Sneak peak at forthcoming MSI P35 Platinum mobo

***Zardon*** · May 4, 2007, 09:58 AM

MSI at the end of the month are releasing a new motherboard based on the forthcoming P35 intel chipset.

They have allowed us to post a little taster video showing the board design however we aren't allowed to detail anything else right now!

To view the video, follow this thread from the front page into our forum!

***Zardon*** · May 4, 2007, 10:08 AM

**temeteus82** · May 4, 2007, 10:15 AM

I do hope that those heat pipes won't get too hot to melt insulation from cables. That 12V 8-pin connector is really in dangerous place from my point of view. I would be happy if MSI would move it some where else. Anyway can't wait to see the review.

~~hackerx~~ · May 4, 2007, 12:22 PM

The heat pipes are sick
but this obviously points to the fact that the P35 is a hot running chipset
so overclocking may be hampered

any idea how many sata/usb ports the ICH9 southbridges provide?

***Veridian3*** · May 4, 2007, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hackerx

any idea how many sata/usb ports the ICH9 southbridges provide?

"however we aren't allowed to detail anything else right now"

mike2h · May 4, 2007, 01:35 PM

i know you guys are busy, but would it be possibe to get an overview of the 'bearlake' chipset & its various iterations before the review?
of course i understand you not wanting to repeat yourselves, just having a hard time finding anyhthing really definitive on this chipset.

Lowfat · May 4, 2007, 02:29 PM

The NDA does expire on May 9th correct? Hopefully their P35 'lollercoaster' board will OC better than their other LGA775 offerings.

EDIT: referring to MSI boards.

**temeteus82** · May 4, 2007, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veridian3

"however we aren't allowed to detail anything else right now"

and you can't comment my earlier post, before NDA expires?

Judas · May 4, 2007, 03:34 PM

Bout time someone came up with a more AREA use for chipset heatsinks and thought 3 demensionally.

the only issue i foressee is that users with massive heatsinks aren't going to be jumping and happy when they try to install either the heatsink (to big) or can't get there hands in there to push the clips down into place.

Lowfat · May 4, 2007, 03:51 PM

I wish more manufacturers would go the non silly heatpipe route like DFI. Just use a simple heatsink and fan if possible.

Judas · May 4, 2007, 04:07 PM

A simple heatsink and fan would be nice for oem or manufacturer or typical users (non overclockers or moders for that matter, or those unlikely to load the system to the max with hardware and other things).

But this MSI board would be something that i would like.

Sandok · May 4, 2007, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowfat

I wish more manufacturers would go the non silly heatpipe route like DFI. Just use a simple heatsink and fan if possible.

Oh no I hate that... Heatsink if possible but for the love of god, destroy those 40-60mm fans forever!

Lowfat · May 4, 2007, 04:28 PM

sorry i meant a small fan if needed. Those silly heatpipes are useless. DFI has never used any silly heatpipes that connect all the chips + mosfets and they generally have the best overclocking boards out there. I actually wish manufacturers would provide mobo's without any heatsinks, just so i could use my own. And not have to cut all the heatpipes like i do on my motherboards because it is impossible to remove them otherwise....

PangingJr · May 4, 2007, 04:32 PM

Gigabyte and Asus will also have plenty of heatpipes cooled and heatsinks on their new Intel chipset boards if they releases the retail version of the board that are having same design as the review version i've seen on the internet.

Erroneus · May 4, 2007, 06:20 PM

The white power-plug at the top left seems a bit "crammed" with those pipes running almost on top of it.

Sandok · May 4, 2007, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowfat

sorry i meant a small fan if needed. Those silly heatpipes are useless. DFI has never used any silly heatpipes that connect all the chips + mosfets and they generally have the best overclocking boards out there. I actually wish manufacturers would provide mobo's without any heatsinks, just so i could use my own. And not have to cut all the heatpipes like i do on my motherboards because it is impossible to remove them otherwise....

