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Old Oct 23, 2007, 11:22 PM   2 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #31
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Hello nelsoncsb:

Things have been busy, and i won't be able to completely tackl your problem until the weekend.

I would suggest you obtain a copy of PCLinuxOS Live CD/DVD or Knoppix Linux CD/DVD. That should be able to boot your system, allow access to your windows partition, and let you burn files off of your harddrive.

For now, i am listing your system specifications and personal notes regarding your notebook's hardware based on your posted diagnostics report. Please correct any specifications you feel are incorrect about your system.

good luck, take care

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***Specs***
100 GB Harddrive
Toshiba BIOS dated for 07/02/07, listed version as V1.40
Realteck RTL8139/810x Ethernet

Toshiba Satellite A210, Version PSAEGE-004003PT

AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-52 1600MHz, 2x1024 @ 128-bit

PCMCIA using TI PCI84x2 or PCIxx12 Cardus Controller

Realtek HDA

1024x768 raster display

FUJITSU MHW2120BH HArddrive
MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ-850S Optical Driver

111.8GB harddrive, 3 partitions, C: ("Vista") and D: (Data)

Unknown partition (Code $27) 1500 MB
Atheros AR5007EG Wireless network adapter
TI PCIxxx12 Integrated FlashMedia Controller
SDA Standard Compliant SD Host Controller
TI OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 controller

no southbridge information available from diagnostics.
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Hi friend.
Yes all information is correct. About southbridge ; What's this component ? Is it important ?


BTW i reported this to AMD support , and their answer is :" contact the Toshiba support"

"....The answers for your questions:
1.the latest notebooks are developed for Windows Vista, so the manufacturers provide basically drivers for win Vista. Later they release drivers for WinXP but most of them are beta drivers with no 100% compatibility with the hardware. But this is a problem of the manufacturer.

2.When the driver is not installed correctly, the uninstaller can not remove this driver exactly. In this case you can use an driver removal tool like: driver cleaner: [COLOR=#800080]http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=745[/COLOR]

3.This problem occurs because you installed ATI driver is not compatible with you hardware, means you should use the drivers from the Toshiba website.

4.This is also an problem of the false driver, please contact Toshiba to get the right driver for your system.

5.Drivers for the turion 64 mobile are here available:
[COLOR=#0000ff]http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_13349,00.html[/COLOR]

But we are recommend to install the original drivers from Toshiba.
The drivers from our website are only for activating cool and quiet."


This last phrase explains everything about this : No cooperation between manufacturers.
Certainly I have tried their suggestions and use the "hacking software". I will report this to Toshiba . IF I don«t receive a good response, I'll report this to European Commission for Consumer Affairs.
(URL: [COLOR=#800080]http://ec.europa.eu/consumers/redress/ecc_network/index_en.htm[/COLOR] )
This organization acts seriously in Europe, and will resolve this situation.


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nelsoncsb and Eric1134:

May i ask why you've both removed Vista in favour of XP Pro? Some computer hardware functions better with Vista, and in some cases, was exclusively designed to run in vista.

The Southbrdige is very important. It compliments the northbridge, and serves as the hub for most of your system peripherals. They are especially important in notebooks because they control a LARGE number of devices, such as the CD/DVD ROM, harddrive controller, USB, IEEE 1394, serial and parallel ports, audio subsystems, PCMCIA cards, PCI Bus, PCI-E Bus, etc and so forth.

Your diagnostics records indicate you did not have any southbridge drivers installed. They may be the cause of your problem.

I will try to figure out a way to discover your southbridge soon. I must run to work.

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Old Oct 24, 2007, 08:52 PM   #34
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Randomness:

You are completely right about southbridge drivers. There isn't a driver neither on AMD portal nor Toshiba . "AMD is not responsible for that" this is the conclusion I get from them.
Friend this is the worst support I ever get. The reason of changing Vista to XP is only one: performance.
And believe me : On vista I could see the redesign of desktops icons..the speed of processor was a "shame". When I made the downgrade to XP, the performance was 3 or 4 times faster!
That's the reason..But I could only feel the XP velocity during 2 days. Now, I have to try again Vista...for my unhappiness.

