Stripes on whole Display

netx1 · Oct 12, 2007, 09:30 AM

Hy!
I've got following problem with my ATI Mobility Radeon X700 PCI/Express (128MB VRAM).

Sometimes when I change out of Games or other full-screen size functions to the Desktop my display displays real nonsense. I can't really describe it, but there are small stripes on the whole display (if this effect happens the next time I'll make a foto) and I can't recognize anything on the display.
This especially happens when I close full-screen sized DOS-functions.

Do get a normal picture on my display again, I've to change into hibernation mode and after the hibernation mode the display is normal again.

Why happens this failure or how can I avoid it?

PS: I'm using WinXP and Radeon Omega Driver v3.8.413

netx1 · Oct 30, 2007, 12:20 PM

So, here's now my promised pic.

I hope, you are now able to help me.

Your NetX 1

netx1 · Nov 1, 2007, 10:37 AM

has nobody of you got any problem like mine?

5zymon · Nov 2, 2007, 05:04 AM

Hello,

Yep i got the same problem! And i am so pissed on ati, i will never buy computer with this card again.

I have Toshiba m70-113 laptop with x700 mobile video card. This happens only if you change resolution, and ONLY on laptop screen, it doesn't happen if you attach external monitor. Because of this i am totaly unable to run linux on my laptop, because sometimes X starts and sometimes it does not ;-/.

It doesn't happen with drivers i got with my laptop. But they are very old and newer games don't work with them (graphic is smashed etc.). So this is not a solution for me.

I would be really happy if someone have solution for this problem

netx1 · Nov 2, 2007, 01:29 PM

@ 5zymon: "I love you, cause you are at last the first person which responds to my questions"

5zymon is right this error happens if you change your resolution. But I also think, this problem is not really caused by ATI the real origin of this error are the omega-drivers. (But playing games without them is impossible.)

But I think with the new omega-driver this problem happens fewer times than with the older omega-driver I had installed.

I hope, omegadrivers.net is able to fix that problem in the next releases.

Your NetX 1

5zymon · Nov 2, 2007, 01:34 PM

I hate to disappoint you, but i got the same effect on original catalyst drivers and on fglrx ATI module on linux system. And i am sure it is caused by ATIs ignorance to drivers and users.

CroniT · Nov 5, 2007, 06:31 AM

I have the same problem as you guys have. I'm using a acer 5024 with a 128mb x700 card.
The problem appears with the omega driver as well as the newest catalyst driver.
This problem started to occur a couple of driver versions before. I managed to use older drivers for a while where this problem wasn't existant but some of the latest games require me to use the newest catalyst drivers (or derivates of it) and it's started to drive me crazy already..

Please see if you can solve this, i beg you. If there's any relevant info i can give that will help i'll be happy to provide it.

5zymon · Nov 5, 2007, 06:38 AM

I have this problem fort one and a half year now. Since i got this laptop. And i don't even have a clue how can i solve this. It looks like it appears only on x700 mobility card. Like i told you, it is the same with new FGLRX linux module provided by ati. So there is some serious trouble with new ati drivers and i think that only they can solve this somehow. BUt if they did do it till now i really doubt there will be solution for this.

CroniT · Nov 5, 2007, 06:50 AM

Yep, I'm afraid that there will be no solution for this.
Not because they can't but simply because they wont even bother to try and fix it.

However.. There might be some kind of compability setting that i have missed? No?

marz8181 · Nov 8, 2007, 07:21 PM

I have this problem too...I removed the display drivers and used Drivercleaner.net with cab cleaner...now I get the lines not as often but the computer doesn't recognize the video card anymore! I'm trying to find drivers now for ATI mobility radeon x700 but when I ran the catalyst or modded drivers on driverheaven.net, I get a message that says this driver does not exist...anyone know where I can find and install the drivers? I tried to system restore but that failed as well.

marz8181 · Nov 8, 2007, 09:30 PM

Ok, i downloaded the correct drivers and catalyst, now I get a black screen and a weird noise when it crashes. Should I run the modded drivers.net?

