Whats your internet connection?

Warpy · Oct 31, 2003, 07:58 PM

Thought we'd just see how much juice you guys have in your modems

Cable Modem Broadband

A connection through an ordinary coax cable through your digital cable provider is the easiest and most common way to connect to the Internet at high speeds. Most connections average about 400K/second download and 128K upload. Cable's largest advantage is its availability and ability to produce multiple upstreams (when sending). The biggest downside to a cable connection is the slow- downs you'll experience during gluts of service when several people are sharing the network. Expect to pay around $40 per month for this service, I use this service and it's very nice!.

Digital Subscriber Link (DSL)

This is a connection using your phone line and a special modem. You have to be within so many feet of a phone station "hub" and your line has to be of a newer type to qualify. Good portions of the population (especially in urban areas) match these criteria and can get a DSL connection. The modem uses a sound frequency well above the human ear's limits and will not interfere with normal telephone operation. Most connections average about 400-650K per second in download (some are faster) while anywhere from 128-256K in upload speed is available as well. The biggest downside to this type of connection is the availability. The biggest boon to this technology is its reliability and that network slow-downs are less common than with a cable connection.

Satellite (HST)

This is the most expensive alternative for getting a high-speed connection to the Internet. If you live in a rural area or a spot where other options are not available then this is probably your only hope for a high-speed connection. These come in two varieties, 1-way and 2-way. One-way satellites are like television receivers: they only accept signals. You'll still have to use your modem to connect for uploads. A 2-way connection, however, both sends and receives and is telephone-free.

Average speeds for this type of connection are 600K and higher for download and 128K for the upload. Averages tend to be higher because there are far fewer users on the network to slow things down. The biggest up side to this technology is that it is available just about everywhere. The biggest downside to this type of connection is two-fold: price and reliability. Expect to spend $600 or more for the equipment and another $50 or more a month for the connection. You'll also experience down time (which will not be reimbursed by the ISP) during severe weather (called "rainouts"). Most satellite providers provide a dialup backup service as a part of their plan.

Dial Up

This is a simple type of connection. You just require a normal phone line and a modem (about £30). It's also the cheapest. It uses your existing phone line to make the connection, and therefore you cannot make normal telephone calls whilst connected to the internet. It's a slow connection speed, taking about 15 minutes to download a 5MByte file.

ISDN - Integrated Services Digital Network

This requires extra technology to split your phone line into two channels, and hence incurs an installation cost and setup fee. It's slightly faster than Dial up when one channel is used, and about 3x as fast as typical dial up speeds when both channels are used. If you use both channels, you cannot use the telephone at the same time, although you can if you only use one channel. The connection speeds are guaranteed, but many ISPs don't support the 128Kbit / sec speed.

If you have need of it, a high-speed connection is both convenient and timesaving. If you spend a lot of time online, you should probably look into getting a faster connection to boost your productivity while online. Otherwise, you'll be drinking lots of coffee whilst those Omega drivers download.

Davidgt · Oct 31, 2003, 08:25 PM

ftp://anon:anon@david4.servebeer.com/bandwidth.JPG
ftp://anon:anon@david4.servebeer.com/bandwidth1.JPG

my bandwidth bellsouth dsl 1500/300 connection

BWX · Oct 31, 2003, 08:34 PM

Cable Modem. (Motorola SB5100 surfboard)

3000 down/ 256 up

but sometimes I get as fast as this:

Now that is fast

Depending on how I have my settings I can download at this speed. My upstream was just upgraded to a 256mbit/s up- which is nice, it used to only be around 70 to 133- (very slow)

~~DriveEuro~~ · Oct 31, 2003, 08:41 PM

ComCrap cable. 1.5mbps download, 256kbps upload. It's consistent and the pings are always good no matter what time of the day. I aint complaining.

TonyMonTana · Oct 31, 2003, 08:48 PM

I have telewest's (uk) 2meg, its great for download and even better for gaming (pings of 12 on dutch server)
Cost 50pound which is alot but worth it when i see how much i save not having to buy music, games or films, and it means i save on taking the old dear to the cinema, now she can watch them at home while i go to the pub, now thats priceless!

