• Home
  • Reviews
  • Articles
  • News
  • Tools
  • GamingHeaven
  • Forums
  • Network
 

Go Back   DriverHeaven.net > Forums > Software / Tools > Linux Operating Systems

Notices

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old Jan 25, 2005, 12:43 AM   #1
DriverHeaven Extreme Member
 
Necrosis's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Ohio
Posts: 8,479
Necrosis will become famous soon enough
System Specs

??? Best Live CD

I'm just curious which is really the best, and has the most features? Last time I had Linux installed on my laptop my wireless card never worked.
Necrosis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 25, 2005, 06:07 AM   #2
md5
DriverHeaven Senior Member
 
md5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Inside DriverHeaven
Posts: 856
md5 is on a distinguished road

Depends on what you mean by "best". Each LiveCD has different features. A really popular LiveCD distro is Knoppix
http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html
http://www.knoppix.net/

but there are many others
md5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 25, 2005, 06:02 PM   #3
DriverHeaven Extreme Member
 
Necrosis's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Ohio
Posts: 8,479
Necrosis will become famous soon enough
System Specs

Well I'm thinking of doing this on my laptop like i said so namely something all around stuff. I know not very technical, but if I like what I see and my wireless works. I'll just wipe the windows install off it.
Necrosis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 26, 2005, 12:24 AM   #4
DriverHeaven Extreme Member
 
Necrosis's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Ohio
Posts: 8,479
Necrosis will become famous soon enough
System Specs

I can't believe I actually finally figured it out!!! Ha, ha yes I'm finally on-line /w Knoppix and my laptop /w wireless. Now I just need to figure out how to install it on my HD!! I love it so far, not much different than windows really. Of course most of the root commands leave me puzzled.
Necrosis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 26, 2005, 04:39 AM   #5
md5
DriverHeaven Senior Member
 
md5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Inside DriverHeaven
Posts: 856
md5 is on a distinguished road

Glad you liked it
md5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 26, 2005, 04:37 PM   #6
Freedom is a feature.
 
RIV@NVX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Croatia, Rijeka
Posts: 4,404
RIV@NVX is on a distinguished road
System Specs

Necrosis, if you are willing to experiment some more, I also suggest MandrakeMove and Gnoppix; I haven't tried them myslef, but I heard good things about both.

There are also SuSE LiveCD distro and Damn Small Linux, but I haven't heard anything about those. I think even Gentoo (cough, UberLord's favourite distro) has LiveCD version... so, lots of choices here.
RIV@NVX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 26, 2005, 09:46 PM   #7
DriverHeaven Extreme Member
 
Necrosis's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Ohio
Posts: 8,479
Necrosis will become famous soon enough
System Specs

I have good news and bad news. First the bad news. Knoppix...tonight I cannot get my wireless card working again. However, I also have Mepis which works but still doesn't auto configure the card. I had to do it manually but it works how it should /w the correct commands no weird routing commands or anything. I'm just trying to find something to start me off with. However, I know one this Kopete sucks!!
Necrosis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 27, 2005, 06:27 AM   #8
A Legend in Underwear
 
UberLord's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Unknown
Posts: 5,256
UberLord is on a distinguished road

I don't recommend the Gentoo LiveCD for anything except system repair or installation.
I'm not entirely certain that the current LiveCD's even have wireless networking on them - although it should be on the 2005.0 release (albiet manual setup)
UberLord is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 27, 2005, 06:30 PM   #9
DriverHeaven Extreme Member
 
Necrosis's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Ohio
Posts: 8,479
Necrosis will become famous soon enough
System Specs

Mepis has KWiFiManger /w it but it doesn't really work well. I do it all by command line. Weird thing is it also doesn't intialize my built in ethernet either. When I install Mepis how do I go about making it setup my wireless card during boot up?
Necrosis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 28, 2005, 12:56 AM   #10
DriverHeaven Extreme Member
 
Necrosis's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Ohio
Posts: 8,479
Necrosis will become famous soon enough
System Specs

Another question. If your in the command console how do you switch to a different partition. I'm trying to install flash for Firefox.

Also what is a good anti-virus for linux, what about spyware?
Necrosis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 28, 2005, 06:04 AM   #11
Freedom is a feature.
 
