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Old Jan 30, 2007, 11:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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cant install Any Linux

hey guyz, i'm one very frustrated newbie to linux. I've myself installed Suse 10.1 ,10.2 on many machines bu cant install on my own....i'm giving my configuration

Intel 945 GNT Motherboard
Pentium D 2.66 G Processor
nVidia 7300LE card
1Gb RAM DDR2 533MHz

Now the problem with all the linux i've tried is SATA problem from fedora to RedHat to Ubuntu and many others as well..but Suse was the one i've found which is simple and solves SATA problem...

But on my side Suse (all versions) simply hangs on first reboot showing some error relating to udev deamon and printing the stack trace....

Sometimes freezes after
agpgart: 7983 Stolen MEMORY Detected
[Freeze]

Sometimes(when i boot from DVD-->boot installed system) freeze after
Starting udevd
[freezes]
[No stack trace this time]

Theres no problem with normal installation and installation is always successful

reading many replies on other threads i saw these problems

1) AHCI enable : I found no option for the same on my BIOS
2) APIC disable : I've tried this but installation doesn't proceed after loading kernel
3) MD5 Check : Checked several times always same result

Now could someone please suggest some solution please..I'll be thankful
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Old Jan 31, 2007, 04:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
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as i recall i did not experience any problem installing Linuxes on Intel 945G/ICH7 chipsets motherboard + SATA hard drive.


i haven't checked into your motherboard specs, however, unless your motherboard is using ICH7R (which also included SATA RAID) and you are running a Windows/linux dual boot and also want to use AHCI SATA mode in Windows.
then, otherwise, i have suspected that your motherboard uses ICH7 (with no SATA RAID included in the chip) as part of its chipsets. anyway, try loading BIOS default settings... you can leave SATA mode settings alone there should not be any problem with the default settings. also, you may want to try running memtest on your system to verify the system conditions, and also unplug all USB devices before running the Linux OS setup. see if one these helps.

anyway, this is another story, as for people who has a 'CD/DVD not found' problem when trying to install openSUSE 10.2 on the Intel P965 (may be include G965/Q965) + ICH8R (+ JMicron) based motherboard that has no native PATA support, and instead using the JMicron chip for its PATA controller, and while your hard drive(s) are using ports of the ICH8R and your PATA DVD drives is under the port of the JMicron chip...

the workaround for this problem which myself have suceesfully tested it out is to set in the BIOS for the JMicron controller to be in AHCI mode, and at the very first phase of the setup add "insmod=pata_jmicron' to the boot options.

and as for your info, this problem is not exist in the latest release of Fedora Core 6.

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Old Jan 31, 2007, 05:09 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Mandrake Linux work ok? It might work to help prep the drive, and then you can wipe out the data on the drive (don't nuke the whole partition, just get rid of the data) and try installing Suse where Mandrake (Mandriva - stupid name change, by the way) was and see if that works?
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Old Jan 31, 2007, 05:22 AM   #4 (permalink)
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what are you talking about? DudeBoyz.
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Old Jan 31, 2007, 05:51 AM   #5 (permalink)
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what are you talking about? DudeBoyz.
That wasn't clear enough?

Suse has had issues properly setting up the main and swap partitions, but if you use another distro to prep the drives with the Linux files sytem, swap file, etc. some of these issues are avoided.

You do frequent Usenet, right?
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Old Jan 31, 2007, 06:12 AM   #6 (permalink)
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hmm. i don't think so DudeBoyz, that are not the issue. read my above post for the main areas that actually cause the problem under openSUSE (Goldmaster media that has kernel 2.6.18.2-34 on it) and the said motherboard chipsets and its configuration.
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Old Jan 31, 2007, 06:23 AM   #7 (permalink)
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hmm. i don't think so DudeBoyz, that are not the issue. read my above post for the main areas that actually cause the problem under openSUSE (Goldmaster media that has kernel 2.6.18.2-34 on it) and the said motherboard chipsets and its configuration.
Gee, it seems to be an issue for folks discussing it on Usenet...

Just because you personally have no knowledge of it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Regardless, was just trying to help. He's free to disregard the information if he wishes.
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Old Jan 31, 2007, 06:40 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Gee, it seems to be an issue for folks discussing it on Usenet...

