problems booting my system this morning

Dark Lord · Jan 24, 2005, 12:13 PM

normaly my comp hates cold boots everyday, but today it was alot worse. normaly it turns on just fine, goes to the windows loading screen, does its thing there and then hangs. after i hit reset it does its thing and starts with out problems.

today it decided to be diffrent. it wouldnt post and neither of the cd/dvd roms would turn on. i ended up turning it off and then on 3 times, then on the 3rd try the lights on my keyboard started blinking on and off. bout 10 seconds later it finaly posted and started up just fine.

the only thing ive done to my case latly was spray compressed air in there trying to clean it out, and that was several days ago.

system specs
A64 3200+, no OC'ing
2x512 kingston hyperX
MSI k8T Neo Fis2r
480watt Thermaltake PurePower
160gig western digital.
current temps. 32C cpu, 27C case.

pr0digal jenius · Jan 24, 2005, 12:28 PM

if it hangs and you have to cold boot it everytime, I reccomend defragging and cleaning out your registry, then cleanign your prefetch list and perhaps eliminating as many startup actiosn as possible. If it still has issues, i would re-install windows.

CDsDontBurn · Jan 24, 2005, 12:41 PM

run a CPU stress test like TOAST, and a memory stress test like memTest. Might be your memory or CPU that is faulty.

Dark Lord · Jan 24, 2005, 01:09 PM

how long is this TOAST supposed to be ran? is there some kind of diagnostics read out for this thats reporting any problems?

CDsDontBurn · Jan 24, 2005, 01:26 PM

no, you just kinda let it run and do it's own thing. if your CPU isn't stable, then your system will reboot.

Dark Lord · Jan 24, 2005, 01:36 PM

well, i ran it for 10 min while reading a couple of other sites and listening to music and everything was fine

*just ran it for another 15min with no problems. ill check out memtest some time later.

hopefully what ever happend this morning was just a fluke and will never happen again.

Drakon · Jan 24, 2005, 05:24 PM

perhaps u should let the test run a lil longer, that way the cpu or memory gets a good "workout." i would say run it for a few hrs if possible.

pr0digal jenius · Jan 24, 2005, 06:30 PM

yea, leave it run overnight.

Dark Lord · Jan 24, 2005, 07:58 PM

ive had it going for the last 2 hours and so far its running fine. i found out just how good my HS is too, i peaked at 48C and i average 46C.

*i just ran it for a little over 7 hours with no problems.

e v o · Jan 25, 2005, 07:44 AM

another-user, check your readings for ur powersupply, mgiht be a problem there

CDsDontBurn · Jan 25, 2005, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by evolve1

another-user, check your readings for ur powersupply, mgiht be a problem there

yea, that might be it too. How many devices (HDDs, optical drives) do you have installed in your system? What about video card? Does the video card require additional power?

Dark Lord · Jan 25, 2005, 02:36 PM

as for devices and what not... i have 1 dvd-rom, 1 CD-burner, 1 160gig HD, 8 case fans (from what i can tell this PSU was made for this case) 1 Heatsink, and the x800pro that requires additional power.

*this morning everything started up just fine. im hopeing yesterday was just a some odd ball mess up that will never happen again.

CDsDontBurn · Jan 26, 2005, 01:20 AM

how many watts does your PSU put out? How many amps does your PSU put out on the 12v rail?

Dark Lord · Jan 26, 2005, 01:35 AM

heres the specs on my PSU

Type: ATX
Maximum Power: 480W
PFC: No
Power Good Signal: 100-500ms
Hold-up Time: >16ms at Full Load
Efficiency: >65%
Over Voltage Protection: +5V trip point<+6.8V;+3.3V trip point<+4.5V;+12V trip point<+15.6V
Input Voltage: 100-240 Vrms
Input Frequency Range: 47Hz-63Hz
Input Current: 8A
Output: +3.3V@30A;+5V@40A;-5V@0.3A;+12V@18A;-12V@0.8A;+5VSB@2A

CDsDontBurn · Jan 26, 2005, 01:47 AM

your PSU readouts seem to be normal. Maybe your PSU is going out and that's how it's telling you it's going out. Have you tried a different PSU (like a friend's or something) in your system?

Dark Lord · Jan 26, 2005, 02:19 AM

no i havnt tried another one. if it does go out though ill just send it back, ive got like a 1yr warrenty on it and ive only had it since june or july.

Jan 24, 2005, 12:13 PM	#1
Dark Lord DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,584 Rep Power: 66 System Specs	problems booting my system this morning normaly my comp hates cold boots everyday, but today it was alot worse. normaly it turns on just fine, goes to the windows loading screen, does its thing there and then hangs. after i hit reset it does its thing and starts with out problems. today it decided to be diffrent. it wouldnt post and neither of the cd/dvd roms would turn on. i ended up turning it off and then on 3 times, then on the 3rd try the lights on my keyboard started blinking on and off. bout 10 seconds later it finaly posted and started up just fine. the only thing ive done to my case latly was spray compressed air in there trying to clean it out, and that was several days ago. system specs A64 3200+, no OC'ing 2x512 kingston hyperX MSI k8T Neo Fis2r 480watt Thermaltake PurePower 160gig western digital. current temps. 32C cpu, 27C case.