The truth is that , 1.6GH is not enough to Vista with a weak ATI card. In minimum 1.9GHZ~2GHZ . And in my point of view, all the manufacturers should obligatory give support to XP/2000 for this type of notebooks. Windows Vista have protocols with some manufacturers to install this Operating System , but I have no doubts that is not fair for this type of machines!

Cheers to you, my friend,
Hope to have your reply soon.
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Old Oct 27, 2007, 01:49 AM   #35
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Hello again,

Conrad:

How is your graphics issue progressing? Has it been resolved?

nelsoncsb:

After decoding the HEX offset data from your posted diagnostic reports, i have determined that your system is using X1200 / X1250 IGP northbridge with a SB600 southbridge. From what i have read, the X1200 and X1250 are nearly identical in respect to graphics core design, and hence, their drivers can be used interchangeably.

The design of your system suggests it would function fast/best on Windows Vista, and i am uncertain what you mean in regards to preformance increases found in XP.

Fundamentally 2GB of RAM and a 1.6 GHz dual core Turion CPU should provide sufficient power for Vista to operate smoothly. Moreover, the X1200 should provide sufficient GPU power for the Aero interface without burdening the CPU.

In anycase, the southbridge is a standard ATi SB600. When i get more time i will post instructions on where to find XP drivers for this chipset. The general direction i can give for the moment would be to goto ati.amd.com, goto the drivers section, and look under Motherboard/IGP for the X1200 or X1250 (either one will do because the drivers are the same). HOWEVER, the X1200 Radeon driver still needs to be modded, and installed after the southbridge driver is.

I will try to post better instructions when i get more time.

Take care, good luck,

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Old Oct 29, 2007, 07:58 PM   #36
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Hello again,

Conrad:

How is your graphics issue progressing? Has it been resolved?

nelsoncsb:

After decoding the HEX offset data from your posted diagnostic reports, i have determined that your system is using X1200 / X1250 IGP northbridge with a SB600 southbridge. From what i have read, the X1200 and X1250 are nearly identical in respect to graphics core design, and hence, their drivers can be used interchangeably.

The design of your system suggests it would function fast/best on Windows Vista, and i am uncertain what you mean in regards to preformance increases found in XP.

Fundamentally 2GB of RAM and a 1.6 GHz dual core Turion CPU should provide sufficient power for Vista to operate smoothly. Moreover, the X1200 should provide sufficient GPU power for the Aero interface without burdening the CPU.

In anycase, the southbridge is a standard ATi SB600. When i get more time i will post instructions on where to find XP drivers for this chipset. The general direction i can give for the moment would be to goto ati.amd.com, goto the drivers section, and look under Motherboard/IGP for the X1200 or X1250 (either one will do because the drivers are the same). HOWEVER, the X1200 Radeon driver still needs to be modded, and installed after the southbridge driver is.

I will try to post better instructions when i get more time.

Take care, good luck,

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Hi friend.

Well, I am certain 100% that, the XP performance after I installed ATI driver (and modded/hacked it) was really superior than in VISTA environment !!

Like I said before, the desktop's icons were always redesign every time I dropped a window. This behavior was the same since I enter for the first time in Vista OS which was obligatory imposed in this laptop.

This type of obligation is not logical and I believe you know I'm right about this issue ,
If I live near you I would show you the real performance of XP and 2000!!
Other issue is about Vista and compatible various types of software . Like you know there is more support with XPP.

I will wait for those Southbridge drivers for XP , if u could find them, i would thank you very much !

Hope to have more news .


PS- you suggest me to try the string "mtag_52" or "mtag_54" , but a friend of mine who have the same TOSHIBA put that string WITHOUT SUCESS.
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Hello again:

You can get the southbridge directly from ATi/AMD by going here:
AMD GAME! Drivers and Utilities

You want to download the "South Bridge Driver" (3.2MB, version 7.10)

It should install without any trouble, your device codes are in the package's INF files.

Your diagnostic logs also suggest you may also want to install the "GART Driver". But i am uncertain if it is necessary.

