Computer Wont Boot - Does Not Beep

war59312 · Nov 14, 2002, 09:02 PM

Well my computer wont boot. It does not beep. I know that is bad. So I'm thinking the motherboard is fucked. This would be the second one, from the same company. lol

Starting to piss me off though cause I really want it to work.

Anyone know what could cause this.

I think its the system bus but I'm not sure. Been told that it normally means the board (system bus) is shot if it does not beep.

Please help me guys,
Thanks A Lot,
Will

~~DriveEuro~~ · Nov 14, 2002, 11:59 PM

take a look at you jumpers on the board...make sure that they are all correct....i dunno, seems logical to me.

war59312 · Nov 15, 2002, 08:25 AM

Yes they are all correct. Damn it.

fornicatarachnid · Nov 15, 2002, 01:30 PM

Im no expert but according to this page it sounds like its probably either your PSU or the motherboard

UberLord · Nov 15, 2002, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by war59312

Well my computer wont boot. It does not beep. I know that is bad. So I'm thinking the motherboard is fucked. This would be the second one, from the same company. lol

Does the speaker actually work?

war59312 · Nov 15, 2002, 06:12 PM

Speaker? What speaker? This is my first time doing this but I know everything is done right. I hope you dont mean regluar speakers. lol

~~DriveEuro~~ · Nov 15, 2002, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by war59312
Speaker? What speaker? This is my first time doing this but I know everything is done right. I hope you dont mean regluar speakers. lol

The PC speaker mounted in the case itself...The thing that "beeps" in your words.

war59312 · Nov 15, 2002, 06:34 PM

oh does that normally come with the case?

fornicatarachnid · Nov 15, 2002, 06:40 PM

If your puter isn't booting it's unlikely to be the speaker at fault anyway, but for your info there is always a small speaker built into the case to provide the 'beeps' before the system starts up.

war59312 · Nov 15, 2002, 06:46 PM

oh ok cool and um no the speak never peeps then since the computer does nothing...i mean the power works and everything...all the fans work...cd rom drives opens and closes and everything...grahpic card..sure it works..fan is going on the geforce2...

~~DriveEuro~~ · Nov 15, 2002, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by war59312
oh ok cool and um no the speak never peeps then since the computer does nothing...i mean the power works and everything...all the fans work...cd rom drives opens and closes and everything...grahpic card..sure it works..fan is going on the geforce2...

Um, did you flash the bios yet? You need to flash the bios once you first start up.

war59312 · Nov 16, 2002, 03:50 PM

How can I do that if I cant see anything on the screen?

fornicatarachnid · Nov 16, 2002, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by war59312
How can I do that if I cant see anything on the screen?

lol good question

...... Over to you, DriveEuro

Matth · Nov 16, 2002, 05:09 PM

Try the reset button! - sometimes you get a fault in the power-on reset, or even the reset button gets knocked and jammed in.
If you're fitting a motherboard, recheck the case connectors to the motherboard - one of those in the wrong postion, shorting out the reset, and it would be locked up - that is also where the case speaker connection should be!

One thing......

Are we talking "It worked before, now it doesn't, I didn't do anything"
Or "I changed something, now it doesn't work"
Or "It never worked"

"The second one"...
What? complete machine, or just the motherboard, as if replacing a motherboards does not bring relief, the fault is probably something else - and if replacing a machine does not bring relief, the fault is in their quality control!

If it's the same CPU, the CPU could be shot - Athlon's are particularly vulnerable to damage during heatsink mounting!

war59312 · Nov 18, 2002, 02:08 PM

It never worked. This is a new system I'm building. Yes I know about the CPU. I was very carefull and follwed their dirrections excatly like they said. Almost a "clean room".

So it better not be the CPU.

Matth · Nov 18, 2002, 03:17 PM

Another thought, maybe it doesn't like your graphics card!

