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Hello mbo1:
I am not sure i completely understand your probelm. You did a Clean install of Windows Vista, and uninstalled the built in Radeon 3xxM IGP drivers? If that's the case, go back into this thread, find the Catalyst 6.4 Driver package i posted, and follow its included instruction on how to install manually. DO NOT use any Catalyst Driver newer than 6.5. Take care, good luck - Randomness |
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not sure if this thread is still alive but this is driving me insane.
after reading a majority of this thread and messing around with catalyst this and omega that would i be correct to assume that everquest II is out of the question? i figured since i had all the minimum requirements, a 3ghz pentium 4, 1gb of ram and the 128 mb video card that i would be fine. it would seem i was naive, i cant seem to get direct3D to work very well at all without an updated driver. not to mention directx9c. im using a vaio pcg-k35 and the only driver i can find that installs correctly is off the sony site, and it was last updated in 2004. what good is a 128mb card if i cant use it. there must be some way to get this thing running up to par no? or do i just have to buy a desktop lol. |
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Hello:
First, i must point out the fact that a Sony Laptop seems to be having difficulty playing a Sony-backed game. According to your Vaio Model Specs, you are using a Radeon IGP 345M. This chipset uses shared system memory by means of UMA (Unified Memory Archeticture). Which means if you have 1GB of installed RAM, and have the UMA BIOS setting to 128MB, you will only have 896MB of system RAM available to the game code, and 128 MB for texture memory. The Radeon IGP 345M and the chips like it are all based on first generation Radeon GPU cores. Specifically, this GPU core does not have programmable Pixel Shader Hardware, which everquest requires to function correctly. Please note, that in order to install any of the modded drivers mentioned, you need to do it manually through Device Manager. If you manage to get the Modded Catalyst 6.4 driver instaled correctly, and the game still doesn't run correctly, then fundamentally the Radeon IGP 345M can't run it because of a lack of hardware pixel shaders. You could try emulating Pixel Shader Support by using a Program called 3D Analyzer to allow the CPU to do most of the unsupported graphics work. But fundamentally....this is an OLD graphics processor. It was designed to fully support DirectX 7, and most of DirectX 8.1 (Minus the Pixel Shader support) through hardware. DirectX 9.0c games can run after some fancy foot work, and driver modifications, but usually the game play speeds are so slow that it wasn't worth the effort anyway. Best of luck, take care, happy holidays. - Randomness |
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Hello again to all the folks out there trying to play wow on our little old laptop. I managed to get a 2-3 fps increase after changing the system s virtual memory to a 2046-3048 mb.
Randomness, based on your experience, what would be the best setting to windows xp virtual memory for playing such memory demanding games like world of warcraft? Another thing, I have an external hard disk drive connected to my laptop. Will I benefit if I create the virtual memory there? thanks again |
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Hello:
For virtual memory, i would suggest setting the max and min values of the page file to the same value, that is at least twice the amount of ram you have installed. For example, if you have 1024MB of installed RAM, set your page file to 2048 min and 2048 max. Using the same values will prevent windows from fragmenting the page file frequently, which will improve preformance in the long run. Take care, happy holidays - Randomness |
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Sims2 Working on Compaq nx9010
my daughter acquired a 'refurbished' computer for christmas
soley for the purpose of playing Sims2... after hours of pouring over this thread, this turned out to be the perfect fix to get the game running . this machine had 3/4 gig of RAM so i upped the UMA to 128m the systems video chipset was the Radeon IGP 345m thanks alot randomness! and everyone else on this forum Quote:
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I just bought an NEC Versa E660 Laptop running a Radeon IGP 340m for the purpose of gaming (yeah, well... my desktop pc has an 82845 Intel "Extreme" integrated chip and 256 ram)
Looking at all these driver issues and stuff, I'm beginning to wonder if I would be better off with my PC that can't even run C&C Generals at normal speed on low graphics. The Versa I bought has 768MB of RAM installed so I'll give the 340m 128MB to play with, but will it be any good for gaming? I'm not going to put anything new on it, the most graphically demanding games I have are C&C Generals, Warcraft III and TES3: Morrowind. Am I better off with a Radeon 340m, or should I continue to use my Intel "Extreme"? P.S. Well, now I've had lunch, so I may as well add all the techie details ![]() Dell Dimension 2400 2.4Ghz Celeron (urg) 256MB RAM (bought more, but it didn't work) 250GB Western Digital Hard Drive Intel "Extremely Integrated" Graphics 82845something (up to 64mb shared) XP Home SP1a, updated Intel drivers. And then there's the ports, which I can't be bothered listing. NEC Versa E660 2.2Ghz Pentium 4 (possibly Pentium 4-M...) 768MB RAM 30GB Hard Drive ATI Radeon IGP 340m (up to 128mb shared) XP Home (don't know what version, haven't got it yet) And a whole load of extra ports... Obviously the Versa looks better equipped for everything, but I'm not sure, as there's a lot of complaints on the web about 340m's lacking stuff and having bugs with hardware T&L. I'm prepared to install the Omega Drivers, but I'm dubious about how much of an improvement I'll get. All my computers are budget, and all my graphic cards integrated, so I've never really seen the awesome power of non-integrated graphics, and this laptop has what looks like the best graphics card I've got. Last edited by Commander Keen; Jan 14, 2008 at 08:02 PM. |
