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Old Nov 4, 2004, 06:08 PM   #1
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amd 64 or amd 64fx

going to upgrade my pc again looking at msi k8n neo2 plat motherboard.deciding which cpu to get amd 64 or amd 64-fx.price wise big differance.is there a differance between the two .getting a x800xt pe soon.so lm deciding 64 or 64fx.is there a benfit to gettting 64fx over 64 or is ther not that much of differance
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Old Nov 4, 2004, 06:27 PM   #2
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There is a difference in favor of the FX, but it's not nearly enough to justify the difference. Unless money is no object to you...
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Old Nov 4, 2004, 06:38 PM   #3
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cheers bug.about 400 euros more
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Old Nov 5, 2004, 12:53 AM   #4
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Get the regular A64.
dipstick had this to say, after switching from FX to plain A64:
"To be honest in everyday stuff and gaming I do not see a difference at all. [. . .] The FX is not worth the price difference at all!"
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Old Nov 5, 2004, 01:16 AM   #5
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The FX is multiplier unlocked, if you plan to mess around with overclocking that way. I don't think it's worth the extra $$ just for that.
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Old Nov 5, 2004, 01:23 AM   #6
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The FX is multiplier unlocked, if you plan to mess around with overclocking that way. I don't think it's worth the extra $$ just for that.
On the other hand, it's a poor overclocker anyway, so...
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Old Nov 5, 2004, 01:53 AM   #7
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you could lower the multiplier to increase the FSB speed, but I don't think it's worth the money.
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Old Nov 5, 2004, 02:05 AM   #8
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definately not worth the money
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Old Nov 5, 2004, 04:43 PM   #9
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cheers guys,thinking of getting amd 64 4000+ that has a review on driverheaven and is couple hundred cheaper than fx of same
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Old Nov 5, 2004, 05:00 PM   #10
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one last question.looking at 2 motherboards

abit av8-3rd eye for 939 socket with kt800pro chipset
and second is msi k8n-neo2-plat-54g with nforce3 chipset for 939 socket
hard call,which is better for gaming and better all round m-board
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Old Nov 5, 2004, 06:06 PM   #11
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personally id avoid abit ive found them flaky in the last year or so.
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Old Nov 5, 2004, 06:13 PM   #12
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Just to make your chioce easier, I love Abit, but hey, Zardon has probably seen a lot more than I have... But from I know, nForce3 chipset tends to cause more stability problems than VIA.
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Old Nov 5, 2004, 06:30 PM   #13
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Abit Is Via Chip And Msi Is Nforce
Pro And Cons To Both,at Moment Msi Has Slight Lead For Me,thinking Long Term
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Old Nov 5, 2004, 06:31 PM   #14
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The Asus A8V would be my pick, but I would have to go with the Abit VIA board out of your choices.
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Old Nov 5, 2004, 06:35 PM   #15
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Hard Call, Guys
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Old Nov 6, 2004, 04:49 PM   #16
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THERE IS ANOTHER MOTHERBOARD,a msi k8t neo2 fir.out of the three boards,which you think is best choice
a/abit av8-3rd eye with kt800pro chipset
b/msi k8n neo2 plat-54g with nforce3 chipset
c/msi k8t neo2 fir with kt800pro
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Old Nov 7, 2004, 03:54 PM   #17
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reviews put slight problems with all three,abit board seems least trouble.previews where done with samplle boards and not finished as in what was sold on selfs.would get msi with nforce3 chip,but earler version had few probs and seem to fixed???????????
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Old Nov 7, 2004, 04:04 PM   #18
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Go with ABit. Even if you have a problm with it, I know their support is ok (they even tried to get the exact memory model when I had a problem). Also, there is a AV8 model, w/o the 3rd eye, in case you don't have to have that...
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Old Nov 7, 2004, 04:23 PM   #19
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cheers bug77.at moment .its looking like abit av8.would have liked the msi k8n plat,but the nforce seems to have few bugs in it
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Old Nov 7, 2004, 04:59 PM   #20
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cheers bug77.at moment .its looking like abit av8.would have liked the msi k8n plat,but the nforce seems to have few bugs in it
That's why Abit decided to skip it altogether...
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Old Nov 8, 2004, 01:01 PM   #21
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some supplyers are telling me ,like z said to avoid abit.telling me msi k8t or asus a8v or asus av8 in socket 939.telling me if also avoid nforce 3.get via chip board.

confused.had made my mind up to get abit from my local and he said he wouldn't sell abit as he has a lot of returned abit boards in nforce2
back to drawing board?????????
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Old Nov 8, 2004, 02:13 PM   #22
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The Asus A8V would be my pick, but I would have to go with the Abit VIA board out of your choices.
Most of the major sites like THG, HardOCP, Anandtech, etc. use the A8V. One of my friends has it and I was pretty impressed.
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Old Nov 8, 2004, 02:34 PM   #23
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just hard to get from overclockers,komplett,peats etc.have asked for it on list of boards.they only can get msi and abit and can only get asus av8
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Old Nov 8, 2004, 03:39 PM   #24
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Ah. I know what that's like. That's why I got a PNY 6800GT. It was the only kind they had at the local CompUSA. plus I got a friend on the inside that got it for me on his discount.
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Old Nov 8, 2004, 04:36 PM   #25
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one question.abit has flashmenu to flash bios in windows.does asus and msi have same or something simlar.as its very easy to flash with abit boards,this is one item that lead me to buy my last 3 abit boards
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Old Nov 8, 2004, 04:42 PM   #26
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msi has a windows bios flasher. I haven't played with the asus one yet.
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Old Nov 8, 2004, 04:52 PM   #27
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Old Nov 8, 2004, 05:10 PM   #28
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Having used pretty much all types of A64 cpus since they were introduced I can honestly say that the new 90nm A64's are by far the best all around(and cheapest). There is absolutely no need to get an FX or anything over a 3500+ unless you have m