I had that with a Savage2000 (AGP)

PCI cards usually don't suffer the same kind of incompatibility, always worth having something basic to use for testing!

war59312 · Nov 18, 2002, 06:44 PM

I already tried a geforce2 256 DDR and three different PCI cards. lol Same thing with all of them.

I'm getting another board from a friend soon to make sure it is not my cpu.

~~DriveEuro~~ · Nov 18, 2002, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by war59312
I already tried a geforce2 256 DDR and three different PCI cards. lol Same thing with all of them. I'm getting another board from a friend soon to make sure it is not my cpu.

Why not just try to boot up without the CPU....Maybe it will beep at you...that might help? Maybe it beeps saying that there is no CPU....just a thought...Although my mobo won't beep if a CPU is absent.

war59312 · Nov 18, 2002, 07:55 PM

Hey, ok will try later when i get home.

Matth · Nov 19, 2002, 08:03 AM

@DriveEuro - you are EVIL! - not sure that any board will do anything with no CPU - I'm sure it's the CPU that enables it to beep...

My "gut feeling" - the CPU IS blown, either that, or the case connectors are on wrongly, and the reset is being shorted.
While thinking, you may also have connected something incorrectly to the SLEEP control.

One warning, a friend had a faulty power supply once - it took out a motherboard, and the replacement!

I presume you've already pulled all drive data and power cables, and all cards other than video, so the absolute basic is then:

1. Case/PSU (possible problems, PSU fault, sharting/stuck case switches for reset or ATX softpower - or SLEEP)
2. Motherboard (they can be dud/damaged - the forest of 2/3/4 way headers for case connecters is a source of hassle also)
3. The RAM - though bad/no RAM usually results in a beep code
4. The CPU
5. The video card (though multiple examples seem to rule this out)

If 2 or more parts are faulty - or maybe damaging each other, then you can substitute single ones for ever more....

war59312 · Nov 20, 2002, 01:23 PM

I've tried everything now thought I can. New memory, video card, and shit. Dont have another cpu to test or board. Hoping friend will hlep me out this weekend. To test the cpu. Yea nothing happens without the cpu. Oh and yea i've tried three new power supplys. two 350 and even a 300 for the hell of it. Nothing . Same with everything. I think the system bus is fucked up. Damn mother board. Second one too.

reno · Nov 21, 2002, 10:54 AM

I think your processor is fried. BUT try disconnecting all external USB connectors...just boot with ONLY the processor, memory and video card...no drives, nothing. And see if that works.

If your PC speaker connection is backwards, which it could be, it may cause your board not to boot also...try disconnecting all motherboard wires except for the power on one.

If that STILL doesn't work, your processor is DOA.

Matth · Nov 21, 2002, 01:14 PM

One other "non-boot" that I remember, at a computer club...

The CPU fan spun for 2 seconds, then stopped - at each try.

Since we had some spare odds and ends, we hooked a spare PSU up..... hit the power button - a bit more activity, followed by SMOKE!

A wire had broken off the case speaker (from the 5v side) and was shorting to the case - the original PSU shut down, the second was not so clever!

If you can see the case speaker (often fitted in the bottom), make sure this hasn't happened to you!

There tend to be 3 types of "speaker" for the beep....
1. On-board squeaker - regonizable as it's round (cylindrical), plastic, and has a pencil-point sized hole in the top.
2. Same thing, with a 2 wire, wide spaced pin header, device itself concealed in case front panel plastic.
3. Real loudspeaker in case metalwork, connector as in (2)

Desert_Siege · Dec 11, 2002, 12:52 AM

I put a system together for a friend and could not get it to display crap. Everything powered on, stayed running, but no video and no beep. I checked, double checked and checked again. Couldn't find any jumper setting wrong........except one. After two hours of fighting it, I finally found that the board was shipped to me with the Clear CMOS jumper in the CLear position, not the normal position. Moved the jumper to normal and it booted and worked fine. I was really afraid I had fried it, but it was good to go after moving it. I just hope its that simple for you. That is the first and only board I have ever gotten that had the Clear CMOS jumper in that position and I have bought more than a hundred boards, but you can bet your ass I check it everytime now...lol

Dec 15, 2002, 01:21 PM

This could be many things but im quite sure its power or short related.

