Windows Media Player 9 leaked

Korupt · Jul 20, 2002, 01:25 PM

I believe the reason why some people are getting it and some are not is maybe some of you guys installed the addon pack when you had WMP8 installed that gives you the taskbar player. Or it could be some folks had the addon package from MS for WMP8 installed.

Korupt · Jul 20, 2002, 01:27 PM

I found if you uncheck this option in your options, most movie formats will play

gtrz · Jul 20, 2002, 05:02 PM

Hi,first post here.Can I use this with Win ME?Does it contain any updated
codecs,or just the player?

huwdw · Jul 20, 2002, 09:08 PM

I am running WMP9 on a clean install of XP with Sp1 1073 so it can't be becuase ive had somthing installed previously

manne · Jul 20, 2002, 09:21 PM

How the heck do I get rid of the watermark ??

I've deleted to key in regedit but that didn't help.
Or was that only for winXP.. it seems like the most of you use XP. I'm using win 2000.

Somebody have any other good ideas how to get rid of the watermark? 'cus sure I dont want it on my desktop!

I've uninstalled wmp9, think I'll wait till it gets better..

DD1 · Jul 21, 2002, 12:58 AM

I just installed this and well when i try playing any file it does the loading thing then closes. i am running XP with SP1 1078. I'll continue playing with the settings but any help would be greatly appreciated.

Michael14100 · Jul 21, 2002, 01:01 AM

its working for me but i dont have any SP installed

Yorugaloco · Jul 21, 2002, 01:06 AM

I have found that wmp9 doesn't like old codecs , to solve the problems with it i installed the new divx 5.0.4 in that with the new codecs for mpeg4 solved all the problems for me....so try that and see.....HOPE IT WLL HELP SOMEBODY

Robert McClelland · Jul 21, 2002, 03:18 AM

I have media player 9 works great going try dvd on next week. It said Windows xp home edition for testing purpoese only. Build 2600 I don't even have sevice beta pack yet lol

AlternateVirus · Jul 21, 2002, 03:33 AM

i posted this in page 3
http://www.neowin.net/staff/users/Magoo/rm.bat
watermark remover
save it to disk and open it, it'll remove the watermark

hades · Jul 21, 2002, 04:37 AM

I'd really like to get that taskbar thing to work. Does it work under Windows XP? or only Windows. NET?? Thanks for any help provided!! - Hades

GravY · Jul 21, 2002, 05:54 AM

is there a way to uninstall this? I can't get anything to run, and I really don't have the time to put into it right now..

DD1 · Jul 21, 2002, 06:58 AM

For anyone having problems playing media files with windows media player 9 try downloading the wmp bonus pack and installing it. I did earlier and all my files work fine now. Thought I'd help...

Also there's a test notice remover i got called: Test_Notice_Remover_v1201 it removes that annoying test thing in the bottom right by the taskbar. do a search for it or if someone has a good ftp and leaves the address i'll upload it for anyone who needs it.

Edited for typos

Vampirefo · Jul 21, 2002, 06:58 AM

I removed SP1 1078, and then install just WMP9, and now the task bar controls work, So in my case SP1 was the problem.

DTown1968 · Jul 21, 2002, 07:05 AM

Here`s how you get rid of the watermark for WM9 OR SP1 in XP. Run regedit.exe and delete the following keys:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\SystemCertif icates\CA\Certificates\FEE449EE0E3965A5246F000E87F DE2A065FD89D4]

and

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\SystemCertif icates\ROOT\Certificates\2BD63D28D7BCD0E251195AEB5 19243C13142EBC3]

Make sure to delete them both. Good Luck, DTown1968

AlternateVirus · Jul 21, 2002, 07:14 AM

is everybody blind?
run this batch file and it'll remove the testing for watermark off your desktop
[SIZE=large]http://www.neowin.net/staff/users/Magoo/rm.bat[/size]

DTown1968 · Jul 21, 2002, 07:28 AM

I dont think I`m blind, but I might be since I dont see the watermark anymore. HAHAHA

JessC · Jul 21, 2002, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlternateVirus
is everybody blind?
run this batch file and it'll remove the testing for watermark off your desktop
[SIZE=large]http://www.neowin.net/staff/users/Magoo/rm.bat[/size]

[SIZE=xx-large]THANK YOU!!![/size]
It worked!

Robert McClelland · Jul 21, 2002, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GravY
is there a way to uninstall this? I can't get anything to run, and I really don't have the time to put into it right now..

Did you try system restore a point

?

GravY · Jul 21, 2002, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Robert McClelland
Did you try system restore a point ?

DOH
*smacks self in head*

Will give it a shot thanks..

Antario · Jul 21, 2002, 11:39 AM

WMP9 is definitely cool. I was expecting more. What I don't know though. I really dig the minimizing function as well. The sound is hugely improved from 8. There were also extra DVD sound features like Dolby Surround and Dolby Headphones. I really don't know if it just took it from my copies of WinDVD or PowerDVD, but cool nonetheless.