I will be quite busy next week. I may not be able to respond until next weekend.

Best of luck, take care.

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P.S. Don't bother with the mtag_52/mtag_54 strings. They are specific to the Catalyst Mobility drivers only. Use the original string i posted earlier when modding Catalyst Desktop Drivers.
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Hello Randomness,

sorry for the late answer... was in business trip last 2 weeks. I've followed your advice, I made everything like you said (I think), but unfortunately there is no improvement at all... Please look at the following dxdiag report, maybe you can find something wrong:

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Display Devices
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Card name: ATI Radeon X1200 Series
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI Radeon X1200 Series (0x791F)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_791F&SUBSYS_FF001179&REV_00
Display Memory: 700.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 800 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6727 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 9/28/2007 22:07:16, 435712 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys
Mini VDD Date: 9/28/2007 22:06:50, 3132928 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-3A5F-11CF-8E68-0ADFA1C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x791F
SubSys ID: 0xFF001179
Revision ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV8_B ModeWMV8_A ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run

Thank you again for your support.

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Old Nov 5, 2007, 09:48 AM   #39
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Ok, hello guys, my problem with x1200 drivers too, i have amd turion 64x2 mobile technology, ati radeon xpress 1200, and OS - vista, but i wanna have xp pro sp2. When i install xp pro sp2 my pc does'nt accept the display driver ''7-10-mobile_xp32_dd_ccc_enu_53252''. Maybe i need other driver?

So i'm extremelly confused, coz i i'm quite newb on modding sth, i think i will be very newb if i keep my pc on vista OS. But i have downloaded the modding tool and trying to understand how to install it

I've read all messages, but i can't understand everything( i'm newb :/ ), maybe i missed some usefull info in this forum, maybe i can resolve this problem myself?

Ask me some info 'bout my pc if u need it in helping me thx in advance
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Hello again,

Conrad:

Your DirectX diagnostic log suggests the driver and display system is working fine. All i can suggest is there may be a non-display driver related issue at work. As i said, in theory the X1200 should have more GPU power then the 9700. I will try to look into OpenGL diagnostic mechanisms, when i last used CATIA, i remeber it using OpenGL instead of DirectX.

UFasas:

I will need to get back to you on instruction on how to modd and install modded drivers at another time. At the moment, i am presed for time.

Gotta run, Good luck, and take care.

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Old Nov 7, 2007, 02:32 AM   #41
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nice, mate, paradox, but i study the same thing as u
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Hey Conrad,
Just noticed that you've near enough the same spec machine as mine regarding internals (mine's a HP 6715B). I noticed in your log that you've got a healthy 700meg display memory whereas mine's a measly 128meg even though we're both running the same h/ware & s/ware.
I'm bit of a newb here, but I've put HL2 on my lappie and it struggles a bit.
Can someone help me to allocate some more memory to the display.
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Old Nov 7, 2007, 01:55 PM   #43
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Sorry - here's the report:-

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Display Devices
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Card name: ATI Radeon X1250
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI Radeon X1200 Series (0x791F)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_791F&SUBSYS_30C2103C&REV_00
Display Memory: 128.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 800 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Default Monitor
Monitor Max Res:
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6666 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 2/2/2007 16:03:44, 264704 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys
Mini VDD Date: 2/2/2007 16:03:26, 1975296 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-3A5F-11CF-8669-C810A1C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x791F
SubSys ID: 0x30C2103C
Revision ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV8_B ModeWMV8_A ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
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oh mannnn, lol me too, i can extend it up to 831mb.. omg, now i have 128, i would like to know how to extend it too.. look:


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ok, randomness, i've got all modded drivers for my x1200 amilo pa 2510 amd turion 64x2, i just now found the guy who has the same pc as mine with modded drivers and xp installed, he uploaded me the drivers and win xp image also explained how to extend video mem, but i can extend it only up to 256 in bios, not up to 830
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Hello Ufasa:

Please understand that the Windows Vista HAL, and DirectX 10 Virtual memory management allow the total "graphics memory" to appear to be 830. depending on how much RAM is installed.