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Hello,
I currently own a Sony Vaio Pcg-k23 laptop that came with a Radeon IGP 345m. I currently am not able to watch HD videos of a resolution of 1280 x 720 and even some mkv files. The vide will play but after a while my cpu will sky rocket to 100 and i start getting slow video with the sound off. My question is what would i need to be able to play such files on my computer? I currently have 512 shared ram. Will upgrading it to 1 gig and changing the UMA Bios to 128mb help? I am also still using the 2004 old video driver sony provides for the laptop. I have tried upgrading to the omega driver but i get problems with video some video type files wont play at all such as mkvs and ogms, so i uninstalled that and reinstalled the old video drivers. Is there a catalyst driver that i can safely upgrade too with no issue. Any help will be much welcomed i have looked everywhere and thankfully i was able to find this thread. Much thanx in advance. |
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This forum is great, you really help people here.....its my first post, of a lot i think....
First of all i have Sony VAIO PCG-FRV25, 512 RAM (about to get 1gb), ATI RAdeon IGP 345m, and of course that dvd/cd-r that has a lot of problems.......all drivers are originals froms sony's web and updated just by the sony's web..... I use my Laptop for entertainment, music, movies, encoding (a lot), capturing video, edit photos, etc.....but i wanted to know if i can install another driver that, reading from your experiences, i can install for my ATI IGP 345M, you know to improve it......i tryed omega driver 3.8.252 but ut said that my device was not present or that it was not the correct one.....so, what would be the version i should try? Another question...is there any diferences in catalyst and omega drivers? should i install catalyst or omega? how to choose? |
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Hello, apologies from lack of posts....things have been very busy.
Commander Keen : The IGP 340m has technical specifications that give it several advantages over the older Intel G845 Graphics Core. For example, it have better T&L hardware support as well as better OpenGL support. If your going to stick with older games, you shouldn't encounter many problems. I would recommend sticking with older Drivers between Catalyst 4.4 and Catalyst 4.10 (inclusive). If a game still doesn't work properly, it would be only then that I would suggest you use the mentioned modded Catalyst 6.4 driver on this thread. Take care, Best of Luck, and happy gaming. - Randomness |
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Hello Taryel,
The additional memory would be your best option at the moment. If you have your UMA at default settings, with only 512MB of shared system memory, then only 64MB of graphics memory is available to the GPU, and 448MB is available to Windows. The older Catalyst 4.x drivers *may* provide support for HD video decoding. I would suggest trying to download an Omega Driver pack based On Catalyst 4.9 Go here: OmegaDrivers.net - Home of the ATI & NVIDIA Omega Drivers. Archive And download "Radeon Omega Driver 2.5.76 (Catalyst 4.9)" (it is 15.8 MB). However, i would suggest trying to upgrade your memory and setting your UMA to 128MB first. If neither of this options works, then you will need to go back in this thread and read up about the modded Catalyst 6.4 driver for this graphics card. However, please read the notes regarding DVD playback issues. Best of luck, take care. - Randomness |
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Hello EMDY:
I would strongly suggest sticking with Catalyst 4.4 to Catalyst 4.10 drivers. Any Catalyst Package 4.11 to 6.4, will cause several problems with DVD playback unless you are using Windows Vista. Any Catalyst package newer than 6.4 will crash this GPU, or not even install a driver. If your willing to experiment, i would suggest trying the Omega drivers based on Catalyst 4.9 mentioned in my previous post. In regards to gaming only, i have found the best preformance with these chipsets occurs with Catalyst 5.9 to Catalyst 5.13 ; however, DVD playback does not work when using Overlay rendering. You would have to use a VMR-capable DVD decoder in order to work around the problem. I personally use Catalyst 4.4 for my notebook when i am not usign it for gaming, because i have found it the most stable. If you check in DXDIAG, or device manager, it will have an internal driver version of 6.14.10.6436, or in some cases, it is list as 6.14.0010.6436. Make sure to make backups with everything. In a worst case scenerio, the best way to restore your original notebook graphics drivers and their settings involves reloading your system. Good luck, take care. - Randomness |
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thanks for the response.......i'll try the omega based on catalyst 4.9, and i allready backed up everything in my laptop, just in case.......