Try this:

Start the rig with ONLY the Vidcard and cpu and ram.

This way it may boot to the bios at least.

If it doesnt boot your down to only 4 possibilties.

One the cpu
Two the mobo
Three the ram
four the PSU

Now since you have tested with RAM,VIDCARD,and PSU all i see left is the damn MOBO.

But if it does boot up with only the above components you can start plugging and booting up the rest one by one till it wont boot
and you find the reason for your problems.

Exmpl: A harddrive or Cd-rom motor may fail causing a short too.

One more question and dont take it as an insult cause i didnt see what your putting on that rig.

Ok are you by any chance trying to mount a P4 cpu on an older psu that doesnt have the extra power connector ?

It may help if we could see all the specs/components your trying to use.

Also a few points more.

When MATTH said a maybe damaged AMD he meant cracked from
the pressure when mounting the Heatsink.

Second it doesnt mean your vidcard is working just cause you see its fan moving(the fan is on the12volt rail).

If your using a small PSU (like a 200 or 230 V/A) it may not be enough.

Last...NEVER BE SO SURE THAT YOU DID IT ALL RIGHT IF THIS IS YOUR FIRST PC ASSEMBLY...........................EVEN THE ONES THAT HAVE DONE IT 1000 TIMES MAKE MISTAKES.

My sincere suggestion is to take it to an expert at least this first time and if possible watch him work cause if you did something wrong it may have damaged something.

Goodluck

Nov 14, 2002, 09:02 PM	#1
war59312 God Bless The U.S.A Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 101 Rep Power: 0	Computer Wont Boot - Does Not Beep Well my computer wont boot. It does not beep. I know that is bad. So I'm thinking the motherboard is fucked. This would be the second one, from the same company. lol Starting to piss me off though cause I really want it to work. Anyone know what could cause this. I think its the system bus but I'm not sure. Been told that it normally means the board (system bus) is shot if it does not beep. Please help me guys, Thanks A Lot, Will __________________ God Bless The U.S.A Thank You For Your Support.

Nov 15, 2002, 08:25 AM	#3
war59312 God Bless The U.S.A Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 101 Rep Power: 0	Yes they are all correct. Damn it. __________________ God Bless The U.S.A Thank You For Your Support.

Nov 15, 2002, 06:12 PM	#6
war59312 God Bless The U.S.A Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 101 Rep Power: 0	Speaker? What speaker? This is my first time doing this but I know everything is done right. I hope you dont mean regluar speakers. lol __________________ God Bless The U.S.A Thank You For Your Support.

Nov 15, 2002, 06:34 PM	#8
war59312 God Bless The U.S.A Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 101 Rep Power: 0	oh does that normally come with the case? __________________ God Bless The U.S.A Thank You For Your Support.

Nov 15, 2002, 06:46 PM	#10
war59312 God Bless The U.S.A Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 101 Rep Power: 0	oh ok cool and um no the speak never peeps then since the computer does nothing...i mean the power works and everything...all the fans work...cd rom drives opens and closes and everything...grahpic card..sure it works..fan is going on the geforce2... __________________ God Bless The U.S.A Thank You For Your Support.

Nov 14, 2002, 11:59 PM	#2
~~DriveEuro~~ Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	take a look at you jumpers on the board...make sure that they are all correct....i dunno, seems logical to me.