RIV@NVX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Croatia, Rijeka
Posts: 4,404
RIV@NVX is on a distinguished road
System Specs

There is AVG for Linux, but unfortunately not free :-(
I heard about ClamAV, but I'm not sure how good is it, but it's free and you can check it out on http://www.clamav.net/

Even if you don't find a good anti-virus, viruses generally aren't a problem on Linux platform, so you don't have to worry. :-p

EDIT: Read on /. about it, released yesterday. If you want to try some more, Ubuntu isn't a bad idea: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/h...rray-3.5-live/

Last edited by RIV@NVX; Jan 28, 2005 at 06:15 AM.
RIV@NVX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 28, 2005, 08:59 PM   #12
DriverHeaven Extreme Member
 
Necrosis's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Ohio
Posts: 8,479
Necrosis will become famous soon enough
System Specs

I've figured out by adding the switch -m to ndiswrapper it will setup the inf driver to load at boot-up. Also read to just install flash to copy it from my Mozilla setup. However, I still would like to know how to change partitions in the command console. So far I'm running loving Linux, though it does sound weird not to worry about virus's.
Necrosis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 29, 2005, 06:09 AM   #13
md5
DriverHeaven Senior Member
 
md5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Inside DriverHeaven
Posts: 856
md5 is on a distinguished road

Usually you don't have to worry about viruses in Linux, because you're logged in as a user, not as root, so even if you did get a virus from somewhere, it wouldn't do any major damage. Viruses wouldn't be so widespread in Windows if people used a user/power user account to perform tasks instead of an administrative one.

Partitions are mounted as directories in Linux
Have a look at the mount command and its manual page (type man mount)

You usually type something like
mount /dev/hda1
where hd: specifies that you're mounting a hard drive
a: first HD
1: first partition

but you'll have to edit your /etc/fstab file as well

Have a look here:
http://enterprise.linux.com/article..../09/14/1516241
md5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 29, 2005, 04:41 PM   #14
DriverHeaven Extreme Member
 
Necrosis's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Ohio
Posts: 8,479
Necrosis will become famous soon enough
System Specs

Thanks for the info. I think the reason I'm not so take back by Linux is I'm an old dos user, plus remember tinkering /w the old IIc years.
Necrosis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 2, 2005, 11:27 PM   #15
DriverHeaven Senior Member
 
ChoGGi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Toronto
Posts: 1,202
ChoGGi is on a distinguished road

for those that dont read slashdot., a review of 18 livecds
http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=9569
ChoGGi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 5, 2005, 03:40 PM   #16
DriverHeaven Extreme Member
 
Necrosis's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Ohio
Posts: 8,479
Necrosis will become famous soon enough
System Specs

All I can say is WOW. Last night I loaded ProMEPIS...formated...and installed it. I was having an issue after I upgraded my HD in my laptop. Needless to say it has Gnome & KDE. The best part....

I left my wireless card out of the laptop because I was having some drivers issues /w the new install of SimplyMepis. Loaded up Pro, and then decided to put the card back in while at the GUI to reboot to see what it would do. Low and behold....I put the card it......recognized and up about 2 seconds after inserting the card. No drivers, no configuring anything. I've never seen windows ever do that. Pro also comes with Firefox as it's default browser..so I didn't need to download anything. It's getting so bad now, well I'm only using my main PC to do four things.

1. Game

2. Microsoft Visio

3. Audio editing

4. DVD/Video

I'm still a noob so I'm still learning, but I'm just amazed it's all free!!

I thought you guys would find these shots interesting.


Last edited by Necrosis; Feb 5, 2005 at 04:05 PM.
Necrosis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 7, 2005, 08:58 AM   #17
Freedom is a feature.
 
RIV@NVX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Croatia, Rijeka
Posts: 4,404
RIV@NVX is on a distinguished road
System Specs

Cool! I always prefer KDE on laptops because of battery meter, and you apparently have a laptop.
Does this mean that fglrx driver is integrated in ProMEPIS?
RIV@NVX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 7, 2005, 09:00 AM   #18
A Legend in Underwear
 
UberLord's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Unknown
Posts: 5,256
UberLord is on a distinguished road

Quote:
Originally Posted by RIV@NVX
Cool! I always prefer KDE on laptops because of battery meter, and you apparently have a laptop.
GNOME has a battery meter
XFCE has a battey meter also
UberLord is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 8, 2005, 04:16 AM   #19
Freedom is a feature.
 
