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Old Feb 26, 2009, 12:47 PM   2 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #31
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Re: Realtek ALC1200 (The confusion and questions answered)

My Sapphire Radeon 4870 1GB card has 2 DVI connectors. I am connected to my monitor using one of these and a DVI cable. I do not use the ATI DVI/HDMI dongle.

So, our two cards are not the same from at ATI "sound driver" point-of-view. I have read that the ATI card checks to see if there is HDMI and, if so, sends both audio and video, otherwise only video. Perhaps it is this difference that would account for your system working with Realtek and mine not working.

For curiosity's sake, I'm going to attach the dongle to my second DVI connector to see if that triggers my HD4870 to behave any differently. Maybe, if it does, it will create a situation similar to yours where Realtek and ATI work together harmoneously.
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Re: Realtek ALC1200 (The confusion and questions answered)

Attaching the dongle didn't solve my noise (background static) problem. Not having an HDMI cable at this time, I was unable to complete the connection by attaching my HDMI monitor - so this may be why it didn't work.

I deleted all sound drivers in device manager and re-installed the Realtek R2.17 (6.0.1.5794) driver. Initially, upon rebooting, everything was fine - no background noise. However, the moment that Vista completed the default installation of a second sound driver (their "High Definition Audio Device" driver), the spurious background noise reappeared.

Clearly, Realtek/ATI/AMD need to address this driver problem.
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Judas, what brand/version of HD4870 is working for you?
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i don't use the HDMI for audio just a fyi.

i'm trying to find a picture of the HD4870 card i've got as the HDMI port i on the far side beside 2 DVI ports.

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found essentially what i've got..

it's not the 1gb eddition but it's a gainward hd4870

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Hello, I have an Asus P5Q SE motherboard, which of course had the ALC1200, and I was considering buying an Asus audio card, but I would be using digital outputs going into my Denon receiver through coax, which the realtek has anyway, so I was wondering weather or not I would be able to tell a difference. I would mainly be using it with windows 7 x64, listening to music through iTunes, all in stereo. Would there be any difference in sound? And is the output from either truley digital? What I'm really trying to do is use digital instead of analog to cut down on distortion, especially since I will only use stereo. Thank you for the assistance.

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when it comes to digital..... specially if it's all just going to be passthrough.... no you won't see a difference
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NanooseGuy, did you tried to mute & turn the sliders all down for the line-in, CD and mic inputs in mixer? (to remove the noise caused by the non connected high sensitive analog inputs)
Another suggestion: try to "switch off" the beeper connected to motherboard.

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??? Re: Realtek ALC1200 (The confusion and questions answered)

I also have an ASUS mb (P5QL Pro) with ALC1200 audio CODEC. I have installed the latest drivers for the MB and for Realtek. Onboard sound works great.

The problerm : I have no sound problem playing Vegas2. When I try to play Call of Duty World at War,I have no sound.

Anyone here have a solution ?
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Sorry to revive an old thread but I've come across this a couple times and finally decided to post about this.

To whoever said "no unamplified set of speakers will get loud sound"... there seems to be an issue with the Vista drivers of the ALC1200. I have a dual boot with XP and Vista, and BY FAR the soundcard is WAY LOUDER in windows xp. Not only that but I was able to plug speakers/headphones into wherever I wanted and both would work at the same time...in Vista I have to plug both into the front jacks in order to get them both working at the same time... Makes NO sense. I've updated to every newer version that realtek has released and none compare to XP's sound.

Not only that but custom EQ is completely gone from their drivers, all you get to choose from is their crappy presets.
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I agree about the EQ, but I haven't noticed any problems with the sound levels. I use speakers and headphones and they are pretty loud...
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sound levels are actually quite good.. i've gone through about 6 different motherboards from different manufacturers with the ALC1200

you must go into the realtek Audio Manager and in the additional settings... set it to "make rear and front audio play 2 different streams" for both to operate at the same time....
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sound levels are actually quite good.. i've gone through about 6 different motherboards from different manufacturers with the ALC1200

you must go into the realtek Audio Manager and in the additional settings... set it to "make rear and front audio play 2 different streams" for both to operate at the same time....

Just be careful if you do that you might not be too happy with the results if you want to mute the speakers when you plug in your headphones.
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well you'd have to pick the option you like.. your given 2 ...