Jan 24, 2005, 12:41 PM	#3
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 21,849 Rep Power: 133 System Specs	run a CPU stress test like TOAST, and a memory stress test like memTest. Might be your memory or CPU that is faulty. __________________ CD's Corner // Her first day // A year later // RX-8 Club 3Dmark06 - 4176 // 3Dmark05 - 7459 // 3Dmark03 - 14289 // PCmark05 - 4453 // PCmark04 - 6297

Jan 24, 2005, 01:26 PM	#5
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 21,849 Rep Power: 133 System Specs	no, you just kinda let it run and do it's own thing. if your CPU isn't stable, then your system will reboot. __________________ CD's Corner // Her first day // A year later // RX-8 Club 3Dmark06 - 4176 // 3Dmark05 - 7459 // 3Dmark03 - 14289 // PCmark05 - 4453 // PCmark04 - 6297

Jan 24, 2005, 01:36 PM	#6
Dark Lord DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,584 Rep Power: 66 System Specs	well, i ran it for 10 min while reading a couple of other sites and listening to music and everything was fine just ran it for another 15min with no problems. ill check out memtest some time later. hopefully what ever happend this morning was just a fluke and will never happen again. Last edited by another-user; Jan 24, 2005 at 02:09 PM.*

Jan 24, 2005, 07:58 PM	#9
Dark Lord DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,584 Rep Power: 66 System Specs	ive had it going for the last 2 hours and so far its running fine. i found out just how good my HS is too, i peaked at 48C and i average 46C. i just ran it for a little over 7 hours with no problems. Last edited by another-user; Jan 25, 2005 at 01:08 AM.*

Jan 24, 2005, 12:28 PM	#2
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,672 Rep Power: 0	if it hangs and you have to cold boot it everytime, I reccomend defragging and cleaning out your registry, then cleanign your prefetch list and perhaps eliminating as many startup actiosn as possible. If it still has issues, i would re-install windows.

Jan 24, 2005, 01:09 PM	#4
Dark Lord DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,584 Rep Power: 66 System Specs	how long is this TOAST supposed to be ran? is there some kind of diagnostics read out for this thats reporting any problems?

Jan 24, 2005, 05:24 PM	#7
Drakon DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Floatin'... Posts: 4,958 Rep Power: 43	perhaps u should let the test run a lil longer, that way the cpu or memory gets a good "workout." i would say run it for a few hrs if possible.

Jan 24, 2005, 06:30 PM	#8
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,672 Rep Power: 0	yea, leave it run overnight.

Jan 25, 2005, 07:44 AM	#10
e v o ........ Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,038 Rep Power: 33 System Specs	another-user, check your readings for ur powersupply, mgiht be a problem there

Jan 25, 2005, 02:36 PM	#12
Dark Lord DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,584 Rep Power: 66 System Specs	as for devices and what not... i have 1 dvd-rom, 1 CD-burner, 1 160gig HD, 8 case fans (from what i can tell this PSU was made for this case) 1 Heatsink, and the x800pro that requires additional power. *this morning everything started up just fine. im hopeing yesterday was just a some odd ball mess up that will never happen again.

Jan 26, 2005, 01:20 AM	#13
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 21,849 Rep Power: 133 System Specs	how many watts does your PSU put out? How many amps does your PSU put out on the 12v rail? __________________ CD's Corner // Her first day // A year later // RX-8 Club 3Dmark06 - 4176 // 3Dmark05 - 7459 // 3Dmark03 - 14289 // PCmark05 - 4453 // PCmark04 - 6297

Jan 26, 2005, 01:35 AM	#14
Dark Lord DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,584 Rep Power: 66 System Specs	heres the specs on my PSU Type: ATX Maximum Power: 480W PFC: No Power Good Signal: 100-500ms Hold-up Time: >16ms at Full Load Efficiency: >65% Over Voltage Protection: +5V trip point<+6.8V;+3.3V trip point<+4.5V;+12V trip point<+15.6V Input Voltage: 100-240 Vrms Input Frequency Range: 47Hz-63Hz Input Current: 8A Output: +3.3V@30A;+5V@40A;-5V@0.3A;+12V@18A;-12V@0.8A;+5VSB@2A

Jan 26, 2005, 01:47 AM	#15
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 21,849 Rep Power: 133 System Specs	your PSU readouts seem to be normal. Maybe your PSU is going out and that's how it's telling you it's going out. Have you tried a different PSU (like a friend's or something) in your system? __________________ CD's Corner // Her first day // A year later // RX-8 Club 3Dmark06 - 4176 // 3Dmark05 - 7459 // 3Dmark03 - 14289 // PCmark05 - 4453 // PCmark04 - 6297

Jan 26, 2005, 02:19 AM	#16
Dark Lord DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,584 Rep Power: 66 System Specs	no i havnt tried another one. if it does go out though ill just send it back, ive got like a 1yr warrenty on it and ive only had it since june or july.