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Old Jul 2, 2004, 01:56 AM   #1
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Poor quality MP3

I've downloaded a Metallica show from livemetallica.com in MP3 format (128 k) for 9,99$.

There wasn't a option to listen to a sample from the show, showing how bad quality it really was, so I'm a bit disappointed with my purchase.

My question is: Is there a tool or a program that can improve the quality of MP3??
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Old Jul 2, 2004, 02:25 AM   #2
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You can not up-sample to improve quality. Just wont work.

You could use something like "Sound Forge XP" to remove some types of spectral quality issues.

http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.co...ct.asp?PID=668

Sony owns the product now but if you have a Sound Blaster Live MP3+ card setting around the CD has the older 4.0 or 4.5 version on it.
Runs fine with WinXP and does not require the Sound Blaster Live card to be used. A lot cheaper than the $400.00 for version 7.0.

You can do spectral changes to the sound content which might make it sound better. Removing background noise etc...

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Old Jul 2, 2004, 02:28 AM   #3
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You can not up-sample to improve quality. Just wont work.

You could use something like "Sound Forge XP" to remove some types of spectral quality issues.

http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.co...ct.asp?PID=668

Sony owns the product now but if you have a Sound Blaster Live MP3+ card setting around the CD has the older 4.0 or 4.5 version on it.
Runs fine with WinXP and does not require the Sound Blaster Live card to be used. A lot cheaper than the $400.00 for version 7.0.

You can do spectral changes to the sound content which might make it sound better. Removing background noise etc...

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Thanks alot Greg, I'll try the trial version when I get home.
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Old Jul 2, 2004, 03:21 AM   #4
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Hi

I tried the program out a little here on work (yeah I know I'm a bad employee) but man it's difficult for my small brain.

Isn't there a program that has some kind of wizard or maybe some simpler program??
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Old Jul 2, 2004, 03:42 AM   #5
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even if you do make it better it will still sound bloddy awful at 128kps. they shouldnt even sell it. my telephone ringtone is better then 128kps (joke) but seriously 128kps is AWFUL to say the least with mp3.
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Old Jul 2, 2004, 03:53 AM   #6
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even if you do make it better it will still sound bloddy awful at 128kps. they shouldnt even sell it. my telephone ringtone is better then 128kps (joke) but seriously 128kps is AWFUL to say the least with mp3.
Yeah, I agree with you, think it's the first and last time I download from livemetallica.
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Old Jul 2, 2004, 06:05 AM   #7
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for decent quality audio - nothing really beats the CD itself, or a full size .wav file (44,100hz/16bit)… but those files are huge (~10Mb per minute)
try at least 360KB/S… it also depends on what the file was encoded with - the lame 2.92(?) is the best MP3 encoder around

EDIT: btw you may want to ignore me i use WMA9 @ 64KB/S
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Old Jul 2, 2004, 06:39 AM   #8
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for decent quality audio - nothing really beats the CD itself, or a full size .wav file (44,100hz/16bit)… but those files are huge (~10Mb per minute)
try at least 360KB/S… it also depends on what the file was encoded with - the lame 2.92(?) is the best MP3 encoder around

EDIT: btw you may want to ignore me i use WMA9 @ 64KB/S
Well there was not much I could have done, they had the songs in MP3 128 k, and it sounds awful.

Is'nt there something I can do??

BTW, I have lots of 128 k MP3 thats sound OK, but this one......

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Old Jul 2, 2004, 06:50 AM   #9
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as i said… its the encoder format they used i guess… lowest quality settings at 128 most likely… email me the track (i'll pm you my email) and i will see what i can do
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as i said… its the encoder format they used i guess… lowest quality settings at 128 most likely… email me the track (i'll pm you my email) and i will see what i can do
Very nice of you as always, I'll send it to you tonight.

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Old Jul 2, 2004, 08:08 AM   #11
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they wouldn't be MP3Pro encoded by any chance?

MP3pros play back through the normal mp3 codec but sound crap as a result as a lot (approx 1/2 I think) of the sound out.

Do they sound like the treble is all muffled or mixed up and the overall track sounds flat by any chance.

BTW - if this is the case, good luck finding the pro codec - very expensive.
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they wouldn't be MP3Pro encoded by any chance?

MP3pros play back through the normal mp3 codec but sound crap as a result as a lot (approx 1/2 I think) of the sound out.

Do they sound like the treble is all muffled or mixed up and the overall track sounds flat by any chance.

BTW - if this is the case, good luck finding the pro codec - very expensive.
I really don't have a clue Logla, I dowloaded it from livemetallica.com and payed for it, at least they could have some sample of some kind to listen to it before paying for the show to then find out that the songs were of crappy quality.
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Old Jul 3, 2004, 04:02 AM   #14
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totally agree with you.

It Stinks.
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Old Jul 3, 2004, 06:49 AM   #15
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Yes it does. They have another format for dowload called "flac" never heard of such a format before, but they say that it's better than MP3.
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yes, flac is true CD-quality sound, compressed with no loss of any bits. but the filesizes are huge.
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The next time I'll choose Flac.
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free lossless audio codec
http://flac.sourceforge.net/
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free lossless audio codec
http://flac.sourceforge.net/
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