Just because you personally have no knowledge of it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Regardless, was just trying to help. He's free to disregard the information if he wishes.
LOL, there are 2 motherboard chipsets (Intel 945 and Intel 965) on my above post. that was why i asked you what are you talking about?


which Intel chipset are you talking about when you said this "Gee, it seems to be an issue for folks discussing it on Usenet..."?

which case problem that your were refering to when you said this "Mandrake Linux work ok? It might work to help prep the drive, and then you can wipe out the data on the drive (don't nuke the whole partition, just get rid of the data) and try installing Suse where Mandrake (Mandriva - stupid name change, by the way) was and see if that works?"

was that for my openSUSE case problem?

is that about my openSUSE case problem that you said "folks discussing it on Usenet"? if so, show me that Usenet dissusions.

now, when you post this below message...

were you try to help p4paji with his problem?
or, you were trying to help me with my openSUSE problem that i have already found a workaround for it.

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Mandrake Linux work ok? It might work to help prep the drive, and then you can wipe out the data on the drive (don't nuke the whole partition, just get rid of the data) and try installing Suse where Mandrake (Mandriva - stupid name change, by the way) was and see if that works?
Gee.

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Old Jan 31, 2007, 08:09 AM   #9 (permalink)
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hmmm dont think the same

Well guyzzz I dont think the problem is with partition but will still try cause i can access the drive as well during installation.....well in -->view system configuration and then save configuration and i can save the configuration...it seems the problem is something else as we can't figure out....i performed Firmware test and results were failed for many in OpenSuse10.2 Such as EDD Support: Failed and 4 more failed.....If you want i can give the whole firmware results if its of some help....but really is this the compatibility problem or just some linux head banging stuff which linux is really famous for....
hey guys i'm frustrated ...I'll try Mandrick as well
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Old Jan 31, 2007, 08:22 AM   #10 (permalink)
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It is possible that suse is having hardware problems and as a result there is data corruption caused by the formatting, partitioning or write errors, meaning the install will fail.

Some users have found that if they use a different distro to format, partition and setup the swap space, they are then able to install suse if they opt to leave the drives and partitions in place.

So, suggesting a different distro, such as Mandrake, may help. If it is able to properly setup all the drives and partitions, etc. and runs without errors or corruption, it is possible to delete the installation, keep the drives / partitions in tact and perhaps suse will install and run fine.
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Old Jan 31, 2007, 08:23 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Motherboard Specifications

Hey PagingJr this is the link for my motherborad configuration and really speaking i'm unware of these ICH7-8 so guys this is the link and tell me what is the problem i'm facing

http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/945g/index.htm
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Old Jan 31, 2007, 08:25 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Trying Mandrake Distro

Ok guys trying mandrake distro
in hope it'll help
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Old Jan 31, 2007, 08:50 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Now the problem with all the linux i've tried is SATA problem from fedora to RedHat to Ubuntu and many others as well..but Suse was the one i've found which is simple and solves SATA problem...
p4paji,

explain the problem that you said you had with SATA on the other distros but you did not find it when you tried openSUSE?
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Old Jan 31, 2007, 11:18 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Distros Tried

hey man I tried
Rh9 and failed...No boot some no hard disk found error
Fedora4..failed same error
Fedora6...Don't know what happened with it...No display for me after first screen...some stacktrace message as i insert DVD and boot frm it....
OpenSuse 10.0...No hard disk
OpenSuse 10.1...Installed but freezed...but i ended up booting my system somehow but without users setup and no gui ..so i cant login or move into another runlevel(i booted from DVD)


As i still dont think the problem is due to partitons as i have Xp on my system and i created partitons from it as well and failed...
So i'm trying knoppix now to know whats boot parameter for my system....Still was someones's suggestion
But i wanna know this can be done using Ubuntu as well.....
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Old Jan 31, 2007, 11:42 AM   #15 (permalink)
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hey man I tried
Rh9 and failed...No boot some no hard disk found error
Fedora4..failed same error
Fedora6...Don't know what happened with it...No display for me after first screen...some stacktrace message as i insert DVD and boot frm it....
OpenSuse 10.0...No hard disk
OpenSuse 10.1...Installed but freezed...but i ended up booting my system somehow but without users setup and no gui ..so i cant login or move into another runlevel(i booted from DVD)


As i still dont think the problem is due to partitons as i have Xp on my system and i created partitons from it as well and failed...
So i'm trying knoppix now to know whats boot parameter for my system....Still was someones's suggestion
But i wanna know this can be done using Ubuntu as well.....
hmm it might help me to help you better if you can give more detail than shorter ones like that.
i just don't have a magic solution for you right now till i understand or have more clue on what is going on at least.
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