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Originally Posted by mike2h
did you even bother to read my post. i 'lived through it' too. whatever that means. 
i have no idea what 'history books' you are reading. did not know there were any history books out on this matter.  . |
The web is a giant history book among other things. But as I say I was PC’s long before we moved from EDO/FPM to SDRAM, in the business when we went from SDRAM to rombus and to DDR.
I eat, sleep, s*** pc’s. It’s what I do it’s who I am. The whole world is wrapped around PC’s for me. It’s hard to explain and life long obsession and fascination. Self thought and learnt I often rival some people who are collage grads and been in the PC bossiness about 20 years. I’m not in it for the money; I’m in it for the love of computers…Working with them, on them etc…
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i get my info from the court cases, were facts are presented. important distinction there dont you think?the reason i follow these cases rambus is involved in is because i have been buying rambus stock for years. & made $$ of it.(getting ready to buy back in). so i have made it my personal business to research the company, the tech, and all the litigation. & not get my info 2nd hand.
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I just know what transpired back in the day. I'm not up on the DDR says, what rombus say "he says... she says...” I do however read a lot of what pops up in the news and what shows up on the news networks.
The company has the potential to be something but they’ve pretty well lost out on being main stream for a long time. Especially with their price and performance ratios wich their prices have dropped from beyond insane to more acceptable levels but they still don’ offer what they’d need to compete. Against the current contender that has the most of the market and support by a distant far.
Where the real money is with volume sales everything from video cards, electronics, pc’s system memory, etc… By far everything is DDR. There is possibly more older SDRAM/EDO/FPM in use then RDRAM
I might start a poll for you on this forum and ask what memory people are using? If it makes you happy but I already know the result.
You can look 1 year down the road and say where anyone will be. Buy when you look 2-4 year ahead a say how bad arse rombus will be you also have to look at DDR and how bad arse it will be in the same period.
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ddr is tops because the mem makers wanted it thay way. period.
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No the consumers set the STD, the mfg's like to make money. Rombus was expensive to make and expressive to sell. It costs leaps and bound more then DDR and offer little if any gains. DDR sold like hot cakes. Rombus didn’t have the consumer demand. Mainly because of the COST but the lack of real or sizeable performance gain over DDR that you ge for that cost was tiny.
It be like reatailing $100 5ghz P4 and then a 15 mhz faster P4 for an extra $200!!!
(an exaggeration but you should get my point)
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the rambus tech being used in sdram & all forms of ddr is a fact. even the mem makers acknowledge this. so why shouldnt they(rambus) try to get reimbursed for their research efforts. actually samsung(the largest mem maker) does pay them & for ddr & sdram. & they are not the only ones.
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Rambus and DDR are still verry diffrent. Just becouse they hold the patent to something doesnt mean much. other wise it do you thing woud of been brough up almost a decade ago??...
ATI has the patent on "AFR" used in NVIDIA SLI. AMD’s 64 bit code Intel barrowed with out permission and 98% matches the code used from AMD’s 64bit. And we see no law suits.. Though I guess they could try it happens all the time.
Other use parts a pieces patented and own by of each other (licensed or not) tech because they have no choice. Far as technology goes some things have to be done a certain way. Specs and standards are set. Either you use them or stop? Completion development, and advancement.
It’s not like they copied Rombus and put their label on it. It’s a very different product architecturally and technology wise.
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if there were chipsets that had equivalent tech in them out now rdram would STILL be the fastest memory solution compared to ddr.
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A verry small gain over DDR for the pice paid. Wasn't worth it to most people...
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they were producing 1066, 1200 & had just started 1600 & were looking forward to higher speeds when everything died. this was 3 years ago. unfotunatly rambus made some poor management decisions, let themselves get caught up in intels gorilla game. & failed to realise how far the mem makers would go to keep their pockets lined.
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I know all that time and nothing really changed with them...
But with out the “gorilla game” and money from Intel it very likely they would of at lest went to bankruptcy and possibly the way of 3dfx. Intel wants as return of their investment so I’ would be surprised if they want to push Rombus in the future.
But you have to compare it to DDR in cost and speed. You also have to realize how much and how quickly things can change. But for rombus it is an up hill battle even if they had a wonderful product.
(I don't buy stock like that I buy the little start ups tha go from for example $0.50 to $8 and sell and make booku return from a small investment. I've turned $100 profit after off $20 worth of stock. Companies who priced are so high you have to be rich or have alot of money to risk. to be able to own enough volume to really make that much money or % return on you envestment. )
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the wost part is, we the consumers got screwed royally on this. we have been stuck with a dead end tech-ddr,ddr2,3 whatever- becuase the mem makers did not want to invest in advanced technology. some of them still dont. thank goodness some of them - samsung, elpida to name 2- are looking to the future. like i have said before neon. do your research. & i do not mean going to a few tech sites & reading 2nd hand/made up info. i have read all that crap too.
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I don't think we got dicked DDR is just fine and dandy...
Memory makers what a product they can mass produce (It’s cheaper to produce 100 million chips then 10,000) and products they can sell is mass volumes (again rombus expensive to make, expressive to sell). People compared DDR to rombus and it just didn’t stick up in the real world. There is more the just “MHz” at play.
If rombus was so good, and so fast and so advanced it would have took off instead of DDR
Like I said they both have their applications but DDR is a will be king and what standard for a long time to come. Unless rombus can pull some magic out of their hat and even then it would be a gradual change.
They may have a good future but all I can go on is now. Now their not to hot…
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