ChaosMinionX · Nov 8, 2007, 09:45 PM

That is a video RAM error, its either dying or overheating, is there dust on your card at all?

I would use drivercleaner and clear out everything, and run a separate registry cleaner to just make sure, do it in safemode as well.

Other things to check would be to make sure your DVI or VGA cable is not damaged.

marz8181 · Nov 13, 2007, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX

That is a video RAM error, its either dying or overheating, is there dust on your card at all?

I would use drivercleaner and clear out everything, and run a separate registry cleaner to just make sure, do it in safemode as well.

Other things to check would be to make sure your DVI or VGA cable is not damaged.

Thanks for your advice Chaos. I basically wiped out the drivers and cab, downloaded and installed the updated drivers and catalyst form ATI, and the problem was worse, now causing a black screen without reboot. I talked to a service rep at Micro Center and he said that it sounds like the Motherboard or VGA cable is messed up but he's leaning toward the motherboard. He said it would cost $600 US to diagnose and fix the problem !! So i'm looking into buying a gaming PC. Do you have any suggestions on specs and places I can buy from that won't give me a shitty motherboard? Thanks again
MarZ

niksus2 · Nov 14, 2007, 12:09 PM

Actually the problem is purely driver related and not hardware failure.
I've tested all version drivers starting from Catalyst 7.10 back to 6.4, which came out to be the last driver that works ok.

I've used mod tool with official drivers + the same X700 Mobility 128RAM bundled in Acer laptop.

marz8181 · Nov 14, 2007, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niksus2

Actually the problem is purely driver related and not hardware failure.
I've tested all version drivers starting from Catalyst 7.10 back to 6.4, which came out to be the last driver that works ok.

I've used mod tool with official drivers + the same X700 Mobility 128RAM bundled in Acer laptop.

Hi niksus,
Thanks for your help. I'm not sure what you mean, tho. Should I download the official ATI drivers for the mobility radeon x700 from the ATI website as well as catalyst 6.4 and then use the modded drivers app from driverheaven? Is the 6.4 catalyst better for my problem then ver. 7.10? Any help is much appreciated.

niksus2 · Nov 15, 2007, 12:31 AM

Sorry, if I wasn't so clear - english is not my native language.

I was not able to download official drivers for Mobility Radeon X700, but official non-mobility X700 driver will do the trick, as that's what DH Mobility Modder is doing.

You should download DriverHeaven Mobility Modder, following the instructions there you should do it's magic with official Catalyst 6.4 drivers.
Afterwards ... well enjoy your not-blocking computer

Btw a simple uninstall of the previous drivers was enough for me. No need for driver cleanup tool - just overwrite the newer files during the install of the old driver over the new one.

marz8181 · Nov 15, 2007, 11:10 PM

Well I tried all that, still same problems. I think it's the motherboard

niksus2 · Nov 16, 2007, 12:31 AM

Do you have a driver from your manufacturer? You can try with it. I really doubt that when you bought your computer, there was such a problem. If it's not hardware problem, you will find out.

I have a driver provided by Acer (my laptop manufacturer), although it's very old, my laptop is working ok with it. After I've changed it with 7.10 (because of some game), this problem started. So that's why I was sure that it's driver related and started my quest to find the last stable.

marz8181 · Nov 16, 2007, 12:54 AM

I'll try again with the catalyst 6.4 drivers. Thanks again for your input

netx1 · Nov 16, 2007, 04:45 AM

Is there now any stable and good Driver for Mobility X700 available?

(This means without the "stripe-error" and good enough for actual games.)

niksus2 · Nov 16, 2007, 10:21 AM

Looks like I'm expressing really weird.