"Mute rear speakers when front is detected/used"

or

"Make rear and front play 2 different streams"

It's the way Vista/Realtek Designed the sound system configurations. This is why in XP you can plug something in the front and have it duplicate the Rear ... you don't have these options in xp.

Vista works the same way...

Frankly i love it for the fact that i can play my DVDs/Music/Games whatever including windows sounds through the rear main speakers and then have my headset/mic setup on the front with ONLY vent/TS/Skype working through it ... no bleedthrough or anything.. just perfect audio.

Vista/win7 give more options as you can have actually multiple audio streams running.... RCA/Fiber/Analog/Analog2(front) for outputting.... provided you can select your output source in the program you want to output to a specific device.
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In my case if I choose play 2 different streams, I cannot tick on mute rear speakers when front is detencted,used. Yours doesn't work that way?
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you can't?


both in win7 and vista.... i can mute rear speakers while leaving the front unaffected and vice versa....
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Dude, you are not following.
For PLayback Device I get two options.
One is "Mute the rear output device, when a front headphone plugged in.
Two is "Make front and rear output devices playback two different audio streams simultaneously.".
You can't have both on at the same time. It's one or the other. And you said you could?
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no i didn't say you could...

i'm confused by your question though...

you have 2 options.. you pick your options..

If you select the first being mute rear speakers when front is plugged in... then that is what happens... i plug in my headphones into the front.. and the speakers are muted and the audio feeds through the headset....

i pick the 2nd option... and the 2 devices play individual streams.

I can then MUTE either one individually on a whim or at the same time.... doesn't matter... they act like 2 seperate devices.... You cannot however from what i've tried.... get both to playback the same audio at the same time... You must use a Splitter to do this.
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Let's just drop it.
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Judas, in XP it can play the same stream through both front and rear outputs, there is NO way to get it to work in Vista.

The only way to get 2 outputs playing the same thing in Vista is to plug both into the front jacks thus enabling "HD audio 2nd output". The drawback is the front ports have a bit of noise/static. The rear is crystal clear and no noise at all.
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I know in XP you can do this this... but vista and win7 you cannot...

Getting both to play back through the same stream requires a splitter.
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Update: I set my realtek control panel to use these settings which DID allow me to output the same streams through the main speaker output on the back and the headphone output on the front.

Mute the rear output device, when a front heaphone is plugged in.

I enabled that setting and it doesn't actually mute the rear out put lol, it plays through both outputs just fine.

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I have Asus P5Q Pro. Which audio drivers are better to use:

Official from Asus website (a little bit old, last driver is dated Nov. 2008)

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Newest from Realteak ( no official ALC1200 support) ?
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IMO, i prefer the reference drivers from realtek... they are the best
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Attaching the dongle didn't solve my noise (background static) problem. Not having an HDMI cable at this time, I was unable to complete the connection by attaching my HDMI monitor - so this may be why it didn't work.

I deleted all sound drivers in device manager and re-installed the Realtek R2.17 (6.0.1.5794) driver. Initially, upon rebooting, everything was fine - no background noise. However, the moment that Vista completed the default installation of a second sound driver (their "High Definition Audio Device" driver), the spurious background noise reappeared.

Clearly, Realtek/ATI/AMD need to address this driver problem.
I have an Asus P6T motherboard with the latest Bios (0603) on W7-64bits with the latest Realtek drivers (6.0.1.5859) and ATI-4850 graphic card from Gigabyte with recent driver (end of june 2009).
The front audio output has a lot of noise, even with the PCBeep level down to zero.

Did you manage to get -at least- a good sound from the rear audio output (direct from the motherboard) ?? how did you proceed ?

This bloody noise pb is unacceptable from Asus...

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I have installed the latest driver and followed some of the recommandations described here. I do not know exactly what solved the pb, but the sound is nt perfect... So there is a way to solve it, but I do not know exactly which one....
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Hey guys i just downloaded the latest HD Codec ((2.81) R2.30) from realtek website and got this error (image attached). The files are not being copied even when the files are in the folder . This thing also happened when i tried to install the previous version ((2.60) R1.98) after uninstalling and then again installing it . Mobo is P5Q-EM OS: Win XP SP 3. Plz help. Thanx.
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Old Aug 21, 2009, 11:51 AM   #59
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Re: Realtek ALC1200 (The confusion and questions answered)

It looks like the file is not included in the package you have downloaded: maybe you should try the version just before.

If this is the cause, Realtek will probably update its package in the coming days....
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The files are present in both the versions but i am unable to install them.
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