For Instance, my X1950 Pro has 256MB of onboard (dedicated) memory, however the same Vista dialog as shown in your last post reveils i have 1022MB of "total graphics memory". This is not a Hardware extension, such as the shared video memory option found in your BIOS. This is a software extension that is specific only to the Windows Vista Graphics sub-system.

Take care, have fun, good luck.

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Hello Randomness,

I have some news, I don't know if good or bad: I've tested Solidworks 2007 on my Toshiba to see if I have the same graphical problems and... it's functioning PERFECT!!! I have no problem at all with my ATI card, it's reacting very good to all commands (zoom, rotate, etc.). Would this mean now that there is no problem at all with the drivers, but only with some Catia settings? Please help me again with an advice.

Thank you in advance!

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??? Different X1200 issue

Hello! I've also bought a Toshiba (A215-S7422) and have since downgraded it from Vista to XP Pro.

After a lot of digging I've been able to get all the drivers I need, so I belive. The last driver was for the Radeon Mobility X1200.

I've followed the instructions here and have manually modified the INF file of the Catalys 7.11 by adding an entry for ati2mtag_RS690 w/ my video's ID. The driver was loaded successfuly and everything seemed to work fine.

I then attemped to watch a DVD movie using Windows Media Player (WMP)11 . I got an error indicating that it could not play the DVD due to a problem w/ digital copy protection between the DVD drive, decoder and video card. It went on to suggest that I upgrade my video card driver.

I then installed Nero Suite. I was able to "watch" the video, sort of. I didn't get the msg but the image was all chopped up.

Next, I downloaded the Mobility Catalyst 7.11 and again manually modified the INF file and later loaded it. This time I made an entry for ati2mtag_M52 instead.

I repeated the steps above to watch the same video and got the same results. Otherwise, my system seems to be working fine. What do you think the problem is?

I'd appreciate any help!
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Different X1200 issue

I've done a little more research and damage since my last post.

I've loaded a movie onto my hard drive and I was able to watch it just fine. That leads me to believe that the video card is fine.

I've checked the IDE channel for the DVD RAM and it was set to Ultra DMA Mode 2. I'm thinking that it should be faster than that, say Mode 5. This may be the problem.

In trying to fix this, I uninstalled the drivers for the DVD RAM (which seemed to have been a generic DVD/CD driver anyways) and the IDE (which used to say Primary IDE). I'm now stuck. Every time I launch XP Pro I get two messages for two newly found pieces of hardware, the MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ-850S and the IDE Controller. I'm worse off now :-((

Any help would be greately appreciated.
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Big Grin Diffrent X1200 problem

Hello again! Things are looking much better now.

After a lot of trial & error and the re-install of XP Pro, everything seems to be working now.

I'm now running WMP9, so I may have the security problem when I upgrade to WMP11. We'll see.

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exclamation other news about my problem...

Hello again Randomness,

I have some other informations: as you know, I have installed the Catalyst package (driver + manager)... now, if I go in Device Manager - Display Adapters and I select "update driver", the system will find allways "standard vga adapter" as "best driver" for my video card and will install it! Of course the image quality is not so good with this "standard vga adapter" but... all the graphics problems I have in Catia are GONE (ok, I have now bad resolution, so the icons are difficult to recognize)!!! So I don't have any problems with zoom and 3D rotation functions! Can we conclude now that the problem is not at the graphic card (as hardware) but only at the driver (software) which is not matching perfectly the card? Why doesn't identify Windows correctly my graphic card? Is there any software whic would detect more accurate my hardware devices?

Thank you in advance for your help.

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Same Problem, Different Machine using X1400

Can someone help me perform a similar task on my Lenovo T60 with an ATI Mobility x1400 instead? I've dowlnloaded the exe from the link provided but haven't modified the .inf file yet as I'm using a different chip. Ideas?
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Can someone help me perform a similar task on my Lenovo T60 with an ATI Mobility x1400 instead? I've dowlnloaded the exe from the link provided but haven't modified the .inf file yet as I'm using a different chip. Ideas?
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I assume that you downloaded the .exe from site sesa linked? I've looked the files in there and it looks to me that it is already modded set of drivers. But I'm not 100% sure about it. So the safe bet would be to download the drivers from the AMD's download site and mod them.
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Old Dec 15, 2007, 12:48 PM   #56
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Hello Randomness,

I didn't heard from you for a while... I think you have a lot of knowledge about problems with ati mobility, so please, if you can, help me further with an advice... (please see my last two posts in this thread).