Tony.

@/2ct!< · Oct 31, 2003, 09:11 PM

Qworst DSL, im pretty ok with it, good DL times, but pings not nearly as good as other providers, 7@#&& interleave.

Warpy · Oct 31, 2003, 09:16 PM

Quote:

TonyMonTana Wrote:

I have telewest's (uk) 2meg, its great for download and even better for gaming (pings of 12 on dutch server)
Cost 50pound which is alot but worth it when i see how much i save not having to buy music, games or films, and it means i save on taking the old dear to the cinema, now she can watch them at home while i go to the pub, now thats priceless!

Tony.

I hope you aren't suggesting that you engage in illegal internet downloading. This is the last place where you should be mouthing off. Please dont promote it here.

***Veridian3*** · Oct 31, 2003, 09:43 PM

I'm sure Tony means independant media which is freely available on the net and not copyrighted. Otherwise we at DH would frown apon this downloading.

Stu

Warpy · Oct 31, 2003, 09:47 PM

I'm sure he doesn't.

Quote:

i save not having to buy music, games or films, and it means i save on taking the old dear to the cinema, now she can watch them at home while i go to the pub, now thats priceless!

He is using the net as an alternative to buying the games, movies and music. Anways it doesnt matter - if it's accecptible - then so be it.

FluffyChicken · Nov 1, 2003, 04:50 AM

Cable 600/128

yesterday I had 1M/256 but had to drop down due to ££.

Anyway over in the UK Cable is currently better than the ADSL, the contention ratio is lower I think 20:1 compared to 50:1, so your slowdown comments are the wrong way around. Also the availablity is the other way around, ADSL is more widely available in the UK than Cable.

Warpy · Nov 1, 2003, 05:40 AM

Quote:

fluffychicken wrote:

Also the availablity is the other way around, ADSL is more widely available in the UK than Cable.

Dont live in the UK bud. Some of us live in other countries. So your comments dont apply when speakin about availabaility, try and open your mind past England / Wales. Broadband is available in all other parts of the world, what made you think i was talking about only England? Is it because you come from there or something?

Judas · Nov 1, 2003, 05:46 AM

I'm using uncapped cable.... meaning i have all the bandwidth both ways.... AND i'm not sharring it at all.... On any given day, i can download at anywere from 6-12mb/s

BWX · Nov 1, 2003, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Judas
I'm using uncapped cable.... meaning i have all the bandwidth both ways.... AND i'm not sharring it at all.... On any given day, i can download at anywere from 6-12mb/s

Did you uncap it or is it just uncapped? You could set up your own little ISP!

Sharkims · Nov 1, 2003, 06:50 PM

I have 4mb/378k not uncapped and not paying for the faster than standard comcast speed either. :P

Dyre Straits · Nov 1, 2003, 06:57 PM

I have Comcast Cable with 3Mb down and 256K up. The 3Mb down is currently an experiment for the area.

TonyMonTana · Nov 1, 2003, 07:10 PM

Funky monkey, how do you work out broadband is EVERYWHERE in the world?
In all the third world countrys is it?

TonyMonTana · Nov 1, 2003, 07:19 PM

And when i say downloading games and films and music thats what i mean.
why do you think these company's offer the speeds they do? you think its for mass downloading freeware or sharware?They know why people use it and should accept it.lets see what chance those US companys have in making the same pathetic moves in the Uk as they did there.This country is far more postive in copy law than US, im not saying its legal but they do see the good side of it (i.e free advertising, low production cost)
I think for now K-lite user's in uk/Ireland are safe from the US giants.

Tony.

**Roadee** · Nov 1, 2003, 07:42 PM

I am using Two-Way Sat. by Direcway....speeds are listed as 512-128........but download speeds will vary from 400k up to 12mb down........up is pretty much limited below 128k to keep people from running ftp servers and things like that.

One downside that wasn't mentioned about this type of connection.......under the contract your bandwidth is limited by what they call FAP or the fair access policy. In other words.....160mb worth of usage every 4 hour period. SUCKS SHIT big time. But it is a hell of a lot better than dial up and I am stuck out in the middle of no where........maybe one day they will run ADSL out here.