Yes, there is such a driver - Catalyst 6.4
I don't know if it will be good enough for you. For me it is - Crysis is working with it

If you still can't understand the solution, I might try to "translate" my posts in more simplier terms. I'm willing to do so, as this problem is the most annoying driver problem that I've ever met, and I'll gladly help anyone get rid of it.

marz8181 · Nov 16, 2007, 07:26 PM

I used the catalyst 6.4 but have the 7.10 drivers installed. It worked for about 30 minutes then crashed again...should I remove the drivers and install the 6.4 drivers?

niksus2 · Nov 17, 2007, 04:42 AM

Yes, you should first remove the old drivers.

You may try with driver cleanup tool too.

netx1 · Nov 19, 2007, 08:58 AM

Sorry niksus2, of course I understand your English (it's pretty good).

Apparently I've missed, that this question was posted before.

But thanks for your help and post if there are new drivers or other solutions.

Xagest · Nov 19, 2007, 04:37 PM

ATI seems to be notorious for letting this happen very often.

I get the same problem if I install anything higher than Catalyst 5.4 on my ZT3000 Radeon 9200 Mobility. So far, the only solution I have is to use Catalyst 5.4

niksus2 · Nov 19, 2007, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by netx1

But thanks for your help and post if there are new drivers or other solutions.

You're welcome.
I don't think that I will follow any new drivers from ATi, as this problem obviously exist for a long time and it is still unattended (refering Xagest's post). Maybe I'll take a look every now and then at this thread and at Omega Drivers changelog, but frankly I don't believe that this problem will be properly solved - if official drivers are lacking support for 2-year old video cards...

marz8181 · Nov 19, 2007, 09:59 PM

I agree...I think I'm going to go with GeForce for my next computer.

Dyre Straits · Nov 19, 2007, 10:41 PM

For the record, ATI is not responsible for providing support for mobility video cards. It's the laptop/notebook company that's responsible for such drivers and updates. ATI makes an effort to do so, but, it's not their job to do it. It's done voluntarily.

ATI, however, has already stated that they will no longer support DX8 or previous video cards with updated drivers. It's the same that they won't support Windows 9x or previous OS. The limitation has to begin somewhere.

nithron · Nov 20, 2007, 07:12 AM

I have the exact same card as the original poster, in an Acer Aspire 3020wmli, with the exact same problem. Anyway, installing the old(virtually ancient) 6.4 drivers has actually worked, and I no longer have this problem, except... the drivers don't work all that great with some recent games.

I suppose you can't have it all though, eh?

niksus2 · Nov 20, 2007, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyre Straits

For the record, ATI is not responsible for providing support for mobility video cards. It's the laptop/notebook company that's responsible for such drivers and updates.

I can't agree with you, though I don't know what's really the truth. I don't know eather if officially a laptop manufacturer is more responsible for those drivers than any other OEM/Retail manufacturer of the same card. As obviously none of them is making so much drivers as Ati, but still all non-mobile cards are running ok with reference drivers.
From my point of view the mobility and non-mobility reference drivers are not so different, since the mod tool exist at all (I don't try by any means to depreciate the efforts and the great job done by it's developers). So I basically consider them as a single core and I think that there is a problem with the official Ati driver in general - as I've discovered for about 20 consecutive versions.

I'm curious if all Mobility X700 cards from supported by Catalyst Mobility manufacturers are lacking this problem, when reference drivers are used.

And just for the record Ati Mobility Radeon X700 is discrete card (not a build-in one; that's why I'm willing to share the responsibility between OEM and Ati), it's not DX8 card and as I see it still has Ati in its name.

