SinR

ok, found a lil more out...

first off i dont think its overheating... ive been able to play for hours on end without this issue happening. plug the laptop in at work at 10pm and play until 6am when its time to go home... does get a little warm but i have the laptop raised up off the desk for better airflow

second off, According to DXDiag, im running 6.14.0010.6587(english) 12/12/2005 Drivers.

just ported to Exodar to hit the Auciton House (figure 'hey, NO ONE goes to Exodar, less lag!... oh shit whitescreen... BSOD) the 'file' affected was ati2dvag, stop @ address 0x000000EA (0x829CCB38, 0x82A6A6B0, 0xF9020CB4, 0X00000001) (Unless im misreading my own handwriting)

once again im running it on WinXP (all up to date) on a Presario 2500 (2596US)

any other information you need, just say somethin, i'll get it and post it up

thanks again for the help

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reiluke

i just got a hold of vista final release, i installed it on my emachine m5305 with gateway bios me09 dated 2006.

performance rating rated 1.0
its very stable

i have problems on multimedia/graphics and modem drivers

i can find any compatible drivers for my ati 320m, ati released vista drivers but ati 320 was not included, although the vga driver from vista worked with 32bit and higher resolution, there was no 3d or direct draw acceleration

error 12, windows could not allocated resources on this device

hmmm

magotes

I have installed a patched catalist 6.5 on Vista, and my IGP340M now has a rating of 1.9 for interface gfx, but still 1 for games, according to the system evaluation tool. There must be a better solution, no?
HP totally washed their hands, with a big "NO VISTA FOR YOU" stamped on the updates page for my laptop. *SIGH*...

Randomness

Hello again:

I am somewhat pressed for time, but i will try to make the information as coherent as possible.

First, and foremost, i cannot stress the importance of BIOS updates when it comes to pushing the envelope with this chipset series. However i am aware that not all OEMs are eager to update their products' BIOS. But if an updat eis available, i recommend updating it. Especially when it comes to Vista Compatibility.
However, as per usual, you need to follow your OEM's instructions, and you conduct your BIOS updates, or anything else mentioned on this thread, at your own risk.

Another Important note is in regards to Catalyst control Center. It IS NOT very compatible with this chipset. I strongly recommend finding a copy of ATI control panel to configure your drivers. You can even use the old control panel with your original notebook drivers in most cases.

http://www.filefactory.com/file/4390c0/
--> Mildly refined Catalyst 6.4 modded INF
--> Contains ATi Control Panel from Catalyst 5.11 (works fine in XP with this driver)
--> Contrains driverCleaner Pro 1.5, for cleaning out left-behind or corrupted driver files
--> Contains the ATi GART driver, for the AGP bus
Link to download may not stay active for long. Maybe a week at best.
However i can re-upload if needed. Just ask.

That said, here we go:

------ > kobefanatic2289:

You can get a copy of the modded catalyst 6.4 driver from here:
http://www.nomgle.com/Catalyst6_4_incCCC_IGP3xxM.zip

I have also updated a few things, and made a new catalyst 6.4 package which includes a copy of the ATi Control Panel i spoke of above.
You can get a copy of it here:
http://www.filefactory.com/file/4390c0/
Click on the link "Download for free with FileFactory Basic" in between the adds.
I should also point out that this link may not stay active for long.

----- > garbervetsky:

Assuming your running your latest BIOS versionf or your system, I would recommend cleaning out all installed ATI software using the Add/Remove program....errr....what ever they renamed it too in Vista, "Uninstall programs" i think. You may also be able to use DriverCleaner pro to clean up any other left-behind files. but use caution. I am not sure if DriverCleaner will run properly in Vista.

Do not install Catalyst Control Center in Vista. There have been.....quirks.....since the Beta2 release of vista. I would suggest only installing the drivers.
When you've cleaned out the old drivers, manually install only the Radeon IGP 3xxM driver. Reboot your system, and see if the graphics system is working properly. Install the ATI GART Driver next. If you encounter problems, uninstall the GART.

FYI, BIOS and Keyboard Controller updates available from here. Please verifiy that they are for your system model.
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/g...reg_R1002_CAEN

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport...5&mode=4&idx=1

-----> SinR
From the sounds of it, your using Catalyst 5.13. it also sounds like those installed drivers have been corrupted. I would suggest uninstallin them through Add/Remove Programs, than clean everything up with drivercleaner. Install a fresh copy of any modded Catalyst you preferr based on Version 5.10 or above. That should clean up your WoW issues. However if you still encounter probelms, there may be issues with the installed AGP bus driver. After you install a fresh set of drivers, check DXDIAG for Acceleration to be enabled for DirectDraw, Direct3d, and AGP texture acceleration. Also run all three DX3D tests.

