What do you want to see from ATI's drivers in the future? [POLL VERSION]

RIV@NVX · Oct 1, 2005, 09:21 AM

So, here is the requested poll version of ATI driver suggestion thread. Stuff like speed/stability isn't included in the poll, since ATI already knows we want that, don't they?

So, tick the ones you care about and leave the ones you don't care about. Feel free to add more, as I have probably forgotten something.

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* INSTALLATION: Improved installer, with GTK2 and QT frontends instead of GTK1; improved fglrxconfig, that touches only the minimum it needs
* CONTROL PANEL: Improved Control Panel or ported CCC, that allows to configure everything that is possible, replacing fglrxconfig as much as possible, with both GTK2 and QT frontends, and options comparable to windows version (forced FSAA and Aniso, etc.)
* CONFIGURATION: ~/.drirc configuration (different settings for different apps)
* OVERCLOCKING: Overclocking options in Control Panel, with options such as POWERPLAY and OVERDRIVE
* KERNEL-LEVEL: Deprecation of internal agpgart, submitting the patches to kernel; better compatibility with radeonfb kernel driver, no MTRR conflicts/overlaps when using radeonfb (or even vesafb) kernel driver, make DRI work even when DRM is enabled in kernel
* X/DRI: add RENDER, DAMAGE, COMPOSITE, EXA, xgl support, fix 2D issues
* OpenGL: Support for more extensions
* COMPATIBILITY: Better compatibility with WINE and Cedega
* TV/DISPLAY: HDTV and SDTV resolutions, improved multi-monitor support
* PLATFORM SUPPORT: FreeBSD and OpenSolaris driver

Moshroum · Oct 1, 2005, 03:58 PM

To clarify some stuff:

KERNEL-LEVEL: Deprecation of internal agpgart (I had the same idea some time ago, but forgot to cry somewhere )
X/DRI: EXA and 2d fixes
OpenGL: Not really the support of more extensions, but elimination of known opengl bugs
COMPATIBILITY: shouldnt be a problem when ati fixes the opengl bugs and transgaming learns to code not only for "nvidia bugs"
It should not be extra work to develop for cedega, but when it helps to get a better opengl driver...it is ok. I hope there is some kind of dialogue between transgaming and ati, so nothing "wrong" will be adopted to get some game in cedega working.
[edit]jec0s said something about 16bit mode which is really a point I forgot when I read "WINE/Cedega Compatibility". It is really something which isnt covered by other points[/edit]

jec0s · Oct 1, 2005, 05:44 PM

Guys Please dont select them all at once.. or else the poll is useless.

RIV@NVX · Oct 2, 2005, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jec0s

Guys Please dont select them all at once.. or else the poll is useless.

I put a multi-selection poll because it would be totally pointless to limit everyone to just one option. However, as jec0s says, please don't select all

I suggest selecting 3-4 options at most.

*mtippett* · Oct 2, 2005, 09:10 AM

driconf support was added in 8.16.

RIV@NVX · Oct 3, 2005, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mtippett

driconf support was added in 8.16.

I haven't tried it due to the conflict between fglrx and radeonfb; it's one feature down, many to go, but progressing, I guess

Now, if we could only configure it via control panel (like in Windows Catalyst), that would be really nice.

mactalla · Oct 3, 2005, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RIV@NVX

So, tick the ones you care about and leave the ones you don't care about. Feel free to add more, as I have probably forgotten something.

I don't know how to add more. Perhaps I'm blind. Perhaps insufficient permissions. But the single most important feature request for me is:

* Laptop support: allow suspending _and_resuming_ of the computer without fglrx freezing the computer (see ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9 ...yes it's an old request)

jec0s · Oct 3, 2005, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RIV@NVX

Now, if we could only configure it via control panel (like in Windows Catalyst), that would be really nice.

Thats what DRICONF is for! (it works for now)

Sorry to barge-in I have to get this off my chest:

Screw any control panel for now!! get the driver working first. Atleast get it on par with nvidia as to number of games it can run solidly ..

Tired of seeing "This game won't work on ATI cards" "16bit mode??? hrmmm"

Please get this priority straight!

Thank you

RIV@NVX · Oct 4, 2005, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jec0s

Thats what DRICONF is for! (it works for now)

That's one cool piece of software! I didn't know that it was so usable and good looking.

UberLord · Oct 5, 2005, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mtippett

driconf support was added in 8.16.

True enough, but afaik it's only for vsync.

Hopefully we'll be able to set fsaa and aniso options via driconf as well - which is what the option is about imo

But that only becomes valid when the driver supports these

RIV@NVX · Oct 5, 2005, 09:54 AM

Speaking of 8.16 drivers, did ATI do anything related to resolutions support. I ask because my xorg.conf has only "1280x800" entry, and it works OK when using "ati" instead of "fglrx".

However, once I switch to fglrx (by changing *only* that line), I can only use "1280x768", "1024x768", "800x600" and "640x480", even I *have*not* specified any of them in xorg.conf, but only "1280x800".

How so?

jec0s · Oct 5, 2005, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RIV@NVX

Speaking of 8.16 drivers, did ATI do anything related to resolutions support. I ask because my xorg.conf has only "1280x800" entry, and it works OK when using "ati" instead of "fglrx".

However, once I switch to fglrx (by changing *only* that line), I can only use "1280x768", "1024x768", "800x600" and "640x480", even I *have*not* specified any of them in xorg.conf, but only "1280x800".

How so?

Seems alot of people couldn't use 8.16 b/c resolutions were messed up and limited..

RIV@NVX · Oct 5, 2005, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jec0s

Seems alot of people couldn't use 8.16 b/c resolutions were messed up and limited..

Aha, ok, good then, I thought it's only me.

jec0s · Oct 5, 2005, 02:20 PM

I'm just dieing to try the next driver coming out this month!! please spill some facts Matthew

black hole sun · Oct 12, 2005, 06:08 PM

I definitley think the internal AGPGART needs to be deprecated/removed...gives me and many others nothing but trouble. Submit the changes to the lkml!

Though, I'd kill to see CCC ported to Linux in Mono