Oct 12, 2007, 09:30 AM	#1
netx1 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	Stripes on whole Display Hy! I've got following problem with my ATI Mobility Radeon X700 PCI/Express (128MB VRAM). Sometimes when I change out of Games or other full-screen size functions to the Desktop my display displays real nonsense. I can't really describe it, but there are small stripes on the whole display (if this effect happens the next time I'll make a foto) and I can't recognize anything on the display. This especially happens when I close full-screen sized DOS-functions. Do get a normal picture on my display again, I've to change into hibernation mode and after the hibernation mode the display is normal again. Why happens this failure or how can I avoid it? PS: I'm using WinXP and Radeon Omega Driver v3.8.413 Last edited by netx1; Oct 13, 2007 at 07:16 AM. Reason: to get more attention

Nov 8, 2007, 09:45 PM	#12
ChaosMinionX USB 3 dot oh Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: New York Posts: 2,182 Rep Power: 31 System Specs	That is a video RAM error, its either dying or overheating, is there dust on your card at all? I would use drivercleaner and clear out everything, and run a separate registry cleaner to just make sure, do it in safemode as well. Other things to check would be to make sure your DVI or VGA cable is not damaged. __________________ ::Heatware:: How you can help DriverHeaven by using Digg!

Nov 14, 2007, 12:09 PM	#14
niksus2 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Actually the problem is purely driver related and not hardware failure. I've tested all version drivers starting from Catalyst 7.10 back to 6.4, which came out to be the last driver that works ok. I've used mod tool with official drivers + the same X700 Mobility 128RAM bundled in Acer laptop. Last edited by niksus2; Nov 14, 2007 at 04:43 PM.

Oct 30, 2007, 12:20 PM	#2
netx1 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	So, here's now my promised pic. I hope, you are now able to help me. Your NetX 1

Nov 1, 2007, 10:37 AM	#3
netx1 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	has nobody of you got any problem like mine?

Nov 2, 2007, 05:04 AM	#4
5zymon DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Hello, Yep i got the same problem! And i am so pissed on ati, i will never buy computer with this card again. I have Toshiba m70-113 laptop with x700 mobile video card. This happens only if you change resolution, and ONLY on laptop screen, it doesn't happen if you attach external monitor. Because of this i am totaly unable to run linux on my laptop, because sometimes X starts and sometimes it does not ;-/. It doesn't happen with drivers i got with my laptop. But they are very old and newer games don't work with them (graphic is smashed etc.). So this is not a solution for me. I would be really happy if someone have solution for this problem

Nov 2, 2007, 01:29 PM	#5
netx1 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	@ 5zymon: "I love you, cause you are at last the first person which responds to my questions" 5zymon is right this error happens if you change your resolution. But I also think, this problem is not really caused by ATI the real origin of this error are the omega-drivers. (But playing games without them is impossible.) But I think with the new omega-driver this problem happens fewer times than with the older omega-driver I had installed. I hope, omegadrivers.net is able to fix that problem in the next releases. Your NetX 1

Nov 2, 2007, 01:34 PM	#6
5zymon DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	I hate to disappoint you, but i got the same effect on original catalyst drivers and on fglrx ATI module on linux system. And i am sure it is caused by ATIs ignorance to drivers and users.

Nov 5, 2007, 06:31 AM	#7
CroniT DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	I have the same problem as you guys have. I'm using a acer 5024 with a 128mb x700 card. The problem appears with the omega driver as well as the newest catalyst driver. This problem started to occur a couple of driver versions before. I managed to use older drivers for a while where this problem wasn't existant but some of the latest games require me to use the newest catalyst drivers (or derivates of it) and it's started to drive me crazy already.. Please see if you can solve this, i beg you. If there's any relevant info i can give that will help i'll be happy to provide it.

Nov 5, 2007, 06:38 AM	#8
5zymon DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	I have this problem fort one and a half year now. Since i got this laptop. And i don't even have a clue how can i solve this. It looks like it appears only on x700 mobility card. Like i told you, it is the same with new FGLRX linux module provided by ati. So there is some serious trouble with new ati drivers and i think that only they can solve this somehow. BUt if they did do it till now i really doubt there will be solution for this.

Nov 5, 2007, 06:50 AM	#9
CroniT DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Yep, I'm afraid that there will be no solution for this. Not because they can't but simply because they wont even bother to try and fix it. However.. There might be some kind of compability setting that i have missed? No?

