[Max Powerz]

Which is the best right now? I was gonna go athlon (xp cause i cant afford 64s... i'm poor) but it's actually cheaper for me to get one of the celeron d's (which aren't THAT bad). So yea, good mobo? Anyone? What am I to look for?

[pr0digal jenius]

if your going the intel route, i'd go pentium 4....the odler northwoods are ncie and cheap now

[Max Powerz]

Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius

if your going the intel route, i'd go pentium 4....the odler northwoods are ncie and cheap now

Yea but a P4 2.4ghz is $170 and a 2.4ghz celeron d is only $100, plus the celly'll overclock to 3ghz at least (166/664fsb) and I'm hopen for 800 dunno if it can do it tho.

EDIT: Oh yea and the only diff between the two (it's a p4e) is the cache (1mb vs 256k).

[Vampyromaniac]

Asus P4P800 Deluxe is a good one

[Max Powerz]

Originally Posted by Vampyromaniac

Asus P4P800 Deluxe is a good one

What about the P4P800SE - Socket 478 I865PE, AGP, 5PCI, 4DDR, SATA Raid, SND/LAN? What's the difference between the deluxe and the se (hopefully it doesn't mean 'suck edition' like it does with vcards). It's over $100 cheaper (canadian).

[Vampyromaniac]

not sure if there's a performance difference, probably features. but I don't really know

[pr0digal jenius]

deluxe has 8 channel audio(SE has 6), deluxe has more USB, and i think more firewire, etc...no functional differences...both do AGP and SATA RAID...so go for the SE

[Max Powerz]

Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius

deluxe has 8 channel audio(SE has 6), deluxe has more USB, and i think more firewire, etc...no functional differences...both do AGP and SATA RAID...so go for the SE

What's the 8/6 channel audio? Dammit, I just remembered how much I wanted soundstorm, lol, but I guess I'll go this, it should beat the crap outta my current realtek thing. And I could always buy an audigy or something right? The 6/8 channel thing, is that like channels in hardware and the rest are in software? Isn't the minimum channels for bf vietnam and such 16? I think I do it in software now, but... yea.

[pr0digal jenius]

no...your thinking of bits....'soundblaster compliant' is 16 bit, audigy is 24 bit

channels deals with hardware, like, your audio can be mono(1 channel), stereo(2 channel), 4 channel, 5 channel, 6 channel, 7 channel, or 8 channel

by channels it means like, distinct sound sources....4 channel has front left, front right, rear left, rear right, 2 channl is just left and right, mono is just one sound firing from all sources, etc.

8 channel is currently the hgihest offered, although the highest speaker setup I have seen(which i own btw ) happens to be 7.1 (7 channel with a subwoofer)


and yes, you could always go in later and disable onboard sound (RC97 or whatever codec it's got is disable-able in the bios) and add in an audigy or SB Live! or sumtin


hope that helps...cheers!

[Max Powerz]

Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius

no...your thinking of bits....'soundblaster compliant' is 16 bit, audigy is 24 bit

channels deals with hardware, like, your audio can be mono(1 channel), stereo(2 channel), 4 channel, 5 channel, 6 channel, 7 channel, or 8 channel

by channels it means like, distinct sound sources....4 channel has front left, front right, rear left, rear right, 2 channl is just left and right, mono is just one sound firing from all sources, etc.

8 channel is currently the hgihest offered, although the highest speaker setup I have seen(which i own btw ) happens to be 7.1 (7 channel with a subwoofer)


and yes, you could always go in later and disable onboard sound (RC97 or whatever codec it's got is disable-able in the bios) and add in an audigy or SB Live! or sumtin


hope that helps...cheers!

Thanks for the info, I'm wondering tho, In battlefield vietnam you can select the channels, from 32, to 64. Wtf is this?

[Vampyromaniac]

I'd guess it's the max # of 3D audio sources in the game

[Falstaff]

I enjoy the ASUS products, I own one, but hey, what about an 875 board? They are cheap now.

[Max Powerz]

Originally Posted by fallang_jeff

I enjoy the ASUS products, I own one, but hey, what about an 875 board? They are cheap now.

Not as cheap as the 865, and the 875 is pretty much the same isn't it?