credibility of these accusations. maybe someone here can state an objective oppinion on that..

SemiAccurate :: Nvidia fakes Fermi boards at GPU Technology Conference

comp_ali · Oct 2, 2009, 06:57 AM

Hahaaaa

, Epic Green Fail.Nice article , although I believe they can make new GPU but not with that ridiculous specs. It would take a year or more just making researches about that monster.

***Veridian3*** · Oct 2, 2009, 10:20 AM

Nvidia's next card will be interesting for sure, and we all know it will be better than the GTX285/295... my gut feel though is that the card may well lean a bit too far towards GPU computing and away from gaming, for the current market/world anyway.

In terms of futerproofing for GPU computing it will be impressive... but i just dont think it will have the massive gains over the 5870 that most people expect in games. (Though it will still be competitive)

Fermi will also stand NV in a good position for the stage when GPU computing really takes off because then they will have that side of their architecture well and truly refined.

Jac · Oct 2, 2009, 11:56 AM

What are people going to use the power of this card to do? Are there any developers pushing the boundaries of PC gfx or are they all simply developing for the lowest common denominator - the XBOX and PS3.

Judas · Oct 2, 2009, 12:44 PM

it'll doing blazing physics caculations..... but probably marginally outperform the 5870

**kris23** · Oct 2, 2009, 10:19 PM

was there always L1 and L2 cache in GPUs.....?

DJ BIG T · Oct 2, 2009, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kris23

was there always L1 and L2 cache in GPUs.....?

i dont think so not sure...

ET3D · Oct 3, 2009, 01:33 AM

Nice article about it at Anandtech: AnandTech: NVIDIA's Fermi: Architected for Tesla, 3 Billion Transistors in 2010

NVIDIA says they plan to bring this to the lower end pretty quickly.

blibbax · Oct 3, 2009, 08:01 AM

It is a fair point that current high end graphics seem massive overkill for almost all current games. The might not be that much more money in high end cards if mid range ones, like the 5850, can tackle almost any game at almost any resolution.

deBelly · Oct 3, 2009, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kris23

was there always L1 and L2 cache in GPUs.....?

Well, according to the chart G80 and GT200 don't have it... And I'm pretty sure my old MX400 didn't have it either.
It seems that new ATI cards have it.

OmegaRED · Oct 3, 2009, 10:54 AM

So...does this mean we can run Crysis at 60fps with 8x AA?

DJ BIG T · Oct 3, 2009, 04:14 PM

im starting to think this card is going to be a all around card like workstation and games...

Sep 30, 2009, 05:51 PM	#1
ET3D Hopeless Dreamer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Dreamland, near the pool of infinite graphics cards Posts: 2,525 Rep Power: 60 System Specs	GT300 is a monster I just saw the specs at nVidia GT300's Fermi architecture unveiled: 512 cores, up to 6GB GDDR5 - Bright Side Of News* I remember someone commenting that the NVIDIA chip will likely have the performance of 5870 crossfire, but also the same price. From the specs, looks like it probably won't be far from it.

Sep 30, 2009, 06:08 PM	#2
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 3,699 Rep Power: 98 System Specs	Re: GT300 is a monster If this article is true that will be good achievement , however it isn't expected to achieve these specs right now. I don't think it will be like 2X 5870 , that's overestimate . And another thing about the price ,nVidia really don't show competitive prices since ages so this one is going to have a ridiculous price as usual. __________________ "It is doubtful how DRM could reduce piracy and there no way it can boost games sales either"

Sep 30, 2009, 06:19 PM	#3
blibbax What does this do? Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 531 Rep Power: 20 System Specs	Re: GT300 is a monster The big thing IMO is the native C++ support. the 384 bit bus rather than 512 should help to bring down manufacturing costs too. __________________

Sep 30, 2009, 06:30 PM	#4
DJ BIG T DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ORLANDO,FL Posts: 695 Rep Power: 36 System Specs	Re: GT300 is a monster if its true that would be great...i wasnt inpress with ati 5870 so i hope they make me smile....and for price i dont care for longer the drivers work for all my games... __________________

