Article:Ati Drivers Put To The Test

WaltC

Right!... Which is why I think it'd be interesting to find out if these Dell drivers cause similar temp spikes with the Dell OEM hardware they are targeted for. Basically, I'm just wondering what it is they do that causes such spikes to occur. If they don't cause the spikes in the Dell hardware, then it might be that the Dell drivers are interfacing incorrectly with the bios on non-Dell retail ATi reference design hardware.

River

I run a Dell, see (sig) and have been running the 2496b's for the last 5 days, and as reported in an earlier post, I have no stability problem, and they score they highest for me of any previous Omega or ATI set.

as to concerns with graphic card damage due to heat, or monitor problems due to whatever(?) I have seen no signs of any problems in these two areas. I do not have temp sensor for card, but it does not feel any warmer than it ever has in the past but have only checked it two other times in the past 9 months.

I see no reason at this time to go back, and will only if some thing official comes out concerning this set of drivers.

River~

DallasStar

Thanks much! this explains why my temps flew up w/ the new omegas . I will use the official drivers for now.

The_Neon_Cowboy

I went back a re-edited as some spellings got past my spell checker and I should of caught them earlier needed sleep!

PS. Were can I get ahold of the dell leak????


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ukm

I've been taking a look at all of these temp problems. as it seems, the problem is based on the 3.8.5 driver leak. might it be possible, that these 3.8.5 drivers dell is using are only intended to be used on XT cards, which have the temp-monitoring included? i'm wondering if it might be possible, that all the non-XT cards are running with some dynamical-OC, which they aren't supposed to do, and just because of the fact, that there's no thermal diode controlling the OC-process, they're are running overclocked all the time and therefore produce the heat-increasement? so basically (i haven't installed the omega-drivers on my desctop-PC and won't try the new ones for sure now), is there an improvement in performance to be found using the 3.8.5 on non-XT cards which might be due to increased clock-speeds?

BMG_Cya=-

Just wanted to express personally, what a considerate and useful thing you did Neon.
You probably helped alot of people and most assuredly dispelled some of the more outrageous
rumors.

Personally, my card never gets hot. I have a probe, and have used it on a very few occasions.
It's also 17.5 degrees Celsius in here (Room Temp.), and never gets above 20.

Each individual's living/gaming environment has a great deal to do with how hot their systems run.
If it's a 100 degrees Farenheit where your computer is, then yes your system will probably run
very hot and may even shut-down on you. Go buy a fan or air conditioner or two or three.

Seems like sometimes there is not alot of common sense out there.

Farooq

Cowboy great work!! I see stock drivers are the best atm..

Omegadrive

Please WaltC, all you are saying are speculations on your part, here is the real deal:
1. The Dell drivers ARE the ATI drivers you normally use in your PC, they are NO DIFFERENT than normal ATI drivers (no special coding and all that BS you are talking there).
2. These drivers where given by ATI to Dell to test their hardware since Dell is a BETA tester for ATI, BUT Dell uploaded them to their FTP by mistake, and they got leaked, but ATI find out soon enough to stop the spreading.
3. I asked Terry if I could do this release using the Dell drivers, he had no problems with that, the only condition was to release them 3 days after that Cat 3.8 release since they where in fact newer than the Cat 3.8.
4. I am an official ATI beta tester.
5. I DO support my drivers, this forum is the proof of it, or Would you like me to foward ALL my support e-mail to you?

Next time you talk, don't do it by "assumptions", know the facts or else STFU.

vulcan4d

Any idea if the leaked driver temperature problem also occurs with a 8500?

Mac Daddy

Wow .. No grey areas there

There are only two types of drivers I respect and support being also an Official ATI Beta tester and meeting Terry face to face. Neither of those 2 would be leaked betas.

Omega I think it was very cool of Terry and ATI to allow you to work with their drivers.
I wish Nvidia would wake up and smell the Demeral
You do great work as I have mentioned before and I respect your alternatives and knowledge.