just 1 more question.....when u say u use Catalyst 4.4, you mean the Catalyst 4.4 or omegardriver based on catalyst 4.4 ?.......i search for ati catalyst 4.4 but wasn't able to find a download.....can u guide me where to find it and dl?......... Thanks again... |
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Thanks Randomness! Good to know that the graphics card is an improvement, which makes my laptop better than my desktop in all but the hard drive size
![]() My friend told me that it could run Starcraft II and C&C3, although I highly doubt that I would get decent performance if they ran at all. I tested the laptop, and I'm quite impressed with it's graphics power. Turns out the hard drive is dying, but it can still run Warcraft III on high and Unreal Tournament 2003 on medium, so I'm happy. It's a whole lot better than running both on low! |
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Hey Randomness
![]() I have got a HP Compaq Evo N1020v laptop with 768DDR(704mb) ram , 1.6ghz Intel celeron and a Radeon 340M GFX card. The problem is about the UMA Buffer size. I can only set it maximum 64mb in my bios setup. I have the latest version (F.0b) I have got your modified 6.14 drivers with Catalyst Control Center Version 1.2.2172.2074. I read some posts and people said that they had an option to change uma from the CCC. But when i open the UMA Frame Buffer settings in CCC, its set to 0mb. There are no choices, only 0mb. But it shows under system that its 64mb. I want to set it 128mb, couse Im a real gamer... Maybe you know what could be the problem?Second question is that I got my resolution set to 1024 x 768. When i change the resolution to any higher of that the screen starts moving the mouse and doesen't fit on the panel. Is there anyway to fix this ? I would like to use atleast 1280x1024 or 1152x864 resolutsion. I read some posts about powerstrip but I dunno how it works. And the last question is, should I maybe consider upgrading to Vista Ultimate ? Would the 756ram be enough to run vista on a 1,6ghz CPU ? Would I get higher fps or a small boost with Vista?Thank you Your drivers rock ! Last edited by Lennard; Jan 25, 2008 at 07:30 AM. |
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Hello Lennard,
Running low on battery, so i am going to try to make this post quick, but i may edit it later when i get more time at my desk. 1) I would not suggest using Catalyst Control Centre, as it is not completely compatible with the IGP 340M chipset. Don't worry about what it says as a your UMA setting. It is your BIOS UMA setting that takes absolute precedence. You can access your BIOS when you see your systems Boot logo when the system first powers on. HP usually uses F1, F2 or F10 to access the BIOS. I would suggest using ATI CCC to modify DirectX and OpenGL preformance settings only. 2) You notebook's Internal LCD panel only supports a maximum resolution of 1024x768. If you try to increase your resolution on your notebooks LCD, your only going to run into image distortion. If you are trying to run an External monitor.....then, in theory, this chipset can support upto a maximum resolution of 2048x1536. But getting external monitors to work properly is nothing short of messy. Basically, you need to use PowerStrip to make a custom monitor driver to be used for the external monitor, and then install this driver manually using device manager. Good luck and take care, - Randomness |
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Hi Randomness,
Thank you for your answer. Yes i know about the Bios setup It's with Compaq laptops F10. But you diden't exactly answer my question what I wanted : Is it possible to set UMA Buffer size 128mb ? The Bios Setup only allows 64mb maximum. And the last question, should i consider upgrading to Vista Ultimate ? Would it boost FPS or performance in gaming ? Lennard |
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Hello,
UMA can only be set to 128MB if the BIOS detects sufficient memory installed. I needed to install 1GB to unlock the upper setting. However from past experience with this thread, there have been cases where the BIOS isn't designed to allow more than 64MB allocated to UMA. Most of the time this usually gets resolved by installing a newer version of the BIOS, but if yours is the newest, then it might be possible that the BIOS simply won't allow it. I'd suggest trying 2 512MB SODIMM modules. Although, i think 768MB of memory should do the trick because my laptop currently uses that amount (mind you the option became available when i had 1GB installed first). Vista will provide better compatibility with DVD playback and a few games becuase the newer Catalyst 6.4 driver will work better with Windows Vista's HAL configuration. However....you won't find any preformance increases, if anything, you *may* find some games will finally, but barely, work with this chipset. Not to mentioned, getting vista to run on these older machines is messy to say the least. But....possible. If you can, i would suggest installing Vista on the machine without a licence key, which will give you a 30 day grace-period. That way you can figure out if you can get everything running without wasting a licence by "activating" it. That way, if it doesn't work, you will still be able to use your licence key on another computer. Best of Luck, take care, - Randomness |
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Thank you randomness for your help
I will try Vista & also the 1gb test. ![]() It's great to have you here ! Lennard |
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I did a clean install of Vista . And now i got some bad problems...