DFI haven't made a new board in a long time and I'm sure with the newer boards, which make way more heat than the old ones, they'd either go for the accursed fan + haetskink or silent heatpipe mode... There's a reason Mobo companies are spending more on heatpipes, it ain't just for show

Personally silence is important for me, and I love my fanless mobo

(Though I don't have heatpipes

)

Lowfat · May 4, 2007, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandok

DFI haven't made a new board in a long time and I'm sure with the newer boards, which make way more heat than the old ones, they'd either go for the accursed fan + haetskink or silent heatpipe mode... There's a reason Mobo companies are spending more on heatpipes, it ain't just for show

Personally silence is important for me, and I love my fanless mobo

(Though I don't have heatpipes

)

DFI hasn't made a new board in a long time? How about their P965, n680i, and RD600 boards all released in the last 4 months. All of which don't have excessive heatpipes going everywhere, and all of which will do 500FSB on stock cooling. Heatpipes are a good idea, but most motherboard manufactureres use very cheap heatpipes that don't even use a wick inside the pipe. So yes, the heatpipes are mostly for show

. Most people think more heatpipes = better.

brutusmaximus · May 4, 2007, 07:41 PM

Nothing wrong with good heatpipe design, if it is handled and designed correctly. I would much rather have a good heatpipe design with the option of mounting my own 120mm fan on a swinging arm over the mobo than be stuck out of the box with some crap ass 40-60mm fan combo which is loud and pushes no CFM over the important parts. Then they fail in 6 months time leaving you with no fan and a crap tiny heatsink design.

Some heatpipe designs might suck, however equally so I have yet to see a good fan included with a motherboard.

Almost all die hard overclockers have internal fans even those guys who run 500fsb+ on boards would have some additional cooling over the mofsets. Those who don't quite often end up with dead boards months down the line.

I also wouldn't rate DFI as the "benchmark" for the "fan is better principal". A colleague of mine works in the industry and their fail rate in the last year has been appalling.

BWX · May 4, 2007, 07:47 PM

trippy

~~hackerx~~ · May 4, 2007, 11:49 PM

i wud really like to see DFI's version of the P35 and X38
but as usual they'll always be late to the party
they just released their P965 infinity and nforce 680i motherboard recently
that is long after the competition
the boards may very well be better,but they really ought to get them out with the competition

Lowfat · May 5, 2007, 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hackerx

i wud really like to see DFI's version of the P35 and X38
but as usual they'll always be late to the party
they just released their P965 infinity and nforce 680i motherboard recently
that is long after the competition
the boards may very well be better,but they really ought to get them out with the competition

agreed.

zerodamage · May 5, 2007, 11:40 AM

I hope these boards and chipset are worth the wait. I have everything I need for my new system minus the motherboard and video card. I am waiting to see which video card is best worth my money and the mobo chipset that goes best with it (Nvidia for Nvidia or Intel for ATI). My patience is growing thin.

zerodamage · May 5, 2007, 11:50 AM

Interesting. It seems some places are actually selling these boards now. Too bad I do not live in the UK.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/produc...id=5&subid=913

Lowfat · May 5, 2007, 01:26 PM

Ya I've seen a couple of people buy retail boards on different forums. Don't know how those places haven't gotten in to trouble.

emmi · May 5, 2007, 02:44 PM

I must say I like the GA-P35-DQ6 alot better.

Sandok · May 5, 2007, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowfat

DFI hasn't made a new board in a long time? How about their P965, n680i, and RD600 boards all released in the last 4 months. All of which don't have excessive heatpipes going everywhere, and all of which will do 500FSB on stock cooling. Heatpipes are a good idea, but most motherboard manufactureres use very cheap heatpipes that don't even use a wick inside the pipe. So yes, the heatpipes are mostly for show

. Most people think more heatpipes = better.

Wow really all those boards? I haven't even had a wiff of em... Not even seen a pic or review anywhere. Strange, I'm usually quite up to date on these sorta things.

Anyways, DFI have never used heatpipes but all the premium boards from all the major successful companies (looking at Asus, Gigabyte, Abit/MSI here), all those super heatpipe solutions, from what I know and have seen, are a godsend

Lowfat · May 5, 2007, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emmi

I must say I like the GA-P35-DQ6 alot better.

