Wireless Connection problems

TJ-

yet another friggen problem thread......

got a d-link router hooked to my d-link dsl modem all hooked through computer. Got a wireless card yesterday, install drivers and the card. Everything worked fine, connection was fast but it kept disconnecting itself. Was running fine today, until it disconnected and it wont let me reconnect. Ive uninstalled and reinstalled a few times.

The wireless network syas the signal strength is excellent and the light on the wireless card are green meaning its installed sucessfully. I tried setting up new netwok connection with no luck. Tried doin what i did when i first set it up , i hit connect and it just hangs.

What am i doing wrong...??

Tipstaff

When you setup the router did you change the broadcast channel to something other than it's default? It's possible that there are other people in your area that are using that same channel with their wireless devices (such as other wireless routers), and you could be conflicting with them. Most people never change it (or realize that they should).

Also, are you using security (such as WEP keys) on the wireless? If so, you might want to change that by turning it off. If turning off security fixes the issue, but you want security, I would instead use something like MAC address control. Just as good as WEP protection.

- Tip

TJ-

i have no idea bout any of that stuff.

when i instaled teh router, i entered in a 26 diget security code (for 128 bin encryption) i didnt change any of the default settings. I went to my laptop network connection, hit connect and it worked automatically.




Now whn i connect it asks for a network key whick is already typed in there (dont know where it came from ) i hit connect, it loads for a minue then just stops. I tried setting up sharing internet connection on this computer but it says it cannot share the connection because the default is already in use by my laptop.



how do i change the channel or disable the security feature?

MiDKnYtE

you should do a full reset of the wap just to make sure it isn't WEP or some other setting. you can always reenable security once you know you have a solid connection.

disable the wireless zero config service and use the dlink software to connect.

you can also try this:
http://www.overclockers.com/tips1190/

Tipstaff

Changing either option requires accessing the router setup again. Best thing to do would be to wire to it (ethernet cable), change the settings, and then switch back to the wireless.

Question, when you say the network key is already typed in, you mean that it's typed into the wireless cards setup as well as the routers security page, right? The other thing with WEP protection is that not only do you have a security key, but it also has a security channel. It's sort of like having 4 locks on 1 door, but only one lock REALLY opens it. This is determined by the router on the same page you inputed the WEP key.

- Tip

Edit: Nice link there MiDKnYtE. Gonna have to give that a try on my laptops.

TJ-

yea, its the default i guess, i created a new connection with a manual network key but that didnt work. So i deleted the new connection.

you may as well speak in russian, i know nothing about wireless or the security settings. Im gunna go pick up a ethernet cable to hook from the router to my lappy tommorow, fom there how do i change the settings.?

MiDKnYtE i installed that ap and added it to startup like it says, now my network connections wont let me access. Telling me to run the program that manages the wireless connection, I run that and it comes back with this program is now stopping after a few seconds

dj_stick

in the manual for the router, it should give you an IP address to configure your router
it will open a website style control panel, allowing you to change all the settings
its best if you do this from a hard-wired connection

BWX

http://192.168.0.1

have someone walk you through the emulator step by step
http://support.dlink.com/Emulators/di624_revC/


but find the correct product emulator first.
http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=6





http://support.dlink.com/Emulators/d...eless_11g.html

http://support.dlink.com/Emulators/d...evC/h_wan.html



change password
http://support.dlink.com/Emulators/d...ols_admin.html

TJ-

ahhhh a good refreshment chinese dinner......

ok got home refreshed and with a straight mind...

thanks for the links bwx,

ran the router wizard, and disabled the security, and changed a few other things around, and what do ya know, i hear some sort of circus music and the laptop gets connected

But now i got security disabled, still running firewall though...

i see the setting for that on the config, but how do i make it so it makes my comp secure?

Tipstaff

Your routers firewall will be up and running regardless of the wireless security, so you will be protected in that regards. WEP and what not is really just to protect your network from outside wireless machines connecting to it. Again, the old lock and key routine. Now that you know how to bypass everything to gain access to the router again it's just a matter of trial and error with the other security options, but at least now you won't be pooched if something doesn't work. (plus now you know your wireless devices aren't screwed either) Also, your at a point of getting up and running which is the priority. Once that is done everything from that point on is adding to what you have. WEP will help make your network more secure, and should be used, but now you can do it at your own pace (trial and error).

At any rate, now that your PC is connected wirelessly you should look for what's called a "Client List". This is normally under or associated with DHCP options (depends on the router). Simple terms, DHCP essentially means that your PC is making a request from the router (in this case) for an IP address on the local network. The router will assign your network card one, and tell it how to connect to the outside network. In the Client List you will see your PC listed there, as well as the assigned IP address (local address, not the internet one), and the MAC address of the card. Every card has a hard coded physical address, and this is the one you want. Add that address listed for your PC into the MAC filtering section of the router, and activate the filtering.

This should get you going until you can get WEP working properly. Depending on the router MAC filtering will either allow only listed PCs to access the net, or filter out who will be allowed to access the network and internet (such as mine). In either case you should be careful about what folders you share on your network until you can get WEP working... just as an added security buffer for now.

- Tip

craig5320

I messed up my wireless network the other day, disabled to many services, it connected, but couldn't re-connect when the signal went low, It'd stay on after a restart for 5,10 minutes upto an hour at one point but once disconnected it was buggered. Turned the services back on and up it came :-)

TJ-

im gunna play around with it for a few days, got sygate firewall pro running on both computers, is that really nesessary. Im really paranoid about security though.

BWX

That is the problem- I had sygate running on my parents PC's when I hooked up wireless there... even disabling Sygate didn't work because it takes over the connection- I had to completely uninstall it.

Then it all worked perfect. The hardware firewall is better than any software firewall anyway, and if you are paranoid about outgoing connections, just us something like currports.



http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/cports.html

TJ-

thats a nifty little program, but the problem with it is you gotta monitor it, it doesnt automatically block unknown applications. Ive disabled the firewall for now, gunna give it a try though. Looks alright.

Tipstaff

The routers firewall is far better than any software firewall, so the Sygate firewall isn't really needed. However, having said that, you should check your routers setup just to make sure that the firewall options are turned on. Some routers, like the SMC series have their firewall options turned off by default, so it'd be wise to double check the D-Links setup just incase.

- Tip

TJ-

checked the settings again,dont really know what i did in the settings, i enabled as many things as i could without the wireless comp disconnectin.

Gunna keep the windows firewall just for safe keeping since its basially invisable.

MiDKnYtE

You should really look into enabling WEP or WPA. You can enhance that with MAC address filtering. Even if they don't get your data, you don't want people stealing your bandwidth. Here's a good article:
http://thetechzone.com/?m=show&id=66

TJ-

thats an awesome article man, lacks diagrams though, and my dlink is a bit different

but ive got wep enabled and my laptop connected, shich i couldnt do before, gotta work on gettin the firewall goin though, i still can have it enabled with my laptop connected ... dunno why