I cant install new display drivers anymore. Not even the original catalyst ones, but I did manage to install the agp bridge driver from your modded 6.4 set. The problem is the same what the one guy had here, infact its the same laptop model "compaq Evo N1020v". Restart the windows with new display drivers nothing appears, just black screen. I tried to install with vista updater, it finds the correct new driver but it says that "the handle is invalid" and the device update fails. What am I souppoused to do now ? Please help Randomness, it really sucks if i got no ATI display driver. Omega drivers wont work. tried with device mananger via inf updating. Reboots fine but no sign of omega, vista starts searching for vga drivers again. I also tried the compaq AGP to bridge driver. Everything same. Lennard Last edited by Lennard; Jan 26, 2008 at 08:00 PM. |
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I have the same model as well, Compaq EvoN1020v , and so far no matter the updates I am not able to get the UMA higher that 64. If someone in here has better luck, we would be thrilled to know!
Another small hint, for those of you that want to update the memory but cant find any 2100 that runs at 266Mhz ; I used a new one, 2700, and it did the work. I added a 1024 dimm running at 2700, the computer recognized it only as 512 running at 266 of course. Paired with another 512 I now have installed the max memory available for our little machines. So dont worry if you cant find the proper memory. -Most likely-, even a newer one will work! To help things up for people that ask in pm's, can someone post just the links to the best drivers for gaming, and the the ones for dvd playback? |
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I Think i figured out what gives us "Evo N1020v" Vista users this black screen. But im not too sure about that couse i havent mananged to fix it yet.
I started checking out Windows Vista updates. Until i finded this Reliability Update : Download the Windows Vista reliability update - August 2007 (KB938194) "Here is what bugs are fixed with this tiny download" :
![]() N1020v Vista users test this out. Becouse I cant.. My Windows Updater gives me error when trying to check updates. Something about firewall, ports not foward correctly. dunno, Alot ppl have this error "Code 80072EE2" People slove it with different ways. I havent got it working yet. Also i tried stand-alone updating, downloading from the link above what I gave. It starts checking updates and finaly tells me "the update does not apply to your system" WTF ? ![]() Guess im trapped. ![]() BTW - Updater work very well with my Desktop PC. Lennard |
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Well, my new laptop just had some hard drive problems, so I'm buying a new hard drive, and I though I might as well get a better graphics driver than whatever it had installed. So far I've got the following drivers:
Something that came with it (Runs DVD's fine, so games are probably running slow...) Omega Drivers ATI Catalyst Mobility 6.9 ( from ATI drivers & bios , lists 320m/340m/345m as supported ) This time round I'm looking for gaming performance, and I don't care about DVD playback too much, as I've only played a DVD in it once, and in the meantime I've been testing some newer games like Enemy Territory and Dawn of War (Well, I know they aren't that new, but I still want my old P4 with Intel graphics to handle some of these too) So which one should I install? Or should I get the Catalyst 4.10 and use that instead? |
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Hello! After reading this thread for two days i decided to make post my own experiences and problems that i have encountered.