Sep 30, 2009, 07:28 PM	#5
Dark Lord DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,584 Rep Power: 66 System Specs	Re: GT300 is a monster that whole thing doesnt smell like bullshit at all... if any of that is true, it explains the rumored less then 2% yield rate for the cards. im also 100% certain that if any of this is true, the price will be sky high for even the base line card. nvidia isnt known for being cheap or competitively priced. if theyre faster then the 5870, and by a wide margin, theyll tack on a huge premium price. __________________

Sep 30, 2009, 07:31 PM	#6
phantommenace2 dual core gaming Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 265 Rep Power: 37 System Specs	the new architecture was officially unveiled today... First Image of Fermi (GT300) video card \| AlienBabelTech

Sep 30, 2009, 07:35 PM	#7
Dark Lord DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,584 Rep Power: 66 System Specs	Re: GT300 is a monster well then... never mind what i said. __________________

Oct 1, 2009, 03:15 AM	#8
blibbax What does this do? Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 531 Rep Power: 20 System Specs	Re: GT300 is a monster TBH I'd bet that the less than 2% yield rumour was started by ATI. I'm sure Nvidia would do the same to them. __________________

Oct 2, 2009, 05:59 AM	#9
necrophyte DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: 1130 Vienna, Austria & Zagreb, Croatia Posts: 122 Rep Power: 12 System Specs	Re: GT300 is a monster this seems really very very powerful, but IMO its more a card for programmers than for gamers. this is also a point where i doubt that the main target market (gamers) will be willing to pay the expected price for that "gpu".. considering 3bn transistors and the fact that the 5870x2 is obviously struggling with the power consumption (and maybe heat, as well) - how will this thing be able to run inside a "normal" consumer pc? can someone explain what this new IEEE 754-2008 floating-point standard is supposed to be, and why the most recent cpus still dont have that? i just came across this article - i dont wanna bash on the green team, since being a fanboy of the red one, or anything like that, im just interested in the credibility of these accusations. maybe someone here can state an objective oppinion on that.. SemiAccurate :: Nvidia fakes Fermi boards at GPU Technology Conference

Oct 2, 2009, 06:57 AM	#10
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 3,699 Rep Power: 98 System Specs	Re: GT300 is a monster Hahaaaa , Epic Green Fail.Nice article , although I believe they can make new GPU but not with that ridiculous specs. It would take a year or more just making researches about that monster. __________________ "It is doubtful how DRM could reduce piracy and there no way it can boost games sales either"

Oct 2, 2009, 10:20 AM	#11
*Veridian3* Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cloaked Posts: 2,999 Rep Power: 72	Re: GT300 is a monster Nvidia's next card will be interesting for sure, and we all know it will be better than the GTX285/295... my gut feel though is that the card may well lean a bit too far towards GPU computing and away from gaming, for the current market/world anyway. In terms of futerproofing for GPU computing it will be impressive... but i just dont think it will have the massive gains over the 5870 that most people expect in games. (Though it will still be competitive) Fermi will also stand NV in a good position for the stage when GPU computing really takes off because then they will have that side of their architecture well and truly refined.

Oct 2, 2009, 11:56 AM	#12
Jac DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 128 Rep Power: 4 System Specs	Re: GT300 is a monster What are people going to use the power of this card to do? Are there any developers pushing the boundaries of PC gfx or are they all simply developing for the lowest common denominator - the XBOX and PS3.

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Oct 3, 2009, 01:33 AM	#16
ET3D Hopeless Dreamer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Dreamland, near the pool of infinite graphics cards Posts: 2,525 Rep Power: 60 System Specs	Re: GT300 is a monster Nice article about it at Anandtech: AnandTech: NVIDIA's Fermi: Architected for Tesla, 3 Billion Transistors in 2010 NVIDIA says they plan to bring this to the lower end pretty quickly.

Oct 3, 2009, 08:01 AM	#17
blibbax What does this do? Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 531 Rep Power: 20 System Specs	Re: GT300 is a monster It is a fair point that current high end graphics seem massive overkill for almost all current games. The might not be that much more money in high end cards if mid range ones, like the 5850, can tackle almost any game at almost any resolution. __________________

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