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Jul 17, 2002, 11:10 PM
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Modem + XP = 115.2bps
I had a big problem with XP and i had to reinstall i when i did i reinstalled my modem drivers i didnt have a copy of the ones i used before so i used another that came with modem and now it says that im conneceted at 115.bps and the net does seem to be going faster but how am i connected that fast with 56K?
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Jul 17, 2002, 11:14 PM
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That should be unpossible!
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Jul 17, 2002, 11:15 PM
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tell me about it
Well i disconnected and reconnected and then restarted and im still at 115.2 bps
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Jul 17, 2002, 11:19 PM
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WTF
My download tranfer rate is 20Kbps a sec. WTF? I dont know what's going on but i dont mind
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Jul 17, 2002, 11:28 PM
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SRy... mis-post
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Jul 18, 2002, 02:31 AM
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Yarr... I be blind!
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Actually its reporting the speed the Modem is connected to the computer over the "Virtual" com port.
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Jul 18, 2002, 03:09 AM
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i remember seeing a modem that claimed that it could compress just about everything on the net and connect at a "115k equivalent"  .... Also, what cyborg is saying may also be the case...
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Jul 18, 2002, 04:05 AM
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So..
SO it's reporting the speed that it's connected or transfering through my com port? But what aboutt he 12-20 kbps d/l's it sure seems faster to me then before.
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Jul 18, 2002, 04:14 AM
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regardless of what the FCC says it is possible to connect faster than 56k over a standard phone line.
My friend Joanna and I used to sit at her house and we could get connected at 115k all the time.
One time I nearly crapped my pants when I started a download of Winamp 2.x almost 2 years ago or so.
It downloaded at 24K.....As you can imagine my jaw dropped
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Jul 18, 2002, 05:39 AM
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Re:
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Originally posted by Crash Override
regardless of what the FCA says it is possible to connect faster than 56k over a standard phone line.
My friend Joanna and I used to sit at her house and we could get connected at 115k all the time.
One time I nearly crapped my pants when I started a download of Winamp 2.x almost 2 years ago or so.
It downloaded at 24K.....As you can imagine my jaw dropped
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I know it sounds very strange, but there have been times when with my 28.8k modem (i don't use it anymore), that I got some very unusual speeds. At one time, my ftp client showed me download at "1400kbps". It lasted for only a split second, but I did have about 500 more kilobytes downloaded... from that point on, the download went at 25k  .... Miracle?
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Jul 18, 2002, 06:20 AM
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Go here
info on 115k connects: http://808hi.com/56k/x2-inf1.asp
You are only getting the port speed of your modem as Cyborg suggested. You need an updated .INF for your modem to show your true speed. As far as speed bursts are concerned, I too have experienced short extreme bursts while downloading on servers that are close to home or in my state while on dialup. I once downloading a copy of Netscape running at about 24kps. Don't know if system moniter was showing the true kps or if it was a fluke, but it seemed to download faster.
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Jul 18, 2002, 07:51 AM
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Ight
Ok i figured it was somthing with the driver i was using but anyway why when yoiur d/linhg somthing does the modem not take all it's capable speed to d/l. Like say 4-12kbps when it's reated at 56k? Does have to with the speed of the server or FTP that you are connected too?
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Jul 18, 2002, 11:54 AM
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One time I did conntected at that speed  last year before higest conected on my new cpu so far been 48,000 but avgs out 44,000 most of the time. 45,200 or 46,600 fewest time if I get lucky hehe
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Jul 18, 2002, 12:03 PM
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Re: Ight
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Originally posted by Sourcer_2002
Ok i figured it was somthing with the driver i was using but anyway why when yoiur d/linhg somthing does the modem not take all it's capable speed to d/l. Like say 4-12kbps when it's reated at 56k? Does have to with the speed of the server or FTP that you are connected too?
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The data has to go through a noisy analog phone line first of all. Second of all, some people that control the phone lines in some way decided that they'd limit the maximum speed a phoneline can handle to 53.3. This explains why nobody connects at 56.6. Also, the added noise in the phoneline causes people to connect at lower speeds. Also, when you are downloading a file, take a look at your internet connection. You will notice that your modem is not only downloading the file, but also sending information and/or commands to the server it is downloading from. Also, connection speed is not everything. It has been proven that people that get low connection speeds can still get higher and lower speeds while connected. A connection speed is just the speed the modem was at when it connected. Also, if you have a winmodem and you are doing lots of cpu intensive things, then expect your modem to get crappy speeds. Noise in a phoneline causes all the fluctuations etc. Also, improperly configured internet settings for modems (ahem... windows 9x) can cause lots of packet loss and lead to far lower speeds than the modem is capable of.
