Building a new AMD system, these good parts?

topbob · Oct 8, 2004, 12:20 AM

I'm building a new system for my friend, and I got a couple questions bout the mobo and cpu to get. Currently I planing on,
ASUS "A7V600-X" KT600 Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU
and
AMD Athlon XP 3200+ "Barton", 400MHz FSB, 512K Cache Processor
Is that a good mobo & cpu combo to eventually OC once my friend needs more power? and is that in general a good mobo?
thanks

WisMerHill · Oct 8, 2004, 07:17 AM

mm it's ok but i would prefer a NForce2 chipset with an AthlonXP.I think it's probably a better overclocker as well.
Never really had much good experiences with via AthlonXp chipsets.
The DFI NFII Ultra Infinity , Epox EP-8RDA6+ Pro and the Abit NF7 rev2 are all great AthlonXP mobos. I'd probably choose the Epox because of the newer chipset that supports new technologies like SATA and Gigabit ethernet. The DFI and Abit are just NForce2 boards the overclock very well.

topbob · Oct 8, 2004, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by WisMerHill

mm it's ok but i would prefer a NForce2 chipset with an AthlonXP.I think it's probably a better overclocker as well.
Never really had much good experiences with via AthlonXp chipsets.
The DFI NFII Ultra Infinity , Epox EP-8RDA6+ Pro and the Abit NF7 rev2 are all great AthlonXP mobos. I'd probably choose the Epox because of the newer chipset that supports new technologies like SATA and Gigabit ethernet. The DFI and Abit are just NForce2 boards the overclock very well.

is the fact that its an nVIDIA chipset going to effect any preformance with an ATI video card? because he already had a radeon 9800 pro.
plus both those mobos use dual channel memory, i was told the athlon xp doesnt take advatage of this so its potentually useless in this case.

markus82 · Oct 8, 2004, 12:47 PM

It`s no problem to have an ati card on a nforce mobo. but why don`t you get an athlon 64? The A64 2800+ is cheaper than an XP 3200+ but in most things faster.

topbob · Oct 8, 2004, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by markus82

It`s no problem to have an ati card on a nforce mobo. but why don`t you get an athlon 64? The A64 2800+ is cheaper than an XP 3200+ but in most things faster.

wouldn't getting a athlon 64 be more expensive? and would the A64 2800+ be faster then the xp 3200 in things like new age 3d games?

~~REGENERAT1ON~~ · Oct 8, 2004, 01:00 PM

if you want AGP bugs,instability,hangs,low memory bandwidth then go for the KT600
but if you care from stability and performance go for the nForce2 based mobos

markus82 · Oct 8, 2004, 01:05 PM

In games the A64 2800+ is about 10% faster than the xp3200+ and i think it would be also a few $ cheaper.

kelticknight · Oct 8, 2004, 01:07 PM

on my second abit mobo with nvidia nforce chipset and always had atoi g-cards and no problems what so ever,first mobo was nf7-s with ati 9800 pro and ati 9800xt and now have abit an7 with ati 9800xt and same cpu amd athlon xp3200+ barton.just make sure you have good memory

Shinjikun · Oct 8, 2004, 01:23 PM

If you're going the 32-bit route I would definetely get an nForce2 motherboard (Asus A7N8X-E or DFI NFII Ultra Infinity). As for the CPU you can easilly get a 2500+ Barton and OC to 3200+ by setting the FSB to 200 MHz, unless you want to break 3200+ (by a lot) that is.

Vampyromaniac · Oct 8, 2004, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by topbob

wouldn't getting a athlon 64 be more expensive? and would the A64 2800+ be faster then the xp 3200 in things like new age 3d games?

well you know of Newegg, so look at these:
AMD Athlon 64 2800+, 512KB L2 Cache, 64-bit Processor - Retail
CHAINTECH "VNF3-250" nForce3 250 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket 754 CPU -RETAIL
that's $215, versus $256 for the xp3200/kt600 setup

Overall, I'd say the 64-2800 would be more or less as fast as the xp3200.
It would be a bit faster in some things, like games, and a bit slower in other things.
Not enough of a difference that I think you'd really notice, except maybe in some rare cases.
But, the price for the a64 2800+ setup I showed is noticeablely lower than your xp3200 picks.