--- > reiluke
Unfortunately, there seems to be an small epidemic of eMachines notebooks with this graphics chipset series having code 12 driver issues in Vista. The problem is with your system BIOS. Windows Vista has a completely revamped HAL (Hardware Abstraction layer), and Vista also relies on newer ACPI code in the BIOS to configure devices properly.

A BIOS update would give your system the necessary ACPI fixes, however, from my understanding eMachines hasn't released any newer BIOS for there m5xxxx series machines using the IGP 3xxM series chipset.

---- >magnotes
I wouldn't worry about the rating system in Vista, or its preformance advisor. it is not good at detecting old hardware. in particular, it has difficulty fully detected the amount of shared UMA memory the chipset is using. And even if it did, it would get a low rating in the gaming section unless there was at least 256MB of graphics memory.
Plus Windows Vista still have OpenGL issues with ATi cards. Although because the IGP 3xxM chipsets use the old XP driver model, i was able to add support for OpenGL that way, however i am unsure if Vista has bugs else way that may inhibit OpenGL support, or OpenGL detection, which is also used in determining the Gaming rating.


Anyway, got to run. Good luck, take care, and have fun.

- Randomness

Nom

A quick note for Vista users : There are BUILT IN drivers for the 320M/340M/345M chipsets, offering basic 3D functionality.

Head into Device Manager, RightClick your Display Adapter, and select "Update Driver". Select "Browse my computer for..." and then "Let me pick from a list...".
Untick the "Show compatible hardware" box, and then select the "ATI Technologies Inc." section. Scroll down the list, and choose "RADEON IGP 320" or "RADEON IGP 340" as appropriate !

magotes

Hm, nice spotting there, Nom! I'll give those a try right now, as I can't seem to download Randomness' pack, the site times out waiting for the d/l... I'll report back after some testing.

asmoshe2

l8ly i installed vista final , all works great except video card
i tried this -> Catalyst6_4_incCCC_IGP3xxM.zip
but still i get only vga card on device driver

i tried to download the last driver from last post but its broken http://www.filefactory.com/file/4390c0
plz reup


and if someone have nc4000 or know how to install vista video driver on this pc
it relly would be helpfull

thx in advance

Nom

Scroll up to post #305...

garbervetsky

Hi all.

Randomnes. Thanks for your help!

I've already had the bios updated. I've tested (as you suggested) installing the video driver first. I rebooted and everything worked. But the after installing the ATI GART (and rebooting again) I've got the same problem. Blank screen, no keyboard response and I looks that it using a lot processor resources as the fan started to go faster.

I think, that this driver is not ok with my computer.

Do you suggest something?

Thanks!

Randomness

Hello again, garbervetsky:

I would suggest cleaning out the drivers again, and only install the Radeon Driver as i suggested previously. It seems the ACPI / HAL have been modified since my last build of Vista, so i will have to do some further investigation on it in my free time. Just let windows use the default PCI-bridge driver. The actual hardware bridge built into the actual chipset should operate fine without its driver.

The IGP 3xxM should operate fine for Direct3D and DirectDraw programs.

Take care, have fun, and good luck.

- Randomness

kobefanatic2289

I would like to thank all of u for ur support and help especially Nom and Randomness... u guys solved my annoying problem... i dont even know how to thank you guys... THANK YOU SO MUCH!! take care guys..

asmoshe2

thx alot nom works great

Makster88

Since upgrading to Windows Vista, regardless of the video player (this includes streaming video websites like YouTube & DailyMotion), video playback has been very choppy and overall unbearable. Could this have something to do with my graphics card?

My computer statistics:
HP Pavilion ze5600
2.4ghz Intel Celeron Processor
IGP 345m Graphics Card (64mb)
1gb RAM
30gb Hard Drive

To try and aid the issue, I have already tried updating the IGP 345m to the modded Omega 3.8.252 drivers, disabling indexing services on my hard driver, using no visual effects and increasing the paging file to 4gb. Unfortunately, none of those have helped.

I find all very strange as video playback when I had XP was absolutely great.

All suggestions would be very much appreciated.

Nom

Try the built-in Vista drivers ! Scroll up to post #305 for instructions

Makster88

Hey,

Thanks for the suggestion, its slightly improved things. I'm able to play videos fine in VLC now.

Although, the issue of playing videos via DailyMotion, YouTube in Firefox still remains. Videos on these sites they play fluidly for about 30 seconds then start being choppy again, any ideas? (the same happens in Windows Media Player actually)

suckaMC

Hey guys I have an ATI Radeon IGP 345m on my Sony VAIO PCG-K25. I got it in 2005. I'm running Windows XP.

