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This is the monitor I have:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824179005

It is a HYUNDAI L70S. There just seems to be one thing I have always noticed about monitors for PC's, their colors are never NEARLY as vibrant as a regular tube TV. I can set the colors on my monitor to full blast, it does not seemt o do much besides birghtening certain colors out of proportion. I say this because I once noticed that my Xbox version of Halo, seemes to display MUCH more vibrant and "pretty" colors than my PC version of Halo. I then decided to hook my TV up to my video card and see how it looked on there. I found it wasn't the game, it was the displays. My old Panasonic Magnavox twenty something inch TV displayed much more beautiful colors then my brand new LCD monitor. And this seams to be the case with any monitor I look at actually.

I just want to know if there is a way to change this? I have already tried increasing the color through my Catalyst control panel, doesnt seem to help, just makes everything extremely bright when adjusting the R, G, and B to the highest. I simply want to make the colors on my monitor as full and vibrant as I think they should be. It is not an issue with the monitor itself, as my monitor diaplys the Windows desktop with the same color amount as any monitor I have seen. I am basicly in need of a software solution that could make my colors more vibrant, because the hardware controls cant seem to do anything.

I apologize if this may be in the wrong place, but I didn't see another suitable place for this. Thanks all




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no one knows?

[Tipstaff]

Well, thing is that LCD monitors, while they do give sharper and brighter picture (more so if you are using DVI cable since then you would be displaying a pure digital picture, and not a converted analog one), they don't display colors as accurate, and rich as CRTs (by that I mean as brilliant and as pure as it should be). This also includes TV sets as they too are CRT, or tube displays. However, even CRT/TVs have to be tweaked for proper color. It takes some tweaking to set LCDs up to be as close to RGB true color, and between settings within Windows (whether it be Nvidias or ATIs color settings), and monitor settings you can get close. This is why there are other programs, such as Liquid Color, and hardware calibrators such as LaCies 321 to make things easier, and more accurate.

I would suggest giving the articles on Viewsonics page HERE a read for more on the basics of LCDs/CRTs, plus the advantages to both. Should help you understand the differences a bit more.

-Tip

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Well yes, I do of course now know that LCD's and CRT TV's are very different. Unfortunetaly the LCD I have does not provide any settings to boost the color, whether it be accurate or not. I will look at that Liquid Color program you spoke of to try and fix the colors to be more vibrant. Though I did use a program before, don't recall what it is called, but my friend gave it to me from his Nvidia driver CD, and it was supposed to make the colors better, but after calibrating with it, it made everything hazy blue and very bad looking. My friend with the Nvidia can adjust his "Color Vibrance" through his Advanced settings, while I only seem to be able to adjust my "Color Gamma", he said he can use his to adjust and make his colors much more vibrant like his CRT TV, but when I adjust mine, it just makes everything brighter without actually changing how strong the colors are like I want. Maybe there is a program that let's me adjust the color vibrance like his, and works for D3D game display too, as my ATi Control Center does not seem to provide the features to do this very well. Thank you




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EDIT-Argh, I wish they would let me download a trial of the software or something, I won't spend $40 on something that isn't even going to help the way I want it to.

[swimtech]

Accurate color is a question of balance...

I can just about guarantee that the color on your LCD is more "accurate" than your television - but I think the real question here is about the level of color you want to see. CRTs can display a wider range of color saturation than LCDs can. CRTs (expecially in TVs) can be grossly overdriven, LCDs generally cannot - and that has to do with how colors are created by each of the two different technologies. CRTs make color with glowing phosphors, LCDs create colors by refracting/reflecting a source of light - very different.

You can calibrate your display devices using a known good source (should be the same source for both devices - a DVD would serve well enough...) that displays standard color bars with a pluge (black bars - usually three) pattern.

For accuracy, basically, what you would do is turn off the color and adjust the brightness and contrast levels first by viewing the pluge pattern with the color bars. You would then adjust the color saturation and hue (viewing through a special blue filter) so that the color bars look balanced one against the other. Highly detailed instructions are available here

http://myweb.accessus.net/~090/how2adj.html


and with the DVD and filter you could purchase.

I'm not aware of any software that allows you to adjust the color of the monitor beyond the capabilities built into the driver - as in the ATI Control Panel - sorry...

Edit: I own A Video Standard laserdisc and a good laserdisc player and have been through the routine a number of times for my own TV sets, in addition to seeing literally thousands of CRT based TVs and monitors - and adjusting them for accuracy. By my eye, LCDs look very accurate out of the box, CRTs generally require more adjustment out of the box to be accurate - but for some, adjustability is a plus, which is why most folks in broadcast television, high end graphics designers, and photographers who do digital retouching of photos using computers still use CRTs.

And, sometimes - accuracy isn't the issue - you just want it to be really colorful! A CRT is the way to go for that.

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Well yes then what I would have needed was something to make my color saturation higher. And the settings/control panel for ATi allows no such adjustment, which is a bit disspaointing. What I want is very innacurate then, but I do like more saturation in my colors on video games. I wish ATi would add a feature to it's drivers for such an adjustment. Buying a CRT monitor to compensate is something I will probably not do. Before I abandon this though, I would like to make sure no one knows of any possible way to boost the saturation my monitor displays. I have a Radeon 9800 Pro 256MB Retail at stock speeds by the way. Thanks for all the help guys



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