I only found a couple of examples of what you asked about: a64-2800 and xp3200 in "new age" games (the a64-2800 is the "Athlon64 1800MHz S754" in the first one):

eggs420 · Oct 8, 2004, 03:12 PM

Vampy beat me to it. This combo can't be beat for the price, still.

topbob · Oct 8, 2004, 03:18 PM

thanks a lot guys, this helps a lot

Oct 8, 2004, 12:20 AM	#1
topbob DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: SFBA, CA, USA Posts: 456 Rep Power: 32 System Specs	Building a new AMD system, these good parts? I'm building a new system for my friend, and I got a couple questions bout the mobo and cpu to get. Currently I planing on, ASUS "A7V600-X" KT600 Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU and AMD Athlon XP 3200+ "Barton", 400MHz FSB, 512K Cache Processor Is that a good mobo & cpu combo to eventually OC once my friend needs more power? and is that in general a good mobo? thanks __________________ 12090 in 3DMarks06 on current system, 5001 on old system, 4164 on older, 1587 on oldest

Oct 8, 2004, 07:17 AM	#2
WisMerHill DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 469 Rep Power: 0	mm it's ok but i would prefer a NForce2 chipset with an AthlonXP.I think it's probably a better overclocker as well. Never really had much good experiences with via AthlonXp chipsets. The DFI NFII Ultra Infinity , Epox EP-8RDA6+ Pro and the Abit NF7 rev2 are all great AthlonXP mobos. I'd probably choose the Epox because of the newer chipset that supports new technologies like SATA and Gigabit ethernet. The DFI and Abit are just NForce2 boards the overclock very well. __________________ [color=sandybrown][color=white] [/color] [color=white][color=white]M[/color][color=white]y Computer[/color]: [/color][color=white]3DMark2001[/color][color=white] - [/color][color=white]3Dmark2003[/color][color=white] - [/color][color=white]3DMark200[/color][color=white]5[/color][color=white] - [/color][color=white]PCMark2004[/color][/color]

Oct 8, 2004, 12:47 PM	#4
markus82 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany/Bavaria Posts: 60 Rep Power: 0	It`s no problem to have an ati card on a nforce mobo. but why don`t you get an athlon 64? The A64 2800+ is cheaper than an XP 3200+ but in most things faster. __________________ [color=green]AMD Athlon64 3500+ "Newcastle"[/color] [color=green]Sparkle Geforce 6800 GT with Arctic NV Silencer 5 [/color] [color=green]OCZ EL Gold DDR 500 1024Mb kit Dual Channel[/color] [color=green]MSI K8N Neo2 54G Platinum Edition[/color] [color=green][/color]

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markus82 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany/Bavaria Posts: 60 Rep Power: 0	In games the A64 2800+ is about 10% faster than the xp3200+ and i think it would be also a few $ cheaper. __________________ [color=green]AMD Athlon64 3500+ "Newcastle"[/color] [color=green]Sparkle Geforce 6800 GT with Arctic NV Silencer 5 [/color] [color=green]OCZ EL Gold DDR 500 1024Mb kit Dual Channel[/color] [color=green]MSI K8N Neo2 54G Platinum Edition[/color] [color=green][/color]

Oct 8, 2004, 01:23 PM	#9
Shinjikun 第3 子供 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Nerv HQ Posts: 1,322 Rep Power: 0	If you're going the 32-bit route I would definetely get an nForce2 motherboard (Asus A7N8X-E or DFI NFII Ultra Infinity). As for the CPU you can easilly get a 2500+ Barton and OC to 3200+ by setting the FSB to 200 MHz, unless you want to break 3200+ (by a lot) that is. __________________ Xfire: [Shinji1225 \ Status] A7N8X-E Deluxe Athlon XP 2500+ (@ 2.2 GHz 11x200 MHz FSB) Corsair TwinX XMS 1GB PC3200 Dual Channel (2-2-3-5) [color=red]ATi [/color][color=white]Radeon 9500 Pro (@ 330\310) \ [/color][color=white]Omega Catalyst Drivers v2.5.90[/color] [color=white]Ultra X-Connect 500W PSU[/color]

Oct 8, 2004, 01:00 PM	#6
~~REGENERAT1ON~~ NGO Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 412 Rep Power: 0	if you want AGP bugs,instability,hangs,low memory bandwidth then go for the KT600 but if you care from stability and performance go for the nForce2 based mobos

Oct 8, 2004, 01:07 PM	#8
kelticknight DriverHeaven Knight Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: EIRE{great for black stuff ,bulmers cider and Munster rubgy Posts: 1,098 Rep Power: 0	on my second abit mobo with nvidia nforce chipset and always had atoi g-cards and no problems what so ever,first mobo was nf7-s with ati 9800 pro and ati 9800xt and now have abit an7 with ati 9800xt and same cpu amd athlon xp3200+ barton.just make sure you have good memory

Oct 8, 2004, 03:12 PM	#11
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Oct 8, 2004, 03:18 PM	#12
topbob DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: SFBA, CA, USA Posts: 456 Rep Power: 32 System Specs	thanks a lot guys, this helps a lot __________________ 12090 in 3DMarks06 on current system, 5001 on old system, 4164 on older, 1587 on oldest