RIV@NVX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Croatia, Rijeka
Posts: 4,404
RIV@NVX is on a distinguished road
System Specs

Quote:
Originally Posted by UberLord
GNOME has a battery meter
XFCE has a battey meter also
It does? Then it certainly doesn't come with FC3 by default...
RIV@NVX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 11, 2005, 09:59 AM   #20
DriverHeaven Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 15
Grizzlie is on a distinguished road

PCLinuxOS, Simply-Mepis, and Knoppix are the best imho
Grizzlie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 11, 2005, 10:33 AM   #21
md5
DriverHeaven Senior Member
 
md5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Inside DriverHeaven
Posts: 856
md5 is on a distinguished road

Quote:
I'm only using my main PC to do four things.

1. Game
2. Microsoft Visio
3. Audio editing
4. DVD/Video
While not as good as Visio, you might want to have a look at Dia:
http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/

For audio editing, have a look at the very good Audacity:
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

They both have versions for Linux and Windows

For video editing, have a look at cinerella (never used it, but I've heard it's good):
http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3

For playing Windows games under Linux, have a look at Cedega (formerly winex):
http://www.transgaming.com/

You might also be interested in these pages:
Sound and midi software for Linux: http://linux-sound.org/
The table of equivalents / replacements / analogs of Windows software in Linux:
http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-l...en/table.shtml
md5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 13, 2005, 04:26 AM   #22
DriverHeaven Extreme Member
 
Necrosis's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Ohio
Posts: 8,479
Necrosis will become famous soon enough
System Specs

Quote:
Originally Posted by md5
While not as good as Visio, you might want to have a look at Dia:
http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/

For audio editing, have a look at the very good Audacity:
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

They both have versions for Linux and Windows

For video editing, have a look at cinerella (never used it, but I've heard it's good):
http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3

For playing Windows games under Linux, have a look at Cedega (formerly winex):
http://www.transgaming.com/

You might also be interested in these pages:
Sound and midi software for Linux: http://linux-sound.org/
The table of equivalents / replacements / analogs of Windows software in Linux:
http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-l...en/table.shtml
Thanks for the links. I just downloaded Opera awhile to go try out. It seems rather good so far under Linux. However, fonts look weird /w vBullentin.
Necrosis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 13, 2005, 04:27 AM   #23
DriverHeaven Extreme Member
 
Necrosis's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Ohio
Posts: 8,479
Necrosis will become famous soon enough
System Specs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grizzlie
PCLinuxOS, Simply-Mepis, and Knoppix are the best imho
If you like SimplyMEPIS you'll love Pro, it's like Knoppix but works more hardware with less hassle.
Necrosis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 14, 2005, 06:43 PM   #24
DriverHeaven Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 15
Grizzlie is on a distinguished road

I saw by the screenies above that Pro looked good... and has it's own ati tab.

The only thing I didn't like about Simply was that I had to manually uninstall a bunch of nvidia specific modules before installing my fglrx radeon drivers.

This really is a minor sticking point though and only noobs will have real trouble with this kind of issue.

When I reformat my 2nd linux drive I may give Pro a shot. Thanks for the heads up.
Grizzlie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun 4, 2005, 08:36 PM   #25
-=[DHzer0point Author]=-
 
Blackboost's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 0
Blackboost is a glorious beacon of lightBlackboost is a glorious beacon of lightBlackboost is a glorious beacon of lightBlackboost is a glorious beacon of lightBlackboost is a glorious beacon of lightBlackboost is a glorious beacon of light

Holy sh&t!!! I just tried Ubuntu 5.04 Live CD and fell in love with it!!! I must say that was always skeptical of trying anything Linux, but after running this my way of thinking just changed completely. I'm going to get another HD just to run Linux since my curiosity just got a posite boost!!! Another Linux noob to the list!!
Blackboost is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun 4, 2005, 11:31 PM   #26
Mars
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 2,927
Zelig will become famous soon enoughZelig will become famous soon enough
System Specs

Knoppix 3.9 is released.
Zelig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun 5, 2005, 05:40 AM   #27
Freedom is a feature.
 
RIV@NVX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Croatia, Rijeka
Posts: 4,404