what is the new MX?

MGaz

simple question.

When the geforce 4 came out, you could buy an MX version like that of say the MX440. It had the same clock speed as my 4400Ti but was a lot slower due to cheaper build / less features. etc.. & was no match for a previous generation Geforce 3. Simple, rite?

Soooo what i want to know is, because NVIDIA don't use the MX badge anymore, What are the newer geforce versions to avoid?

I'm guessing FX5200 ? = poo. rite? is there anything else that's best avoided in the FX range?

Same goes for the Geforce 6 & Geforce 7 series.. Please steer me clear of the sh**ty versions of these geforce 5/fx , 6 , & 7 GPU's. (not forgetting the deceptive SE versions) of some cards.

its a bit of a mine field out there today.. The MX badge made rubbish so much simpler to avoid.

aNy_oNE

Lower number, lower performance (in the same thousand so for example a 7600 is less performance than a 7900, but a 7300 doesn't perform better than a 6800). Card suffixes are (in order of low to higher performance) GS, GST, GT, GTS, GTX. GTS and GTX are only used in 8800 series. So, to review, a 7600GS will have less performance than a 7600GT, more than a 6600GS, and less than a 6800GT/7900GS and up.

It's confusing, I know. But theres no "MX" like thing - GS is the closest thing to it. But a GS is still not bad, just not the greatest performance.

Shouldn't be needing to know about FX stuff, lol.

MGaz

great!.. cheers. Just another question. is the 7600GT faster than the 6800GT/ultra?

thos FX cards are strange. the really fast ones (5950ultra) not only have higher MHz Gpus but also 256bit bus ram (i think) and there GB's data rates are in the 30+ GB's.. higher than most 6xxx or 7xxx's :s

Grace

No, I don't think so. The 7600GT is a fast card but the 6800GT will be slightly faster and the 6800 Ultra considerably faster. Not faster enough to explain hundreds of $ more though, so you need to let us know the prices you can get them for as well. The 6 series are no longer in production, so I guess you can get them for a good price from a store which wishes to get rid of their stock.

MGaz

ah.. well i have a choice of a
Geforce fx 5950 ultra
a 6800 GT
a 6800 Ultra
& a 7600 GT

would the 7600GT be worth it as far as image quality/freatures goes? will it be better card in that respect?

MGaz

what about the XFX GeForce 6800 XTreme 256mb ? is that an ultra, or gt?

fobis

I would get the 7600GT since it'll probably handle SM3.0 better than the 6800 series and consume less power.
Any GeForce FX series card is junk.
And if I'm guessing right, the XFX GeForce 6800 XTreme is just a 6800 XT which is junk.
And just FYI, the GeForce4 MX was junk because it was a GeForce2 with higher clocks.

wiskerbizkit

I'd get the 6800gt or ultra, both 16 pipe cards and 256bit, 7600gt is 12 pipes and 128 bit.

Golbeze

Actually, in all the benchmarks I've seen the 7600GT outperformed or was on par with the 6800GT despite the 7600 only being 128-bit, mostly due to the more sufficient architecture as well as the high clock speeds for both gpu and memory. I've got a 7600GT and it works great for me. The 6800Ultra is a different story, though.

CDsDontBurn

the ONLY difference between the 6800 GT and the 6800 Ultra, are the clock speeds. the GT has clock speeds of 350/1000 and the Ultra has clock speeds of 400/1100. Aside from that, the two cards are identical in everything else.

AFAIK, the 7600GT performs similar to the 6800 vanilla, which has 12 pixel pipes, 128Mb VRAM, 325/950 clocks, which imo, either are still decent cards for a budget gaming rig .

Golbeze

Ok, I see the difference between the 6800Gt and Ultra, but I still say the 7600GT is faster that the 6800GT. Here's a couple links to reviews compaing the 7600GT to the 6800GT. http://www.nvnews.net/reviews/xfx_7600gt_xxx/

http://www.penstarsys.com/reviews/vi...tco/index.html

In both the 7600Gt consistently have higher scores and FPS despite having a smaller number of pipes and only being 128-bit, mostly due to the higher clock rate and more efficient design. I would imagine the 7600GS to perform similiarly to a vanilla 6800 due to its much lower clocks.

aNy_oNE

I agree with Golbeze, I saw several benchmarks that put the 7600GT above the 6800GT. Don't ask me which ones though, I've forgotten

MGaz

cheers guys. hate to be a pain, but where dose the 7800GS sit in this group? am i right in thinking it has 20pipes? & 256bit memory?

not that a GT is avalable on AGP bus, but whats the difference between 7800GS & 7800GT/(or higher cards) ? is it just clock speed?

and finaly, is 7800gs much faster than 6800ultra?/7600GT?

Matth

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/graphics/charts.html - good for comparisons, some card families will swing wildly in placing between different game tests (in a similar way to the ATI/Nvidia dominance in paricular tests) - make sure you don't select an SLI (pair) - the descriptions could do with being a little clearer.

CDsDontBurn

cool, the 7800GS sits above a 7800GTX and below an x1800xt, however it is still significantly shy of an x1950pro. The x1950pro is not listed as to wheather or not it's AGP or PCI-E.

fobis

Do you mean the 7900GS?

CDsDontBurn

nope.

MGaz

its a pain that ati don't have better suport for my shutter glasses. If they did, i almost defenetly would be buying an ATi for its performance vs price.

Think ATi is missing out in this respect..

I have to say, since using my shutter glasses, playing a game with out them seems 2Dimentional by comparison. Guess you have to experience it first hand to truly appreciate what your missing out on.