First of all i couldn't download from earlier post DH (Patje) Mobility Modder V2.2d because the links wasn't working anymore.I haven't tried to download the new version because i have read in the post before that these newer versions of Mod tool doesn't work with Catalyst 4.10. I couldn't open http://www.driverheaven.net/patje webpage also I couldn't find it on the internet to download,and i couldn't install Catalyst 4.10 drivers on my Fujitsu Siemens Lifebook E 2010,even when i cleaned registry from ATI driver entries with Driver Cleaner Pro (very nice utility) andmodified the CX_18115.inf and C2_18115.inf in C:\ATI\support\{Catalyst 4.10 install}\driver\ the sting "RADEON IGP 340" = ati2mtag_RS200, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4137" with string "RADEON IGP 340M = ati2mtag_RS200, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4337",because my Device Instance ID was PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4337, but that didin't help. I considered downloading original drivers from Fujitsu Siemens website but they were 6.13 and dated to year 2002,and i downloaded them as my last chance to make something. Before installing these drivers i installed the HP drivers Randomness recommended,but they haven't worked either.I tried to install AGP Gart driver from HP,but it also haven't showen any sign that the driver was installed.I checked PCI bus and PCI standart host CPU bridge but the provider of the driver was Microsoft. So i decided that i need to find drivers for this chipset,and of course i discovered that ATI doesn't provide any and that ALi,was named ULI,and then bought by Nvidia.Thanks to driverheaven i found a link to download ULI drivers.It installed ULI FIR and AC97 WDM drivers for sound card,but it haven't helped... Before proceeding to put original driver and to surrender i decided to go to http://www.driverheaven.net/modtool/ and download the latest Mod tool utility,even if i read before in the thread that newer versions of mod tool doesn't support such old version of Catalyst as 4.10.So i installed Microsoft MSXML 4.0 and Microsoft .net 2.0 (even this version of Catalyst doesn't require it) and the Mobility Modder worked well when i pointed him to Catalyst 4.10 install files at c:\Ati\Support And finaly some success! The Catalyst setup started,but when i chose to make it custom,it was only showing one option for drivers,and there were no option for Catalyst Control Center.I downloaded Catalyst 4.10 from guru3d,which said that this version of Catalyst 4.10 comes with Control Center and the name of the file was wxp-w2k-ccc-8-062-040929a-018115c.exe,also showing that it has Control Center inside. So the driver installed,and 2D graphics works faster that with original driver.So far i haven't tried to run any games or dvd movies,but divx and xvid movies with the latest media player classic from k-lite codec pack are working perfectly. I can see that this thread is not so popullar at the moment,and i perfectly understand that only crazy people try play games on such old platforms,but i'm happy that there are guys like Randomness who dedicate their time to solve problems that big corporations left unsolved,that people would buy their new products.So,if you have an idea how to start Control Center after modifying Catalyst 4.10 drivers with Mobility Modder it would be very helpfull for all of us if you would share your knowledge. Thank you for reading. |
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Sorry, been very busy, i'll try to address some of your issues by next weekend.
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Hello guys,
Could you please point me in right direction on what driver (and where to get it) to use with HP ze4300 laptop with Conexant cx20468 ULI/ALI M5451 AC-Link audio??? Ive tried few drivers and no luck so far... Thanks! |
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Before I start, thank you everyone for your help with this graphics card, I have found it very useful.
I have a Compaq Presario 1500 with an ATI Radeon IGP 340M 64MB. I have had two probles with it so far. The first is that I cannot set the UMA to more than 64MB, I have checked for a bios update and have had no luck. I have 1GB of RAM installed too. The second (and biggest) problem is that whatever I do, since I have installed Vista, I cannot get ANY ATI drivers on the laptop. I'm stuck with "Standard VGA". Not one driver will install. This is except for the Modded 6.4 driver, but once this installs I get the black screen after rebooting and cannot progress any further. The only way then to get back to windows is to restore the "Standard VGA Driver". Thanks for any help with this. Here is my laptop's specification: Compaq Presario 1500 Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate ATI Mobility Radeon IGP 340M 64MB 1024MB RAM (960MB) Intel Pentium 4 2.4ghz 30GB HDD EDIT: I have decided to return to XP, as Vista is really annoying me - its great on my desktop though. Last edited by Presario1500; Feb 25, 2008 at 03:06 PM. |
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Lennard:
From what i've been able to research about your problem, it would seem that the BIOS has not been updated to provide proper graphics resource allocation while using windows Vista. The BIOS is also responsible for the upper limits of what the UMA can be set to. It sounds like the Video BIOS module of your system BIOS needs to be updated, but i cannot find any updates available from HP that haven't already been posted before. At the moment, i cannot suggest a fix to it. This problem is with the BIOS, and is outside the scope of the assitance i can provide. Best of luck, take care - Randomness |
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