Thank you very much in advance.
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Hello Conrad:

According to your diagnostic report in Post 25 of this thread, you installed the modded drivers correctly.

You mentioned that Everything was working "perfectly" in Post 47. Which driver was installed during that time.

You also emntioned that you "updated" the driver in your following post. Why?

Your system will not automatically select a modded driver when it searches for driver updates. Since your system doesn't have any "original" XP drivers, it will default to VGA driver, which does not provide any 3D Acceleration features available in the X1200 GPU core.

CATIA uses OpenGL Graphics libraries, which are included with the modded drivers i had posted at one point, however, there are some situations where they are not configured properly.

I suggest you do the following:

1) re-install the modded drivers, and Control Center.
I am still assuming you are using XP 64-bit.

2) download and run the OpenGL Extensions Viewer available here: OpenGL Extensions Viewer

Run the program, goto the "Extensions" Tab, and report what is being used as the Renderer. If something Generic is displayed relating to Windows XP GDI, and only Supporting Opgenl GL 1.1, then the libraries for the modded driver aren't being configured properly. If this is the cause, i will try figure out a registry tweak to correct this when time permits.

Best wishes, happy holidays, take care.

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glad to hear again from you!

Hello Randomness,

thank you for your reply. I'm trying to answer as short as possible to your questions:
- in post 47 I was talking about testing Solid Works on my laptop; apparently I have those graphic problems only in Catia, because in Solid Works none of mentioned problems occurs! It's strange because I know that both Catia and Solid Works are using OpenGL, so I should have graphic problems also in SW, right?
- I mentioned in a further post that I updated the driver, because I was still trying to find a solution to my Catia problems... But the point is: when I'm trying to update the driver of my graphic card and I let Windows to search for a better driver, it will allways choose "Standard VGA adapter"! I was just expected that Windows will propose an ATI driver... but anyway, if I accept and install that "Standard VGA adapter driver" as proposed, I will not have the graphic problems in Catia, but with the cost of a very bad resolution.
Finally, here is the report from OpenGL Extensions Viewer (as you observed, I'm running Windows XP Pro x64):