Asus P5K's look pretty good too so far. Either the DQ6 or the P5K will be choice, really just matter whatever is available first.

emmi · May 5, 2007, 04:56 PM

Also from what I heard from a local distributor here in Iceland the Gigabyte's P35 will sport a whopping 6yr warranty.

brutusmaximus · May 5, 2007, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emmi

Also from what I heard from a local distributor here in Iceland the Gigabyte's P35 will sport a whopping 6yr warranty.

With the frequency Intel change their chipsets it will be replaced in 6 months max anyway.

CDsDontBurn · May 5, 2007, 07:28 PM

the board doesn't look that impressive IMO. my opinion on that is because of the heat pipe design.

now, why is everybody anticipating this board again? is it only because of the ICH9 southbridge?

May 4, 2007, 09:58 AM	#1
*Zardon* lifeless Join Date: May 2002 Location: Driverheaven Posts: 31,959 Rep Power: 3148	Sneak peak at forthcoming MSI P35 Platinum mobo MSI at the end of the month are releasing a new motherboard based on the forthcoming P35 intel chipset. They have allowed us to post a little taster video showing the board design however we aren't allowed to detail anything else right now! To view the video, follow this thread from the front page into our forum!

May 4, 2007, 01:35 PM	#6
mike2h DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: norcal Posts: 6,489 Rep Power: 74 System Specs	i know you guys are busy, but would it be possibe to get an overview of the 'bearlake' chipset & its various iterations before the review? of course i understand you not wanting to repeat yourselves, just having a hard time finding anyhthing really definitive on this chipset. __________________

May 4, 2007, 02:29 PM	#7
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 3,932 Rep Power: 57	The NDA does expire on May 9th correct? Hopefully their P35 'lollercoaster' board will OC better than their other LGA775 offerings. EDIT: referring to MSI boards. __________________ i7 920 @ 4.2GHz * EX58-UD5 * 6GB @ 1600MHz * (2) XFX HD4890 * (4) X25-M RAID0 * Enermax Revo 85+ 1050W * Silverstone FT01BW Q8200 @ 3GHz * P5Q Pro* 4GB @ 878MHz * 9500GT * Auzen Prelude * 30GB Vertex * 11.5TB * Seasonic 420 M12-II * Silverstone LC17B * LG GGC-H20L Last edited by Lowfat; May 4, 2007 at 02:34 PM.

May 4, 2007, 03:51 PM	#10
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 3,932 Rep Power: 57	I wish more manufacturers would go the non silly heatpipe route like DFI. Just use a simple heatsink and fan if possible. __________________ i7 920 @ 4.2GHz * EX58-UD5 * 6GB @ 1600MHz * (2) XFX HD4890 * (4) X25-M RAID0 * Enermax Revo 85+ 1050W * Silverstone FT01BW Q8200 @ 3GHz * P5Q Pro* 4GB @ 878MHz * 9500GT * Auzen Prelude * 30GB Vertex * 11.5TB * Seasonic 420 M12-II * Silverstone LC17B * LG GGC-H20L

May 4, 2007, 04:28 PM	#13
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 3,932 Rep Power: 57	sorry i meant a small fan if needed. Those silly heatpipes are useless. DFI has never used any silly heatpipes that connect all the chips + mosfets and they generally have the best overclocking boards out there. I actually wish manufacturers would provide mobo's without any heatsinks, just so i could use my own. And not have to cut all the heatpipes like i do on my motherboards because it is impossible to remove them otherwise.... __________________ i7 920 @ 4.2GHz * EX58-UD5 * 6GB @ 1600MHz * (2) XFX HD4890 * (4) X25-M RAID0 * Enermax Revo 85+ 1050W * Silverstone FT01BW Q8200 @ 3GHz * P5Q Pro* 4GB @ 878MHz * 9500GT * Auzen Prelude * 30GB Vertex * 11.5TB * Seasonic 420 M12-II * Silverstone LC17B * LG GGC-H20L

May 4, 2007, 10:08 AM	#2
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May 4, 2007, 12:22 PM	#4
~~hackerx~~ Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 495 Rep Power: 0	The heat pipes are sick but this obviously points to the fact that the P35 is a hot running chipset so overclocking may be hampered any idea how many sata/usb ports the ICH9 southbridges provide?