Nov 15, 2002, 01:30 PM	#4
fornicatarachnid Clanless Join Date: May 2002 Location: On the web, England UK Posts: 714 Rep Power: 0	Im no expert but according to this page it sounds like its probably either your PSU or the motherboard

Nov 15, 2002, 06:40 PM	#9
fornicatarachnid Clanless Join Date: May 2002 Location: On the web, England UK Posts: 714 Rep Power: 0	If your puter isn't booting it's unlikely to be the speaker at fault anyway, but for your info there is always a small speaker built into the case to provide the 'beeps' before the system starts up.

Nov 16, 2002, 03:50 PM	#12
war59312 God Bless The U.S.A Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 101 Rep Power: 0	How can I do that if I cant see anything on the screen? __________________ God Bless The U.S.A Thank You For Your Support.

Nov 16, 2002, 05:09 PM	#14
Matth Flash Banner Hater Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: UK Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	Try the reset button! - sometimes you get a fault in the power-on reset, or even the reset button gets knocked and jammed in. If you're fitting a motherboard, recheck the case connectors to the motherboard - one of those in the wrong postion, shorting out the reset, and it would be locked up - that is also where the case speaker connection should be! One thing...... Are we talking "It worked before, now it doesn't, I didn't do anything" Or "I changed something, now it doesn't work" Or "It never worked" "The second one"... What? complete machine, or just the motherboard, as if replacing a motherboards does not bring relief, the fault is probably something else - and if replacing a machine does not bring relief, the fault is in their quality control! If it's the same CPU, the CPU could be shot - Athlon's are particularly vulnerable to damage during heatsink mounting!

Nov 18, 2002, 02:08 PM	#15
war59312 God Bless The U.S.A Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 101 Rep Power: 0	It never worked. This is a new system I'm building. Yes I know about the CPU. I was very carefull and follwed their dirrections excatly like they said. Almost a "clean room". So it better not be the CPU. __________________ God Bless The U.S.A Thank You For Your Support.

Nov 18, 2002, 03:17 PM	#16
Matth Flash Banner Hater Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: UK Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	Another thought, maybe it doesn't like your graphics card! I had that with a Savage2000 (AGP) PCI cards usually don't suffer the same kind of incompatibility, always worth having something basic to use for testing!

Nov 18, 2002, 06:44 PM	#17
war59312 God Bless The U.S.A Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 101 Rep Power: 0	I already tried a geforce2 256 DDR and three different PCI cards. lol Same thing with all of them. I'm getting another board from a friend soon to make sure it is not my cpu. __________________ God Bless The U.S.A Thank You For Your Support.

Nov 18, 2002, 07:55 PM	#19
war59312 God Bless The U.S.A Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 101 Rep Power: 0	Hey, ok will try later when i get home. __________________ God Bless The U.S.A Thank You For Your Support.

Nov 19, 2002, 08:03 AM	#20
Matth Flash Banner Hater Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: UK Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	@DriveEuro - you are EVIL! - not sure that any board will do anything with no CPU - I'm sure it's the CPU that enables it to beep... My "gut feeling" - the CPU IS blown, either that, or the case connectors are on wrongly, and the reset is being shorted. While thinking, you may also have connected something incorrectly to the SLEEP control. One warning, a friend had a faulty power supply once - it took out a motherboard, and the replacement! I presume you've already pulled all drive data and power cables, and all cards other than video, so the absolute basic is then: 1. Case/PSU (possible problems, PSU fault, sharting/stuck case switches for reset or ATX softpower - or SLEEP) 2. Motherboard (they can be dud/damaged - the forest of 2/3/4 way headers for case connecters is a source of hassle also) 3. The RAM - though bad/no RAM usually results in a beep code 4. The CPU 5. The video card (though multiple examples seem to rule this out) If 2 or more parts are faulty - or maybe damaging each other, then you can substitute single ones for ever more....

Nov 20, 2002, 01:23 PM	#21
war59312 God Bless The U.S.A Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 101 Rep Power: 0	I've tried everything now thought I can. New memory, video card, and shit. Dont have another cpu to test or board. Hoping friend will hlep me out this weekend. To test the cpu. Yea nothing happens without the cpu. Oh and yea i've tried three new power supplys. two 350 and even a 300 for the hell of it. Nothing . Same with everything. I think the system bus is fucked up. Damn mother board. Second one too. __________________ God Bless The U.S.A Thank You For Your Support.