I found this thread and it's obviously very long so I'm trying to get some help directly.

The laptop has a VGA port on it for an external monitor. I'm trying to hook it up to my television, a Sharp Aquos LC-32G4U. I have an external unit to the TV where I can plug a DVI port into. It's called an AVC unit and the model is TU-GA1U-S. So I bought a DVI cord and put a VGA adapter on the end of it for the laptop. It hasn't worked.

I checked the device manager and my COM3 port had the yellow exclamation point next to it. It won't update the driver. I don't have any discs that came with the laptop.

I don't seem to have any display problems with the screen on the laptop. I don't pay games on it but DVDs every once in awhile and it seems fine.

I really would like the VGA port to work so I can use it on my 32" plasma!

cru

hey sinR did you ever get this fixed? i am having the same problems in exodar, also this happens in the instance Underbog, by the last boss black stalker or something.... and random, can you re-up those files again, there sadly gone once again.

Makster88

Just a quick question. I have a IGP 345m and have just upgraded to Vista, what drivers do you guys advise installing? (e.g. URL/Driver Name to something compatible). Somehow, the built in 340m driver you guys mentioned earlier to use has gone.

Its currently running using the Standard VGA Adaptor driver and everything is running unbearably slow. Is this card really bad when it comes to using Vista? (I'm not very technical savvy, apologies).

Makster88

Could someone re-upload Randomness' modified Catalyst package? With my Vista built in 340m drivers magically deleting themselves, I really need these to improve my video playback issues.

Sorry for the earlier posts, probably sounding like an idiot, just been trying so many stressful solutions to get everything working alright on vista, ya know?

cru

yes please reupload the one with the cleaner please thats works with windows xp. and anyone have a good config for world of warcraft, with every setting low to maximize fps, cause bc is sooo choppy. i got a pck-k25 345m i believe, 0x4337.. thanks .

magotes

As Randomness pointed out, you can use the modded catalyst 6.4 driver from: nomgle.com

I'm currently using those, and things are acceptable. I too get choppy video in Firefox, but not in IE. Windows Media Player seems to also work fine, so I wonder if it really is a drivers' thing.

@suckaMC: I'm not properly an expert, but I don't think you can connect VGA to DVI just like that. Since the AVC doesn't have VGA-in and that's the only "out" the laptop has, you'll need to get a VGA to DVI "converting box". (best thing I did: bought a laptop with s-vid out )

cru

where on that website, i dont see how that website has anything to do with the modded driver, unless i'm looking at the wrong place. this is frustrating.

Bane Nothos

Has anyone tried with or without success to get the s-video out on the compaq 2100's with the 320M?

I just get a blank screen going s-video out to s-video or using a composite/s-video adapter to go to the composite in on my tv.

magotes

@cru: My bad, the link somehow got chopped and I didn't notice. The file is here:
@Bane Nothos: Under which operating system? In WinXP I had it working fine (I have a 340M and a 345M). I haven't messed much with it yet in Vista, but after a quick test I get black and white image, probably an incorrect format (my tv is PAL, system is likely outputting NTFS or something), as I haven't found an option to configure that yet...

Randomness

Hello once again,

Firstly, the drivers i have posted several times in this thread are based on the "Microsoft" rendition of catalyst 6.4 ; However, the original Vista drivers for the Radeon IGP 3xxM lacks any OpenGL support, and hense i stripped the drivers from vista, added the necessary OpenGL libraries, and have bundled it with a ATi control Panel. However, Given the newer Windows API in Vista, i cannot confidently recommend using either the Control Panel or the ATI Catalyst Control Center in order to "fine tune" the driver settings.

Another important note regarding Vista is the updated Hardware Abstraction layer, which requires a compatible / Updated ACPI BIOS to provide fully support for this chipset in Vista. Unforunately there are some notebooks that do not have the neccessary code in their BIOS, which usually leads to the every ambigious "Code 12" in Device manager about insufficient resources.

I have been working on a few attempted to "transplate" the modular video rom portions of oem notebooks, unfortunately things are going slow and painful due to random amounts of OEM code, and of course....i don't exactly want to brick a perfectly coode notebook.

But in theory, Assuming they have some form of modular BIOS (ie// Pheonix BIOS), the Video ROM could be updated using "newer" code from an alternate notebook that is known to work in Vista (ie// no code 12 error). But strickly in theory. And of course if you decide to experiement which this idea, you do so at your own risk, etc...and so forth.

