My new CPU doesn't work.

Mikedot

I just got a new CPU from http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?inv...1000FC&cat=CPU
and It just came in the mail today. It uses a 370 Pin Socket Adapter, which I have. I replaced the old Celeron 766mhz proccessor that was on it. I plugged it in and turned it on. But I when I turned it on. No screen came up.

I when't to see if everything was in properly and it was.

I just switched back to to my old Celeron 766mhz to post on the forums right now.

I really don't know what to do now. Did I just spend 50 bucks on something that is going to be useless.?

Volcom929

What motherboard do you have? Might need a BIOS update. Does it not even beep or anything?

Mikedot

I believe I have a "Blaster Board" Motherboard...........................Yeah I don't know what that is. <_> And no., It doesnt make a beep noise or anything.

Tipstaff

Gotta agree with this. See about upgrading the bios.

Also, don't forget to check any necessary jumpers on the board that deal with processor/bus speed. Same thing goes with the bios. With some systems you can hold down the Delete key while powering on. This will default the bios to a lower CPU clock speed, and that will allow you to go into the bios to re-adjust for proper speed. If in doubt, reset the bios using the jumper on the motherboard, and this will load the default bios settings (and might force the bios to automatically re-adjust for the right CPU speeds).

Secondly, double check the processor adapter, and it's jumpers. You may need to move one to support a faster bus speed. Also, some adapters don't support all speeds 66/100/133mhz. Yours might not support the 133mhz bus of the P3.

Lastly, what speed is your SDRam? Don't forget that the older Celersons ran at 66mhz -100mhz (your old Cel bus speed is 66mz if I remember correctly). Doulbe check the speed of your ram. Since the bus speed of the P3 is 133mhz, and you need the same speed ram to support it. Could be that yours doesn't, and that's why it's hanging.

Hope that helps you out, and don't forget to let us know if it works out.

-Tip

technonerd

Don't know if I'm right, Does your motherboard support 133mzh? If is not, it may not work.

Mikedot

Well I wen't into the BIOS, and Went to the Chipset Setting. It seems that I can only get my CPU Host Speed to 83. I can only up my proccessor to x5, and when it is on 5x, I can only up my proccessor's speed to 416mhz.

Also, I looked on to this website: http://www.hardwarecooling.com/produ...roducts_id/440 and It says it supports 133mhz bus speed.

Will I need to buy?

Mikedot

Umm another thing..............what is this whole thing about jumpers and what do they do?

Tipstaff

First part: the only bios changes you can make are to the current CPU, which is also the reason you can't get the speed up higher. Those jumpers on the slocket adapter is telling the bios what speed your CPU is (that is if the slocket isn't set to an auto mode). So, until you insert your new CPU, and change the jumpers on the slocket adapter you can't do much.

If you take a look at the page you linked:

"Jumpers for Bus speed, processor type and single or dual CPU operation"

I can't tell by the picture (looks like there are 5 jumpers), but most slocket adapters use the jumpers to assign cpu voltage, front side bus speed, cpu type (Intel/Cyrix), and Single/Dual CPU operation (for boards that support dual processors). Unfortunatly each manuafacture has their own jumper settings (Take a look at the jumper settings on the Soltek one HERE). Sometimes the jumper settings will be printed on a piece of paper, on the back of the slocket adapter, or on the back of the packaging. If you can't find it check with the supplier of the board to see if they can send you the instructions for it.

One thing I should mention is that there should be an AUTO setting too, however some bios' don't work properly with the slocket set to this.

Also, can you tell me what the jumpers are currently set to? Each jumper has 3 pins. You should see a listing on the board near each pin (or at least near one set of pins) such as 1 then the actuals pins (like this (pin)(pin)(pin)) then the number 3. If you can post what pins each jumper is set to that might help me work out the settings.

Lastly, I would also check the bios for Auto settings in regards to the CPU. As well, try inserting the new CPU into the slocket, and while you boot the PC hold down the DELETE key. As I mentioned before this will (on some motherboards) force the bios to reset to a default, or compatible CPU/FSB/Multiplyer speed.

-Tip

Mikedot

Thanks guys. I fiqured about everything on the jumpers and all and was able to set my PC to work with 133mhz Bus Speed.

My proccessor is working now.

Mikedot

Umm. I have a new problem. It seems that on random times. My Computer Freezes completely and I have to reset my computer again and again and again. What is going on?

Tipstaff

Glad to see you got one problem sorted out. As for this new one:

Double check the speeds inside the bios. You may have the voltage too higher for the CPU (which is determined by one of the jumpers on the slocket adapter).

Also, as I said before, your ram may not support the CPU bus speed. Double check them (physically.. not through the bios) to see what speed they are. I have a feeling they are PC100 (or lower). If they are then you'll need to buy new ram.


So close you can taste it, hmm?

-Tip

Mikedot

Well they are PC133, And my PC can only handle PC100 and PC133 SDRam.

Also the jumpers on my CPU Adapter's Bus Speed is set to Auto? Does this mean I should manually switch to 133mhz?

Tipstaff

As I mentioned before some slocket adapters don't like the Auto setting, but it was an option to try. If you can set it for 133mhz I would suggest trying it.

-Tip

Mikedot

Yes, I tried that. The computer still freezes thou, but only in Internet Exploper.....strange. <_>

Yousaif

If its only when you use IE, you may want to try running some spyware removal programs on your rig. More oftan than not I find the PC errors and freezes when opening or using IE are due to ad or spyware.

-Yousaif-

Mikedot

It seems that my computer doesn't crash when I run at 100mhz bus speed. Is their anyway I can run 1000mhz at 100mhz bus speed?

Tipstaff

Sort of. You can choose a mulitplyer of 10 x 100mhz bus speed, however your motherboard (bios) may not support that high a multiplyer.

Speaking of which, you mentioned the board is the "Blaster Board" right? That wouldn't happen to be a 'Shuttle' system, would it?

BTW: If you still have the manual I would check to see if it really does support a 1Ghz processor @ 133mhz bus speed.

-Tip

Mikedot

Damn. It seems that my computer's mobo can run at 133mhz bus speed, but only if the CPU is meant to run at a 100mhz bus speed. And my manual for my PC says that newer Pentium III's can not be overclocked at all. So raising my CPU Multipler (That only goes from 2x to 5x) wont do anything.

Damn.

Tipstaff

Is there any possibility that you can buy, or test out a different slocket adapter? Maybe buy one from a local shop that will accept a return, or borrow one from a friend? See, the 3 things that come to mind are that the slocket is not fully compatible with the 133mhz speed, that the motherboard doesn't like the slocket running at that speed, or that it doesn't 'truely' support that processor speed.

Anyways, there isn't much else I can suggest other than to look for a possible bios update for that board, or contacting Shuttle (that board was used in their XPC systems.. it was called the Blaster Board cuz it had an onboard Creative Sound Blaster audio chip) about compatibility for that processor and with that board.

Sorry man. Wish I could help out further.

-Tip