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Old Mar 18, 2008, 04:28 PM   #16 (permalink)
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There wasn't problems installing on any raid configuration....

it's just that with 5 or more drives... windows vista's supplied driver just doesn't seem to kick in for, i'm not sure what reasons...


4 drives or less.. and the window for selecting a drive pops up with the raid arrays listed.. And installation continues with the vista supplied ich9r driver

5 drives or more and the window for selecting a drive pops up with no drives and a caution message at the bottom stating "Windows was unable to find a drive that meets it's criteria".... at which point manually loading a driver via usb resolves that, you select the driver, and continue to load windows via the official intel ich9r driver.
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Old Mar 18, 2008, 05:23 PM   #17 (permalink)
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okay so as per your experience with 5-6 drives in RAID and with X38 based baords you always get the Windows was unable to find a drive that meets it's criteria errors, and then after loading the third party driver it's worked everytime?
after Vista installs, have you ever checked the Intel ICH9R SATA RAID controller's driver properties in the Device Manager before you install IMSM software?
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Old Mar 18, 2008, 05:40 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Yes... precisely..... the intel driver needs to be installed....

After installing windows and using the driver.. before installing the intel matrix storage software..... the driver listed in the device manager is that of intels and the same driver that the storage matrix would install (i ripped it from the folder for the usb drive)
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Old Mar 18, 2008, 06:10 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Yes... precisely..... the intel driver needs to be installed....

After installing windows and using the driver.. before installing the intel matrix storage software..... the driver listed in the device manager is that of intels and the same driver that the storage matrix would install (i ripped it from the folder for the usb drive)
i think this is about limitation in the total RAID Array size, it shouldn't be the number of drives in RAID.
i don't know yet. need to check some Intel's documents later. but this is not hardware problem.
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Old Mar 18, 2008, 08:09 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Judas, you may want to do some research into this subject.
if you have 2 TB volume(s), then see if the problem has to do with 2 TB limit
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google these...
ICH9R 2 TB limit
and Intel Matrix Storage Manager Production Version 7.5.0.1017 - Supports data volumes Greater than 2 TB.
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Old Mar 19, 2008, 09:27 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I've only ever done it with 500gb drives.... so that's a likely possibility... when i get my hands on 5 or more of the 320gb.. i'll give that awhirl..
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Vista built-in driver is before version 7.5.0.1017?
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Old Mar 19, 2008, 11:11 AM   #23 (permalink)
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not sure.. i think the built in driver is dated november of 2006.....
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the "Greater than 2 TB" support, was introduced as a new feature in baseline 7.5.

Pre-Alpha 7.5.0.1002 - October 20, 2006
Alpha 7.5.0.1007 - December 27, 2006
Beta 7.5.0.1014 - February 26, 2007
Production Candidate 7.5.0.1017 - March 30, 2007
and Production Version 7.5.0.1017 was released and dated - April 6, 2007.

so, i think the driver that dated November 2006 still have 2 TB Limit.
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that would make sense then.. the vista supplied driver predates the fix..... so anything over 2tb result in the driver not doing the job... so the intel supplied updated driver resolves the issues.
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large disk drives cost less and less these days, but i think, not so many people will run 6x very large drives in RAID-0 under onboard controller. for a larger than 2 TB volume, it's mostly to be used for RAID-5 storage.

anyways, Intel ICH SATA RAID controller, Intel MSM software and driver and option ROM are all pretty good.
multiple arrays can be created, multiple volumes can be created using same set of drives.
i've not checked what is going to be improved in ICH10R, Gigabyte P45 when released will support 16GB of DDR2-800 memories (G.Skill has just release a 16GB 4GBx4 kit. lol)

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omg....



that's it... i'm backup up my stuff and selling my x38-dq6.... and suffering on a poor single core machine for a bit... lol
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good to know about that RAID limit though i doubt i would ever run into that situation. Were u guys talking of using 4 and 5 drives to create one huge Volume? that's madness!

U guys know if ill see better HDD performance if i set the option to RAID in the bios and install the RAID/Matrix drivers in vista, or i leave it to RAID disabled and no RAID drivers in vista? which would work best witha single SATA2 320GB drive?

also in opinions on the intel supplied TIM on the heatsink, i have some AC5 here and its an option, but i dont plan to do any serious OC'n right off the bat being new to intel and the DDR2 setup. It looks to be decent, its on in three strips (which i never seen before) and is of a grey look similair to AC5 maybe a bit more pastey (not a white crappy looking pad), would it be worth it to clean it off and use AC5?
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good to know about that RAID limit though i doubt i would ever run into that situation. Were u guys talking of using 4 and 5 drives to create one huge Volume? that's madness!
Yep. They were, and Judas has that kind of setup actually.

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Even if you put 5 identical drives on your machine, and all of them were setup separately as single drives, they'd all run the same whether the controller was set to Native, AHCI, or RAID. Running with RAID now, however, gives you the option of switching to RAID later on without having to reinstall the OS. It also allows for hot swapping of secondary drives (useful with eSATA since you don't have to turn off your machine in order to remove an eSATA drive).

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also in opinions on the intel supplied TIM on the heatsink, i have some AC5 here and its an option, but i dont plan to do any serious OC'n right off the bat being new to intel and the DDR2 setup. It looks to be decent, its on in three strips (which i never seen before) and is of a grey look similair to AC5 maybe a bit more pastey (not a white crappy looking pad), would it be worth it to clean it off and use AC5?
At stock speed the current paste will do most people just fine. If you do intend to overclock, tend to keep your computer on all the time, or would like that extra little bit of help to keep things cool (AC5 can drop temps by as much as 4 degrees) then I'd suggest replacing that with something else.
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