System Info
Windows XP Professional, x64 Edition

Vendor
ATI Technologies Inc.
2.0.7058 WinXP Release

Renderer
ATI Radeon X1200 Series Generic

Extensions
GL_ARB_depth_texture
GL_ARB_draw_buffers
GL_ARB_fragment_program
GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow
GL_ARB_fragment_shader
GL_ARB_multisample
GL_ARB_multitexture
GL_ARB_occlusion_query
GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object
GL_ARB_point_parameters
GL_ARB_point_sprite
GL_ARB_shader_objects
GL_ARB_shading_language_100
GL_ARB_shadow
GL_ARB_shadow_ambient
GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp
GL_ARB_texture_compression
GL_ARB_texture_cube_map
GL_ARB_texture_env_add
GL_ARB_texture_env_combine
GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar
GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3
GL_ARB_texture_float
GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat
GL_ARB_texture_rectangle
GL_ARB_transpose_matrix
GL_ARB_vertex_blend
GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object
GL_ARB_vertex_program
GL_ARB_vertex_shader
GL_ARB_window_pos
GL_ATI_draw_buffers
GL_ATI_envmap_bumpmap
GL_ATI_fragment_shader
GL_ATI_separate_stencil
GL_ATI_shader_texture_lod
GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3
GL_ATI_texture_float
GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once
GL_ATI_vertex_streams
GL_ATIX_texture_env_combine3
GL_ATIX_texture_env_route
GL_ATIX_vertex_shader_output_point_size
GL_EXT_abgr
GL_EXT_bgra
GL_EXT_blend_color
GL_EXT_blend_func_separate
GL_EXT_blend_minmax
GL_EXT_blend_subtract
GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint
GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array
GL_EXT_draw_range_elements
GL_EXT_fog_coord
GL_EXT_framebuffer_object
GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays
GL_EXT_packed_pixels
GL_EXT_point_parameters
GL_EXT_rescale_normal
GL_EXT_secondary_color
GL_EXT_separate_specular_color
GL_EXT_shadow_funcs
GL_EXT_stencil_wrap
GL_EXT_texgen_reflection
GL_EXT_texture3D
GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc
GL_EXT_texture_cube_map
GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp
GL_EXT_texture_env_add
GL_EXT_texture_env_combine
GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3
GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic
GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias
GL_EXT_texture_mirror_clamp
GL_EXT_texture_object
GL_EXT_texture_rectangle
GL_EXT_vertex_array
GL_EXT_vertex_shader
GL_HP_occlusion_test
GL_NV_blend_square
GL_NV_occlusion_query
GL_NV_texgen_reflection
GL_S3_s3tc
GL_SGI_color_matrix
GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap
GL_SGIS_multitexture
GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp
GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp
GL_SGIS_texture_lod
GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays
GL_WIN_swap_hint
WGL_ARB_extensions_string
WGL_ARB_make_current_read
WGL_ARB_multisample
WGL_ARB_pbuffer
WGL_ARB_pixel_format
WGL_ARB_render_texture
WGL_ATI_pixel_format_float
WGL_ATI_render_texture_rectangle
WGL_EXT_extensions_string
WGL_EXT_swap_control

Core features

v1.1 (100 % - 7/7)
v1.2 (100 % - 8/8)
v1.3 (100 % - 9/9)
v1.4 (100 % - 15/15)
v1.5 (100 % - 3/3)
v2.0 (100 % - 10/10)
v2.1 (33 % - 1/3)
OpenGL driver version check (Current: 6.14.10.7058, Latest known: 6.14.10.7058):
Latest version of display drivers found

According the database, you are running the latest display drivers for your video card.
Compiled vertex array support

This feature improves OpenGL performance by using video memory to cache transformed vertices.
Multitexture support

This feature accelerates complex rendering such as lightmaps or environment mapping.
Secondary color support

This feature provides an alternate method of coloring specular highlights on polygons.
S3TC compression support

This feature improves texture mapping performance in some applications by using lossy compression.
Texture edge clamp support

This feature improves texturing quality by adding clamping control to edge texel filtering.
Vertex program support

This feature enables a wide variety of effects via flexible vertex programming (equivalent to DX8 Vertex Shader.)
Fragment program support

This feature enables a wide variety of effects via per pixel programming (equivalent to DX9 Pixel Shader.)
Texture anisotropic filtering support

This feature improves the quality of texture mapping on oblique surfaces.
Occlusion test support

This feature provides hardware accelerated culling for objects.
Point sprite support

This feature improves performance in some particle systems.
OpenGL Shading Language support

This feature enables high level shading language for shaders.
Frame buffer object support

This feature enables render to texture functionality.
Extension verification:
GL_EXT_copy_texture was not found, but has the entry point glCopyTexSubImage3DEXT

GL_EXT_polygon_offset was not found, but has the entry point glPolygonOffsetEXT

GL_EXT_subtexture was not found, but has the entry point glTexSubImage3DEXT

Thank you in advance for your next reply.
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Hello,

I just finished "upgrading" my laptop (Toshiba A215 S4807) from Vista to XP, and the information I received here was my saving grace in getting my ATI display driver installed ! (and Toshiba said it couldn't be done...lol) I joined DriverHeaven just to thank you.

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Hello Conrad,

Sorry for the late reply...been very busy.

The OpenGL information and the information you provided from previous posts suggests that the modded driver is functioning correctly. Which probably means the slow down might be with an unrealted system component.

If your GPU is sharing system memory, that might be causing a bottle neck, which would explain why the older 9x00 card you mentioned would preform better, as it has dedicated memory, and hence a dedicated memory bus to use for itself.

Sorry i couldn't be of more help. Take care,

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