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Jul 18, 2002, 12:14 PM
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Ok but you wouldnt you have thought that someone would have made a program that like put the priorty of d/l higher to get at a higher speed. Or do somthin about the rate at which it is sending and use it for d/ling?
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Jul 18, 2002, 12:51 PM
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Re:
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Ok but you wouldnt you have thought that someone would have made a program that like put the priorty of d/l higher to get at a higher speed. Or do somthin about the rate at which it is sending and use it for d/ling?
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People have done just that. If you are using windows xp/2k/nt, it is very well configured to work flawlessly with any type of modem/internet-connection. If you are using 9x, do a search at download.com for "mtuspeed" and that proggy will help you out  . You can't "make a program" to "fix" the noise in your phoneline though (obviously). The "priority" etc is always the highest it can be unless you are doing two downloads/uploads at once.
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Jul 18, 2002, 02:18 PM
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Re: Ight
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Originally posted by Sourcer_2002
Ok i figured it was somthing with the driver i was using but anyway why when yoiur d/linhg somthing does the modem not take all it's capable speed to d/l. Like say 4-12kbps when it's reated at 56k? Does have to with the speed of the server or FTP that you are connected too?
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You must also be sure to know if it is Kbps or KBps, there is a huge difference.
56K is 56Kbps = 7KBps.
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Jul 18, 2002, 02:42 PM
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I always thought that kbps was the same as KBps and i am using XP and when i installed i did notice an improvent in My connection as for nosie i dont really have any in my lines that is noticed.
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Jul 18, 2002, 07:23 PM
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Re: Ight
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Originally posted by dallasstar
The data has to go through a noisy analog phone line first of all. Second of all, some people that control the phone lines in some way decided that they'd limit the maximum speed a phoneline can handle to 53.3. This explains why nobody connects at 56.6. Also, the added noise in the phoneline causes people to connect at lower speeds. Also, when you are downloading a file, take a look at your internet connection. You will notice that your modem is not only downloading the file, but also sending information and/or commands to the server it is downloading from. Also, connection speed is not everything. It has been proven that people that get low connection speeds can still get higher and lower speeds while connected. A connection speed is just the speed the modem was at when it connected. Also, if you have a winmodem and you are doing lots of cpu intensive things, then expect your modem to get crappy speeds. Noise in a phoneline causes all the fluctuations etc. Also, improperly configured internet settings for modems (ahem... windows 9x) can cause lots of packet loss and lead to far lower speeds than the modem is capable of.
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actually most isps have different servers setup for different speeds......once all the 56k lines are taken users are shunted to 36.6 then 28.8 then finally 14.4
if you get connected at a low speed you are stuck at it till you reconnect with most isps
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Jul 19, 2002, 12:17 AM
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with my new ISP i never connected lower then 45.2
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Jul 19, 2002, 09:56 AM
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I am willing to bet, Sourcer, that the only time you get fast (20K) downloads is when you download a TXT file or something similarly uncompressed. Most modems can do compression on-the-fly and can, therefore, do faster downloads.
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Jul 19, 2002, 10:51 AM
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Re: Re
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I always thought that kbps was the same as KBps and i am using XP and when i installed i did notice an improvent in My connection as for nosie i dont really have any in my lines that is noticed.
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They're not. Kbps is Kilobits per second, KBps is Kilobytes per second. There are 8 kilobits in a kilobyte, just like 8 bits in a byte.
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Jul 19, 2002, 11:13 AM
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Ok
So that explains why when u connect at 56k kbps and you only see that your d/l are going 4-8 KBps because the Download is a larger file
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Jul 19, 2002, 11:30 AM
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Well, no. Kbps and KBps are different units. 56Kbps means 56,000 bits per second of transfer. That, in KB is 7K/sec. That is the difference
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Jul 19, 2002, 11:49 AM
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huh
wow thats really werid why didnt they just keep nice and simple by using one or the other lol
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Jul 19, 2002, 01:21 PM
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The bigger number sounds better to the uninformed that's why.
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