Nov 21, 2002, 10:54 AM	#22
reno Painlord of Ichor Join Date: May 2002 Location: bloinkin! Posts: 1,611 Rep Power: 0	gdh I think your processor is fried. BUT try disconnecting all external USB connectors...just boot with ONLY the processor, memory and video card...no drives, nothing. And see if that works. If your PC speaker connection is backwards, which it could be, it may cause your board not to boot also...try disconnecting all motherboard wires except for the power on one. If that STILL doesn't work, your processor is DOA.

Nov 21, 2002, 01:14 PM	#23
Matth Flash Banner Hater Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: UK Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	One other "non-boot" that I remember, at a computer club... The CPU fan spun for 2 seconds, then stopped - at each try. Since we had some spare odds and ends, we hooked a spare PSU up..... hit the power button - a bit more activity, followed by SMOKE! A wire had broken off the case speaker (from the 5v side) and was shorting to the case - the original PSU shut down, the second was not so clever! If you can see the case speaker (often fitted in the bottom), make sure this hasn't happened to you! There tend to be 3 types of "speaker" for the beep.... 1. On-board squeaker - regonizable as it's round (cylindrical), plastic, and has a pencil-point sized hole in the top. 2. Same thing, with a 2 wire, wide spaced pin header, device itself concealed in case front panel plastic. 3. Real loudspeaker in case metalwork, connector as in (2)

Dec 11, 2002, 12:52 AM	#24
Desert_Siege Professional Slacker Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: KY Posts: 274 Rep Power: 0	I had this happen to me once....kind of embarassing.. I put a system together for a friend and could not get it to display crap. Everything powered on, stayed running, but no video and no beep. I checked, double checked and checked again. Couldn't find any jumper setting wrong........except one. After two hours of fighting it, I finally found that the board was shipped to me with the Clear CMOS jumper in the CLear position, not the normal position. Moved the jumper to normal and it booted and worked fine. I was really afraid I had fried it, but it was good to go after moving it. I just hope its that simple for you. That is the first and only board I have ever gotten that had the Clear CMOS jumper in that position and I have bought more than a hundred boards, but you can bet your ass I check it everytime now...lol

Dec 15, 2002, 01:21 PM	#25
GREEKRAGE Guest Posts: n/a	This could be many things but im quite sure its power or short related. Try this: Start the rig with ONLY the Vidcard and cpu and ram. This way it may boot to the bios at least. If it doesnt boot your down to only 4 possibilties. One the cpu Two the mobo Three the ram four the PSU Now since you have tested with RAM,VIDCARD,and PSU all i see left is the damn MOBO. But if it does boot up with only the above components you can start plugging and booting up the rest one by one till it wont boot and you find the reason for your problems. Exmpl: A harddrive or Cd-rom motor may fail causing a short too. One more question and dont take it as an insult cause i didnt see what your putting on that rig. Ok are you by any chance trying to mount a P4 cpu on an older psu that doesnt have the extra power connector ? It may help if we could see all the specs/components your trying to use. Also a few points more. When MATTH said a maybe damaged AMD he meant cracked from the pressure when mounting the Heatsink. Second it doesnt mean your vidcard is working just cause you see its fan moving(the fan is on the12volt rail). If your using a small PSU (like a 200 or 230 V/A) it may not be enough. Last...NEVER BE SO SURE THAT YOU DID IT ALL RIGHT IF THIS IS YOUR FIRST PC ASSEMBLY...........................EVEN THE ONES THAT HAVE DONE IT 1000 TIMES MAKE MISTAKES. My sincere suggestion is to take it to an expert at least this first time and if possible watch him work cause if you did something wrong it may have damaged something. Goodluck