And damn, I forgot to do an restore point.

Desert_Siege · Jul 21, 2002, 01:33 PM

It just minimizes to the tray...no buttons...

~~Crash Override~~ · Jul 21, 2002, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Desert_Siege
It just minimizes to the tray...no buttons...

yeah it seems to not like the service packs right now

plus it doesnt like to play web audio

and web based video plays the audio only

they have some work to do before i try the next beta

Korupt · Jul 21, 2002, 02:01 PM

K I tested this out, installed WMP9 on gold copy of XP Pro and it installed the taskbar.
Tried the same install after installing SP1 1078, no taskbar install.

So I'm leaning towards WMP not intergrating correctly with the SP

Mad Max · Jul 22, 2002, 03:58 AM

Got it and it works great! Thanks for the links fellas!

-edit: I also had to uninstall the service pack to get the taskbar player thing to work.

gooool · Jul 22, 2002, 04:25 PM

1. What are TCPA and Palladium?

TCPA stands for the Trusted Computing Platform Alliance, an initiative led by Intel. Their stated goal is `a new computing platform for the next century that will provide for improved trust in the PC platform.' Palladium is software that Microsoft says it plans to incorporate in future versions of Windows; it will build on the TCPA hardware, and will add some extra features.

2. What does TCPA / Palladium do, in ordinary English?

It provides a computing platform on which you can't tamper with the applications, and where these applications can communicate securely with the vendor. The obvious application is digital rights management (DRM): Disney will be able to sell you DVDs that will decrypt and run on a Palladium platform, but which you won't be able to copy. The music industry will be able to sell you music downloads that you won't be able to swap. They will be able to sell you CDs that you'll only be able to play three times, or only on your birthday. All sorts of new marketing possibilities will open up.

TCPA / Palladium will also make it much harder for you to run unlicensed software. Pirate software can be detected and deleted remotely. It will also make it easier for people to rent software rather than buying it; and if you stop paying the rent, then not only does the software stop working but so may the files it created. For years, Bill Gates has dreamed of finding a way to make the Chinese pay for software: Palladium could be the answer to his prayer.

There are many other possibilities. Governments will be able to arrange things so that all Word documents created on civil servants' PCs are `born classified' and can't be leaked electronically to journalists. Auction sites might insist that you use trusted proxy software for bidding, so that you can't bid tactically at the auction. Cheating at computer games could be made more difficult.

There is a downside too. There will be remote censorship: the mechanisms designed to delete pirated music under remote control may be used to delete documents that a court (or a software company) has decided are offensive - this could be anything from pornography to writings that criticise political leaders. Software companies can also make it harder for you to switch to their competitors' products; for example, Word could encrypt all your documents using keys that only Microsoft products have access to; this would mean that you could only read them using Microsoft products, not with any competing word processor.

3. So I won't be able to play MP3s on my PC any more?

With existing MP3s, you may be all right for some time. Microsoft says that Palladium won't make anything suddenly stop working. But a recent software update for Windows Media Player has caused controversy by insisting that users agree to future anti-piracy measures, which may include measures that delete pirated content found on your computer. Also, some programs that give people more control over their PCs, such as VMware and Total Recorder, are unlikely to work under TCPA. So you may have to use a different player - and if your player will play pirate MP3s, then it seems unlikely to be authorised to play the new, protected, titles.

It is up to an application to set the security policy for its files, using an online policy server. So Media Player will determine what sort of conditions get attached to protected titles, and I expect Microsoft will do all sorts of deals with the content providers, who will experiment with all sorts of business models. You might get CDs that are a third of the price but which you can only play three times; if you pay the other two-thirds, you'd get full rights. You might be allowed to lend your copy of some digital music to a friend, but then your own backup copy won't be playable until your friend gives you the main copy back. More likely, you will not be able to lend music at all. These policies will make life inconvenient for some people; for example, regional coding might stop you watching the Polish version of a movie if your PC was bought outside Europe.

This could all be done today - Microsoft would just have to download a patch into your player - but once TCPA / Palladium makes it hard for people to tamper with the player software, and easier for Microsoft to control upgrades and patches, it will be harder for you to escape, and will therefore be a more attractive way of doing business.

4. How does it work?

TCPA provides for a monitoring and reporting component to be mounted in future PCs. The preferred implementation in the first phase of TCPA is a `Fritz' chip - a smartcard chip or dongle soldered to the motherboard.

When you boot up your PC, Fritz takes charge. He checks that the boot ROM is as expected, executes it, measures the state of the machine; then checks the first part of the operating system, loads and executes it, checks the state of the machine; and so on. The trust boundary, of hardware and software considered to be known and verified, is steadily expanded. A table is maintained of the hardware (audio card, video card etc) and the software (O/S, drivers, etc); Fritz checks that the hardware components are on the TCPA approved list, that the software components have been signed, and that none of them has a serial number that has been revoked. If there ar