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Old Mar 25, 2005, 04:32 PM   #1
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XFX Shatters the 3DMark World Record

It only took an XFX NVIDIA GeForce 6800GT SLI card--and a special liquid nitrogen cooling system--to break the 3DMark World Record.

To accomplish this great benchmarking achievement, XFX and a pair of dedicated Finnish overclockers utilized two of XFX's multi-award-winning GeForce 6800 GT cards featuring 256MB of 256-bit GDDR3 memory, PCI Express Bus Architecture and NVIDIA's SLI Technology.

Together with the aforementioned cooling system, they were able to increase the power supply to the memory modules and achieve a core clock of 575 MHz with a memory speed of 1300 MHz to produce a screaming 3DMark Score of 12,483.

This was no easy victory. The two XFX GeForce 6800 GTs with NVIDIA SLI technology were pitted against imposing opposition--including SLI enabled GeForce 6800 Ultras--and, against all odds and mind-boggling improbability, they were able to surpass the competition by leaps and bounds. As the record books prove, this card is a must-have for the professional, dedicated gamer who wants to stay on top of his game. Or, in this case, likes to break world records.

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ok neon, lets hear it.....
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rofl. Why yes, this is card is a must-have, proved by the fact that two of them in sli overclocked like a mo with liquid nitrogen will perform the same as one aircooled unit
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Old Mar 25, 2005, 05:07 PM   #4
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rofl. Why yes, this is card is a must-have, proved by the fact that two of them in sli overclocked like a mo with liquid nitrogen will perform the same as one aircooled unit
well I think thats a little inaccurate, certainly no single card will perform the same as that in 3dmark.

I think I understand your points, meaning the lack of driver support right now and the issues with certain games? I think there is plenty of room for improvement and it will happen.

Still its quite an achievement, I think people need to get out of the ATI/NVIDIA camps and look at the bigger picture
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Old Mar 25, 2005, 06:16 PM   #5
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I've met Neon and hiz girl at MML2 (2 was it?) and he's a nice guy in person (as is hiz lady!) but he needs to get off the nVidia trip - and I think he has.

I suspect after the considerable amount of positive nvidia items in the news - its awefully hard to argue they don't have a world class product. Not that ATI doesn't have world class products either - but I think he may have ran out of negative things to say - because there aren't many!

Anyway - wow thats pretty impressive. Excessive but impressive nontheless!
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Ya but I don't find it's apples to apples. Amazing acheviemnt but hell! I mean, 1 vs 1 is cool but 2 vs 1 ain't ever. But last rumors I heard is ATI getting a SLI system sorta thingy too... Then the benchmarks are gonna have some fun!
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well I think thats a little inaccurate, certainly no single card will perform the same as that in 3dmark.

I think I understand your points, meaning the lack of driver support right now and the issues with certain games? I think there is plenty of room for improvement and it will happen.

Still its quite an achievement, I think people need to get out of the ATI/NVIDIA camps and look at the bigger picture [img]images/smilies/smilie.gif[/img]
I was just pointing out the PR at work in this article, they insinuate that the 6800 GT card (not cards, so you must assume they mean single card, not an SLI line up) will perform equally as well as the hot SLI rig they managed to put together. I certainly don't have a thing against nvidia, yes they have a lack of driver support, but a lot of games that arent' on their list are old games that don't require an SLI setup for. I had the requisite geforce 4 card when they were king, and if I had the cash I'd probably go with a 6800 ultra right now, maybe not... but I wasn't saying anything bad against nvidia, just pointing out the spin at work in the article.
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Old Mar 25, 2005, 09:05 PM   #8
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I am not going to bash Nvidia (although I usually call them nshitia), but I have been seriously considering switching to one of the newer cards because ATI's linux driver support is not that great.

Yes, 3d does work with the new ATI Linux Driver. I am not that impressed with it though because there is a huge memory leak problem. Running UT2k4 on Mandrake 10.1 only lasts about 10 minutes before the game is running like the computer is a 386 and all of the system memory is being used up.

I have to take into consideration every hardware purchase to make sure that I will have good support in the linux driver department.

I have been talking to some of my friends that have all unix/linux computers and they have been using Nvidia cards awhile. I have followed what they have said concerning the driver development and it appears that ATI is at the same point Nvidia was a couple years ago with their drivers. I don't know if I can wait that long to get adequate 3d support.

The only real beef that I have with Nvidia is all of the TWIMTBP (The way it's meant to be played) games. I believe that the reason for direct X was to make a standard to work with, but now there are card specific enhancements which seem to cause games to work poorly with other cards. Why not just write to the standard??

SLI will be something great, but I think that with the video cards priced the way they are now it is going to take awhile before it really catches on and starts getting the backing from developers. I can't see spending $800-$1000+ to get two video cards.