Nov 8, 2007, 07:21 PM	#10
marz8181 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	I have this problem too...I removed the display drivers and used Drivercleaner.net with cab cleaner...now I get the lines not as often but the computer doesn't recognize the video card anymore! I'm trying to find drivers now for ATI mobility radeon x700 but when I ran the catalyst or modded drivers on driverheaven.net, I get a message that says this driver does not exist...anyone know where I can find and install the drivers? I tried to system restore but that failed as well.

Nov 8, 2007, 09:30 PM	#11
marz8181 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	Ok, i downloaded the correct drivers and catalyst, now I get a black screen and a weird noise when it crashes. Should I run the modded drivers.net?

Nov 15, 2007, 12:31 AM	#16
niksus2 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Sorry, if I wasn't so clear - english is not my native language. I was not able to download official drivers for Mobility Radeon X700, but official non-mobility X700 driver will do the trick, as that's what DH Mobility Modder is doing. You should download DriverHeaven Mobility Modder, following the instructions there you should do it's magic with official Catalyst 6.4 drivers. Afterwards ... well enjoy your not-blocking computer Btw a simple uninstall of the previous drivers was enough for me. No need for driver cleanup tool - just overwrite the newer files during the install of the old driver over the new one.

Nov 15, 2007, 11:10 PM	#17
marz8181 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	Well I tried all that, still same problems. I think it's the motherboard

Nov 16, 2007, 12:31 AM	#18
niksus2 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Do you have a driver from your manufacturer? You can try with it. I really doubt that when you bought your computer, there was such a problem. If it's not hardware problem, you will find out. I have a driver provided by Acer (my laptop manufacturer), although it's very old, my laptop is working ok with it. After I've changed it with 7.10 (because of some game), this problem started. So that's why I was sure that it's driver related and started my quest to find the last stable.

Nov 16, 2007, 12:54 AM	#19
marz8181 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	I'll try again with the catalyst 6.4 drivers. Thanks again for your input

Nov 16, 2007, 04:45 AM	#20
netx1 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	Is there now any stable and good Driver for Mobility X700 available? (This means without the "stripe-error" and good enough for actual games.)

Nov 16, 2007, 10:21 AM	#21
niksus2 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Looks like I'm expressing really weird. Yes, there is such a driver - Catalyst 6.4 I don't know if it will be good enough for you. For me it is - Crysis is working with it If you still can't understand the solution, I might try to "translate" my posts in more simplier terms. I'm willing to do so, as this problem is the most annoying driver problem that I've ever met, and I'll gladly help anyone get rid of it.

Nov 16, 2007, 07:26 PM	#22
marz8181 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	I used the catalyst 6.4 but have the 7.10 drivers installed. It worked for about 30 minutes then crashed again...should I remove the drivers and install the 6.4 drivers?

Nov 17, 2007, 04:42 AM	#23
niksus2 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Yes, you should first remove the old drivers. You may try with driver cleanup tool too.

Nov 19, 2007, 08:58 AM	#24
netx1 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	Sorry niksus2, of course I understand your English (it's pretty good). Apparently I've missed, that this question was posted before. But thanks for your help and post if there are new drivers or other solutions.

Nov 19, 2007, 04:37 PM	#25
Xagest DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	ATI seems to be notorious for letting this happen very often. I get the same problem if I install anything higher than Catalyst 5.4 on my ZT3000 Radeon 9200 Mobility. So far, the only solution I have is to use Catalyst 5.4

Nov 19, 2007, 09:59 PM	#27
marz8181 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	I agree...I think I'm going to go with GeForce for my next computer.

Nov 20, 2007, 07:12 AM	#29
nithron DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	I have the exact same card as the original poster, in an Acer Aspire 3020wmli, with the exact same problem. Anyway, installing the old(virtually ancient) 6.4 drivers has actually worked, and I no longer have this problem, except... the drivers don't work all that great with some recent games. I suppose you can't have it all though, eh?