May 4, 2007, 04:32 PM	#14
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 55	Gigabyte and Asus will also have plenty of heatpipes cooled and heatsinks on their new Intel chipset boards if they releases the retail version of the board that are having same design as the review version i've seen on the internet.

May 4, 2007, 06:20 PM	#15
Erroneus Loving my Windows 7 Ent. Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 12,914 Rep Power: 76 System Specs	The white power-plug at the top left seems a bit "crammed" with those pipes running almost on top of it. __________________

May 4, 2007, 07:41 PM	#18
brutusmaximus DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 524 Rep Power: 59	Nothing wrong with good heatpipe design, if it is handled and designed correctly. I would much rather have a good heatpipe design with the option of mounting my own 120mm fan on a swinging arm over the mobo than be stuck out of the box with some crap ass 40-60mm fan combo which is loud and pushes no CFM over the important parts. Then they fail in 6 months time leaving you with no fan and a crap tiny heatsink design. Some heatpipe designs might suck, however equally so I have yet to see a good fan included with a motherboard. Almost all die hard overclockers have internal fans even those guys who run 500fsb+ on boards would have some additional cooling over the mofsets. Those who don't quite often end up with dead boards months down the line. I also wouldn't rate DFI as the "benchmark" for the "fan is better principal". A colleague of mine works in the industry and their fail rate in the last year has been appalling. __________________

May 4, 2007, 07:47 PM	#19
BWX Spinal Tapped Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,559 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	trippy __________________ One Big Ass Mistake America

May 4, 2007, 11:49 PM	#20
~~hackerx~~ Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 495 Rep Power: 0	i wud really like to see DFI's version of the P35 and X38 but as usual they'll always be late to the party they just released their P965 infinity and nforce 680i motherboard recently that is long after the competition the boards may very well be better,but they really ought to get them out with the competition

May 5, 2007, 11:40 AM	#22
zerodamage DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 3,574 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I hope these boards and chipset are worth the wait. I have everything I need for my new system minus the motherboard and video card. I am waiting to see which video card is best worth my money and the mobo chipset that goes best with it (Nvidia for Nvidia or Intel for ATI). My patience is growing thin.

May 5, 2007, 11:50 AM	#23
zerodamage DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 3,574 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Interesting. It seems some places are actually selling these boards now. Too bad I do not live in the UK. http://www.overclockers.co.uk/produc...id=5&subid=913

May 5, 2007, 01:26 PM	#24
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 3,932 Rep Power: 57	Ya I've seen a couple of people buy retail boards on different forums. Don't know how those places haven't gotten in to trouble. __________________ i7 920 @ 4.2GHz * EX58-UD5 * 6GB @ 1600MHz * (2) XFX HD4890 * (4) X25-M RAID0 * Enermax Revo 85+ 1050W * Silverstone FT01BW Q8200 @ 3GHz * P5Q Pro* 4GB @ 878MHz * 9500GT * Auzen Prelude * 30GB Vertex * 11.5TB * Seasonic 420 M12-II * Silverstone LC17B * LG GGC-H20L

May 5, 2007, 02:44 PM	#25
emmi Driverheaven Mirror Provider Join Date: May 2003 Location: Iceland Posts: 78 Rep Power: 0	I must say I like the GA-P35-DQ6 alot better. __________________ PSX.is

May 5, 2007, 04:56 PM	#28
emmi Driverheaven Mirror Provider Join Date: May 2003 Location: Iceland Posts: 78 Rep Power: 0	Also from what I heard from a local distributor here in Iceland the Gigabyte's P35 will sport a whopping 6yr warranty. __________________ PSX.is

May 5, 2007, 07:28 PM	#30
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