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Nov 24, 2006, 03:22 PM
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DriverHeaven Lover
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AM2 or 939
i buildin new rig ... and i dunno what to go for
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a 939 with opteron 146 (and then overclock) (with standard ram - probably twinmos)
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an am2 with amd 3800+ single core
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and one more thing.....if i go for am2 can i run ddr2 400 on am2's coz most gigabyte mobos dont seem to mention support for ddr2 400
thx ppl
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Nov 24, 2006, 03:31 PM
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DH SuperMod
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If you are looking for future-proofing, I would certainly get the AM2, as it replaces 939 as the standard. AM2 does support DDR2, and is pretty much the reason the socket was created in the first place. I would also see if you can get a dual core proc, as I imagine by now they are probably $30 more than the single core.
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Nov 24, 2006, 04:50 PM
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If you plan to continuously upgrade, go w/the AM2 socket like Vikingod suggested. However, if you want to be cheap and have some good (not generic stuff) DDR memory you don't want to get rid of, and you won't be upgrading very often, go w/the 939 board. It'll save you some cash on buying the older stuff, and also save you cash in the "don't have to buy all new RAM" department.
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Nov 25, 2006, 02:31 AM
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do u guys think ddr2 400 "will" be supported no matter what the website says
coz gigbyte mobo's list support like this "DDR2 533/667/800"
i think it doesnt matter.....and is it true that amd am2 processors have a specific ddr requirement?? (coz some say ddr2 800 and stuf)
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Nov 25, 2006, 01:18 PM
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DH's Dormant Dragon
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actually no..
Heres the deal,
Do you want to save your money and get something that although has a limited upgrade path as everything is clear that nothing much beyond 4800+ x2 or FX cpu will fit into the 939, but still can push some serious cpu power and still have other upgrade paths. Or spend extra on a am2 set which AMD has already comfirmed that AM2's socket lifespand is going to be exceptionally short with the introducation of AM3 around the corner EVEN if you can use an AM3 chip in an am2 chip with less functionality.
Frankly, save your pennies in this department for now, 939 is still damn good.
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Nov 25, 2006, 02:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Judas
Frankly, save your pennies in this department for now, 939 is still damn good.
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Very true, particularly with the ridiculous prices for good DDR2 atm.
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Nov 25, 2006, 03:03 PM
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DH's Dormant Dragon
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no kidding..
just in the low end department.. it cost the same amount for DDR2 512mb stick as it does for 2x 512mb DDR 1gb kit. go figure.
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Our enemy is a radical network of terrorist, and every government that supports them. ~George W. Bush An evil excists that threatens every man, woman, and child, of this great nation. We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our homeland. ~George W. Bush & Adolf Hitler
Look in the mirror occasionally, unless you reflect on what has occured in the past, scale those historical moments and forgotten moments to todays current situations, you are bound, in every inconceiveable and unwanted way, to repeat that which you may have swore to never do, and never support. We must awaken, and we must do so now and in mass. ~*pm me for whom*
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Nov 25, 2006, 04:11 PM
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Mars
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Judas
no kidding..
just in the low end department.. it cost the same amount for DDR2 512mb stick as it does for 2x 512mb DDR 1gb kit. go figure.
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You can get a 2x512MB DDR1 kit for $60 CAD?
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Nov 25, 2006, 04:41 PM
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why you want to use DDR2-400, do you already have DDR2-400 memory modules?
if you already have memory modules, then what is the name and model or part number of the memory modules?
Last edited by PangingJr; Nov 25, 2006 at 04:47 PM.
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Nov 25, 2006, 05:10 PM
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DH's Dormant Dragon
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I can get 2x512 DDR1 for 110 bucks roughly while 512mb DDR2 stick will cost me 105 bucks.
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On the matter of communism, and it's front organizations should not obscure the issues. ~Adolf Hitler
Our enemy is a radical network of terrorist, and every government that supports them. ~George W. Bush An evil excists that threatens every man, woman, and child, of this great nation. We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our homeland. ~George W. Bush & Adolf Hitler
Look in the mirror occasionally, unless you reflect on what has occured in the past, scale those historical moments and forgotten moments to todays current situations, you are bound, in every inconceiveable and unwanted way, to repeat that which you may have swore to never do, and never support. We must awaken, and we must do so now and in mass. ~*pm me for whom*
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Nov 26, 2006, 12:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Judas
AMD has already comfirmed that AM2's socket lifespand is going to be exceptionally short with the introducation of AM3 around the corner EVEN if you can use an AM3 chip in an am2 chip with less functionality.
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just what i was scared of....i hope the am2 is not like socket754...now you've got me thinking again.....
here are my am2 options:
Asus:
http://www.asus.com.tw/products4.asp...69&modelmenu=1
Gigabyte:
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/...e=GA-M51GM-S2G
Note that they are all Small factor.....are these ok? they will fit in a normal casing right? (the screw positions and stuff)...they also come with Geforce 6100 so that i dont have to wait for a week to start up my system (waitin for my 7900)
i will be going with Geforce7900GS so i thought a 3800+ am2 would so a pretty good job as compared to an overclocked opteron 146 (at 2.4 or 2.5 max coz i live in a desert)
futher input-advice/comments will be greatly appreciated.....esp on the above mobos
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Nov 26, 2006, 12:41 AM
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and the other reason is that mem prices over here for ddr400 are the same as ddr2-533, coz the ppl here think ddr is becomin rare and they are increasing the prices and stuff....so i dont wanna be stuck with 939 in the future (when i wont be able to get affordable ram)
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Nov 27, 2006, 03:04 PM
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DH's Dormant Dragon
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Hmm,
While i would not recommend getting a motherboard with onboard video if you've got a dedicated card on the way..... you could save that on a board without it.
C47, don't rush into anything your not sure of. If you feel you absalutely need a machine now then do as much research as you can, (punch in the motherboard or other parts names into google for reviews and read through them to get the most accurate idea on them)
ATM, i'm building AM2 machines right now, BUT i'm leary on what is ahead and what is to come quickly off AM2. AMD states backward capabilities, but who knows with mobo makers and what WILL end up happening.
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On the matter of communism, and it's front organizations should not obscure the issues. ~Adolf Hitler
Our enemy is a radical network of terrorist, and every government that supports them. ~George W. Bush An evil excists that threatens every man, woman, and child, of this great nation. We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our homeland. ~George W. Bush & Adolf Hitler
Look in the mirror occasionally, unless you reflect on what has occured in the past, scale those historical moments and forgotten moments to todays current situations, you are bound, in every inconceiveable and unwanted way, to repeat that which you may have swore to never do, and never support. We must awaken, and we must do so now and in mass. ~*pm me for whom*
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Nov 27, 2006, 03:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Judas
ATM, i'm building AM2 machines right now, BUT i'm leary on what is ahead and what is to come quickly off AM2. AMD states backward capabilities, but who knows with mobo makers and what WILL end up happening.
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but now that AMD has aquired ATI, AMD now has it's own MoBo chipset, so they can in effect back that statement up if they wanted to...
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Dec 12, 2006, 07:30 AM
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i just did my last 939 upgrade as socket is to change again,for me no point in spending 5-900 euros on good am2 cpu and mobo
getting tired of upgrading cpu and mobo these days as they seem to be going way of gfx
will wait till its worth upgrading
my 5 cents
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