You bringing up your point as being an Official ATI beta tester should be viewed and considered by others posting on this thread. You have signed NDA's as I have and "leaked" drivers of any sort not only piss me off .. but usually result in an unhappy product owner.

My attitude on leaked drivers is the same as someone I won't name here " Beta drivers are for Beta testing. Not only might these result in an unhappy product owner .. they may cause problems with your system. Leave the BETA's to the official testers thats why Beta testers exist. Doing the hard work so you "the user and consumer" don't have too

Cheers Omega !!!
And nicely said BRO

Zardon

everyone chill out a little please.

Mac Daddy

Agreed .. the forum is for opinions and feedback.
Very calm and cool here and just making some observations ..

As Z... said lets not make this into a big argument .. It is neither constructive or helpful

Edit Note: And includes a "D" DOH !!!! damn my typing skills

Hearst

Thanks for your time Cowboy. Your time and effort is greatly appreciated by me and alot of others out there who questioned these drivers and the heat issues. Thanks again...

sonycrx

it sure is. however some people can't stop "giving off" to all just becuase of certain issue they have.. as yet i have not see anyone post here who has overheating issues that has shown one picture of any test they have done (have they even done tests?)

can someone who is having heat issues with 3.8's please run a similar test to cowboys and my test to even try to discredit us?

please dont just mouth off about dirver. we want to SEE facts. i thought maybe i was having heat issues also but i wasn't and i showed pictures to prove it.

BWX

Just wondering, why didn't you test the Dell drivers?
--Omega 2496b (ATI) (Leaked)--

If you have the equipment and time, could you test these sometime too? I would but don't have a thermal probe --yet... Thanks.

sonycrx

because the initial findings were about 3.8 drivers causing heat problems and not omega leaked ones. as Omegadrive said the Dell ones are exactly the same.

Mac Daddy

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Our attitudes and conclusions sometimes conflict ...

As Z.... said .. lets see this presented in forthright and respectable fashion ..
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BWX

Hmm, why are they hotter then here?

Omegas based on 3.8.5
GPU
[color=red]Idle 47.1
Full Load 55.6[/color]

That's why I wanted to see the difference on someone elses system- to see if they had the same results:-- the "Dell" Omega's being hotter-- I mean if you had it all set up and everything.. But no biggie.

The_Neon_Cowboy

You’re very welcome.

With so much stuff about the Cat 3.8’s issue is flying around, it hard to know what to believe anymore. I have even been scouring other forums (doesn’t happen often) . No one seems to have any real numbers or answers. Some saying the 3.8’s were 15-25C hotter. Some people are saying that there was no difference. People reverting and staying with the cat 3.7’s

Well since no one else has really done much testing on this issues. I took it upon myself, as my duty as a dedicated member of driver heaven, to do what I can.


EDIT: I moved tothis post to the end! so I could add yet another update!!!!!!!!

Ev!L-aLphA

nice dude

tH3 N4GU4L

its funny how ati themselves get readings a few degrees hotter with 3.8 but each system to its own. Neons results still prove 1 thing: some drivers are hotter than others. what would be really great is if ati find out what makes some drivers hotter than others and use that knowledge to make a COOLER driver.

tparker

So what to make of these results wait and only download the Official Drivers makes sense to me.Thanks Cowboy for a job well done my hat's off to you now that you have finished it is time to go pick up clothes up off the floor in front of the Chair we don't like messy Reviewers.LOL

BuddMan

Heh, dunno why everyone got on WaltC's case, he makes a good point and was in no way "bashing" Omega's drivers. Oh well, bias is bias.

BWX

I think it's over now... maybe better if we just leave it alone?

BBThumper

.....amen to that brother........

.....Thks for the info and test run. I like watching this whole thing play out ..................

croker

ive noticed that the cats 3.8 official default the moniter on mine anyway to 85