Anyways, thats my 2c. I will stop ranting now.
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Finnish overclockers rocks
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Old Mar 26, 2005, 04:49 AM   #10
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ok neon, lets hear it.....


what? for 700-1000 + extra dollars, plus voltmods plus extreme over clocking cooling etc add $300- $1000 to that total and still not get those speeds... but you could you too can have a system kind of of like that....



one thing clear NVIDIA SLI is getting better but it's still not worth it's cost... plus is plagued with problems and lack of effort and game support added on nvidias end.



Also you'd see to see ATI's planned solution other then the broad they showed @ cbit

Say that again when some one take the record away with an ATI dual setup



Which a single o/c X800 single ATI beat a dual 6800U setup when NV first rolled out SLI

don't forget that so quickly... and that was not some "peak score" that can't be maintain but one that some one could game with constantly...



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rofl. Why yes, this is card is a must-have, proved by the fact that two of them in sli over clocked like a mo with liquid nitrogen will perform the same as one air-cooled unit


last i checked it's about $50 deposited for the canister and $50 for the liquid nitrogen about a gallon... Of because it evaporates at room temp little lone when absorbing monstrous amounts of heat energy it wouldn't last very long

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Well 2x6800GT isn't it kinda weird they perform better than 2x6800 Ultra ?
Maybe the experience was so expensive they couldn't add the 200$ extra to try with ultras
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Old Mar 26, 2005, 06:17 AM   #12
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I was just pointing out the PR at work in this article, they insinuate that the 6800 GT card (not cards, so you must assume they mean single card, not an SLI line up) will perform equally as well as the hot SLI rig they managed to put together. I certainly don't have a thing against nvidia, yes they have a lack of driver support, but a lot of games that arent' on their list are old games that don't require an SLI setup for. I had the requisite geforce 4 card when they were king, and if I had the cash I'd probably go with a 6800 ultra right now, maybe not... but I wasn't saying anything bad against nvidia, just pointing out the spin at work in the article.
Of course its PR, its nvnews, the biggest nvidia fan site on the net. However the scores are geniune and very impressive.
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Great score, and even "greater" price.

I think SLI is to much actually, to expensive, to hot, to much power etc.

Anyway, great job those 2 finish boys did.
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Old Mar 26, 2005, 06:42 AM   #14
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Of course its PR, its nvnews, the biggest nvidia fan site on the net. However the scores are geniune and very impressive.
Nvnews just linked to it: http://www.xfxforce.com/ is responsible for that page and of course the benches. It's the "NVIDIA only" subsidiary of pine graphics (not known being good but cheap). So you can guess this was done by technicians and professionals... on hand built / selected cards...

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Old Mar 26, 2005, 06:50 AM   #15
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Nvnews just linked to it: http://www.xfxforce.com/ is responceable for that page and of couse the benches. It's the "nvidia only" subisday of pine grahics (not known being good but cheape). So you can gess this was done by techincans and professionals... on hand built / selected cards...
Im aware of that, however the text which I copied word from word is from nvnews, hence my reply.
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Thursday, March 24, 2005 9:50 pm

hehe- I was going to post this then, but I forgot.

Pretty good results....
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I Love competition, just imagine what we can do with ATI products and similar tests....
come on guys, look what a major leap in technology this is, I am a huge ATI fan but jeez, this is phenominal.
LETS FACE IT, if it helps you kick serious ass in gaming and produces fantastic framerates and quality to boot, even the most ardent ATI fan would agree, and try to duplicate the success with an ATI product, dont be suprised if someone is already doing this with the new ATI cards.
It now appears that the threshold to the marriage between quality and frame rates is not far away for the average consumer.....
MARK MY WORDS......
A new chapter in video card technology has been written here...and everyone should take notice...
things are gettting better for consumers all the time, without this interest and dedication in technology we would all still be running Banshees, and 128's, this is wonderufl!!!!!!
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things are gettting better for consumers all the time, without this interest and dedication in technology we would all still be running Banshees, and 128's, this is wonderufl!!!!!!
I agree with you, it is good to have competition, it can only mean goods things for consumers.

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last i checked it's about $50 deposite for the canister and $50 for the liquid nitrogen about a gallon... Of couse it evapoates at room temp little lone when exobeing monsteroius amounts of heat energy it wouldn't last verry long
What is your point with this? I didn't say anything about money... and what does "little lone when exobeing" mean exactly? I can usually decipher what you're talking about but I don't have any idea here.
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I have an XFX 6800GT


...mines AGP and doesn't have LNO2 though

I can vouch for them being rock solid cards though
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what does "little lone when exobeing" mean exactly? I can usually decipher what you're talking about but I don't have any idea here.
It means he cant be bothered proof reading his posts !
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i think he meant the N2 will evaporate quickly under normal circumstances, but when subjected to the head out put of two of these cards the rate of evaporation will be much greater

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I had an XFX ti4200 that I ran at 315/610 for a couple years. If I ever get another Nvidia card I will be looking at XFX first. That card was bullet proof.
LOL I still have an old 3dmark score from it... from 09-28-2002
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=4609985
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