As to the problems which external video ports (VGA and S-Video) ; These are usually BIOS enabled key strokes, suck as Fn key and F5 ; However i am not sure that Vista allows direct BIOS commands to the hardware in the new HAL, which means the only other way to activate the external video ports would be to dual-boot into XP, and activate them there, and restart into Vista, or get a copy of ATI CP or CCC working and enable the external ports via the driver settings.....which can prove to be tricky In Vista. Ergo....if you still run into trouble getting the external ports working, try downloading and installing the newest ATI CCC 7.2. It should be able to control the older ATI 6.4 drivers, and hopefully allow you to activate the external ports.

Another important note: DirectX 9 is layered over DX10 in Vista....ie// emulated. Since this chipset technically doesn't support DirectX 9 directly, let alone DX10, this may explain why some programs in Vista using the new API do not properly use backward compatible DirectDraw or Direct3D function calls / libraries.
At the time i don't have any recommendations to get arround this; simply hope better debugging in third party vista programs comes soon.

S-Video problems:

Most laptops / notebooks that have S-Video have a 7 pin S-Video port. By default the drivers / chipset will try to "autodetect" for the presence of a TV or other S-Video device. However this autodetect process only works with a 7 pin S-video cable, which isn't very commonly used with normal TVs / home-theater equipment.

Fortunately, you can "Force Detect" the presence of a video device on the S-Video port by adding / editing the following registry key:

Open regedit, navigate to:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\ATI Technologies\Desktop\
The expand the entry:
{4E739131-28D8-4643-B100-B6A3E56776AA}
or similar. If you have more than one of these large stringed entries, i would suggest simply inserting the following into all of them:

with the {xxxxx....etc} entry highlighted, click Edit --> New -->DWORD
name it: ForceTVDetection
double click on your new entry, enter the value 1

If the entry already exists, then simply change its current value to one.

This registry key will allow the S-Video port to be enabled without any "autodetection" being required. (ie/// when using the good-old-fashioned 4-pin S-Video cable)

On a personal opinion note:
Granted, vista is a shiny new OS, and certainly has its better points with its newer technologies, but after extensive testing, i have personally concluded that Vista is not an ideal condidate operating system for my older notebook. However i do understand the desire to tinker with Vista until it does work, (believe me i have done a lot of it) I have found either Windows XP, or even Linux to be better suited for this chiposet / class of notebooks because they provide better preformance, and battery life.

But by all means, best of luck, and i'll post additional information about this chipset series and Vista when i come accross it.

Take care, good luck, and as always, have fun.

- Randomness

And once more, the drivers i have modded can be temporarily downloaded from here:

http://www.filefactory.com/file/a7e220/

Under the "Download for free with FileFactory Basic" link between the ads.

cru

what exatly does enableling acceleration on direct 3d/opengl do? and is ti better or worst for fps.

Randomness

Hello:

Most games require Direct3D acceleration (ie// Halo, HL2) in order to work. There are also a good assortment of games out there that use the OpenGL API to also render in 3D (ie// Doom3, Unreal, ...)

DirectX and OpenGL are just differernt programming platforms for programming games that are capable of using 3D graphics hardware.

The original drivers integrated into Vista didn't have the OpenGL libraries for the Radeon IGp 3xxM series chips. I simply compied those drivers from vista, and added the openGL libraries.

Take care, gotta run.

- Randomness

cru

for some reason certain places in the game "world of warcraft" gives me a black then blue screen and then a crash anyone know how to fix this?

Randomness

Hello,

You would have to provide a little more detail about your system, drivers, and any error codes / messages presented before or at the black / blue screens.

These errors "should" be recorded in your System Event Log.

Start --> run --> eventvwr.msc

Look under the "application" and "system" logs to find more details about the error you are encountering.

take care, good luck.

- Randomness

cru

well i just went back to the orginal drivers that came with this computer, cause i couldnt take it no more... but now i have a new problem its with the ingame textures. Does ATI update these drivers anymore or no? anyways this is what i posted for help in wow forums, maybe you can help.

Ok so after countless of crashes, black and blue screens in certain areas of burning crusade, I reverted back to my old drivers that were released in 2004. Now everything is fine now, and it even helped my fps, but now i have weird ground textures. Places like Stormwind anywhere indoors its fine, but once i step outside, the ground textures looks like square and blocks, and stretching, you can actually see each segment where one square connects to another. This also happens in battlegrounds. Thats the only problem now that I have. I switched to direct3d, because when i try to play in opengl it crashes and freezes right away when i enter the game . Before Burning Crusade when I had this problem i would just change my config to direct3d and this would fix this graphical issue, but now even after the change the ground textures are still there. Anyways to fix this would be appreciated.