new AMD64 system wont boot up

Counterfe1t · Oct 24, 2004, 11:42 PM

Ive installed a new motherboard and processor in my computer. Every cable is seated and ive doubled checked to see if the video and pci card is seated correctly. the trouble starts when i boot up my system it gives off one beep then the POST screen boots up regularly. until it reaches to the windows loading screen thats when it randomly restarts back to the POST screen ive checked my my BIOS settings and trying to boot up the computer using fail safe settings here are my system specs

AMD 64 3000+ S939
MSI NEO2 Plat.
1x512mb of pc2100
40gb WD Master
80gb Maxtor Slave
i will post more specs as they come

Nacht · Oct 24, 2004, 11:52 PM

check the memory. put it in another comp and run memtest86.

either that, or the PSU is having problems...

Judas · Oct 25, 2004, 03:00 PM

The first beep is normal as long as it's not EXTREMELY long... ( a long beep usually can mean memory/Video/or CPU [thank award for there specific beep codes

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try underclocking the memory/timings and cpu maybe a tad....

DID you JUST get these parts .. (all new) or did you have one of the hardrives from before.. and just put it in the new rig and fired it up?

IF the later, then you will have to do a windows REPAIR via the windows install disk on bootup... if that doesn't work.. you may be looking at having to format and install windows all over (even simple changes like a Via chipset move from KT400 to KT600 or vice versa will cause the system to continueiously reboot when windows tries to start)

***Zardon*** · Oct 25, 2004, 04:28 PM

As judas said, if this is happening, its generally due to old chipset drivers on the OS bootup. best for a reformat.

bake15 · Oct 25, 2004, 04:40 PM

i read somewhere that the neo2 is a bit picky when it comes to ram

maybe you could borrow a stick off a friend just to rule that out.
hope you get it sorted

Jalle64 · Oct 25, 2004, 05:10 PM

I see that your Ram is only 2100

wont you need at least 3200 memory to run that config right? Can the prolly cope with that "slow" memory? test with a faster one

Judas · Oct 25, 2004, 11:03 PM

Todays hardware is able to downclock or upclock memory *usually*..... i'm not exactly a well educated man when it comes to the latest or almost every board out there... totally downright don't know usually for intel .... but i think it would be not a great move to put a motherboard that couldn't accept slower memory then the specific frontside bus... highly doubt there is one out there...

Generally, you never see PC1600 anywere... i think that's just not supported at all anymore... PC2100 and up seems to be widely available... should be supported without a hitch....

pr0digal jenius · Oct 26, 2004, 12:26 AM

yea..i think the problem, as Z and Judas said, is the changing of the hardware. If you really don't want to do this, find a small hard drive and format it and run windows on it and use the current one as a data drive and just delete all the windows stuff off of it

Jalle64 · Oct 26, 2004, 04:02 AM

Well, I was only concerned that the memory would set down the perfomance for him

But as Judas said your main option (I think) is to reformat and install Windows again.

dipstick · Oct 26, 2004, 12:34 PM

Do you have the latest BIOS installed? I only ask becuase if you have a 90nm cpu it wont boot with an older bios(make sure you have version 1.2 or later).

AT_curiousB · Oct 26, 2004, 01:42 PM

I had the self same problem when swopping to an AMD64.

It turned out to be two things, a faulty stick of ram, and the old PSU. even though the PSU was supposedly rated to a 550, it simply did not cut the mustard.

Exchanged the ram, installed a well known branded PSU and have not looked back since.

Counterfe1t · Oct 26, 2004, 05:33 PM

its finally fixed the problem seemed to happen because the install of windows i had loaded on my hard drive. a fresh install of windows and a reformat and everything is back to normal my system as of late has been rock solid

Drakon · Oct 26, 2004, 08:50 PM

good to hear, counterfe1t...

refraction · Oct 31, 2004, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Counterfe1t

its finally fixed the problem seemed to happen because the install of windows i had loaded on my hard drive. a fresh install of windows and a reformat and everything is back to normal my system as of late has been rock solid

was just about to post that, cant believe nobody realised that. whenever you change hardware ALWAYS do a fresh windows install, cos it gets rid of drivers it doesnt need and it doesnt load ones that are incompatable with your new hardware.

One thing to remember when you have a problem with new hardware

It boots past bios = Most likely a software problem
It doesn't post = Definately a hardware problem

Judas · Oct 31, 2004, 01:29 PM

Any small hardware change, even sometimes a driver software change.... is recommend to get the most preformance and stability, is to do a complete Format of the drive and FRESH install of windows... The more software you install... overlapped installs... uninstall... and replace (driver updates).... tend to expand the registry, apply settings that were not to be and fragment the drive by placeing files that should technically have been at the beginning of the drive near the end and more.

I've even seen an improvement from either pulling a stick of ram out say from 512 down the 256..... or putting a stick in..

Alot of programs including games anilyze your computers components.. it'll detect CPU speed/RAM/Video... etc... save those settings within various places.... and from there.... never change. One reason it is good idea to completely format the drive, and remove the games completely (save games could be kept as long as you don't keep the config files)...