Another thing not mentioned is the PING rates........they average from 700-1600 on ping rates......and that is why I am not a member of the DH Lan Team.........

Hardware.......$535
Service Fee.....$60 a month

Warpy · Nov 1, 2003, 09:36 PM

Quote:

TonyMonTana Wrote:

Funky monkey, how do you work out broadband is EVERYWHERE in the world?
In all the third world countrys is it?

I never said it was everywhere in the world bud! Where did you get that one from? And by the way "countrys" is spelt countries

**Roadee** · Nov 1, 2003, 09:49 PM

ah.....nothing like a good pissing contest

Careful or they will close or move the thread to the FW....

Mazuko · Nov 1, 2003, 11:21 PM

I am on a T1 at GVSU, since I did not see the option I am mentioning it here haha.

FuNsTeR · Nov 2, 2003, 04:52 AM

BT Openworlds RADSL 512kb /256kb ... no chance of 1mb line unless BT upgrade my local exchange 1/2 a mile away

spark rain fire · Nov 2, 2003, 05:04 AM

my cable is sweet! i usually get like 200-350k download. and 10k upload. (i think they put a "cap" on the sending, for what reason other than to save money.. i dont know) sending files over my connection is such a pain.

**MIG-31** · Nov 2, 2003, 05:41 AM

currently use dsl.512k bb supplied by btopenworld.happy with the speed of it but would love bwx32's rate but would cost quite a bit.

but would never drop down to anything lower.

Judas · Nov 2, 2003, 06:38 AM

....i think my connection is similare to the speeds that t3 lines put out..... seeing as some benchmarks i have ran..... show it as equivilent....... the other day, i uploaded a 3mb file in less then a second... you have any idea how sweet that is after being on no faster then 28.8kb dial up?.....it's like...... "SHUWEET" as you drool..... and become dehydrated from it......... BTW, i just happened to setup 4 computers on the internet...and we all played UT on a UK (Jolt) server.... all of us at once were getting 90-130ms pings.... removing anyone or everyone would not change it..... man... and only $40 a month....

FluffyChicken · Nov 2, 2003, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spunky Monkey
Dont live in the UK bud. Some of us live in other countries. So your comments dont apply when speakin about availabaility, try and open your mind past England / Wales. Broadband is available in all other parts of the world, what made you think i was talking about only England? Is it because you come from there or something?

Hey, NO. I was just trying to say that it's different in the UK, Anyway over in the UK at the start of the paragraph, so you can open YOUR eyes to different places in trhe World.
But it was mainly so other members could learn it maybe different (and any UK readers, which there are, also knew).
I knew you post was not UK based !

So the availablity does stand as I was talking about the UK.

Geez it's just a poll and I was giving some information to the UK members.

Warpy · Nov 2, 2003, 09:14 AM

Ok bud... no problem....

Must have read it wrong.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Nov 2, 2003, 09:16 AM

cable here ... hey everyone post some links or screenies of you speeds

Mazuko · Nov 2, 2003, 09:52 AM

Have a benching app that we should all use as the default for measuring?

The_Neon_Cowboy · Nov 2, 2003, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mazuko
Have a benching app that we should all use as the default for measuring?

BTW: cable is nomally faster than dsl but varriery acording to usage and distance from isp
dsl has decicated bandwith, varrys little, speed and avalablity limited by distance from isp

Oct 31, 2003, 07:58 PM	#1
Warpy DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 2,772 Rep Power: 0	Whats your internet connection? Thought we'd just see how much juice you guys have in your modems Cable Modem Broadband A connection through an ordinary coax cable through your digital cable provider is the easiest and most common way to connect to the Internet at high speeds. Most connections average about 400K/second download and 128K upload. Cable's largest advantage is its availability and ability to produce multiple upstreams (when sending). The biggest downside to a cable connection is the slow- downs you'll experience during gluts of service when several people are sharing the network. Expect to pay around $40 per month for this service, I use this service and it's very nice!. Digital Subscriber Link (DSL) This is a connection using your phone line and a special modem. You have to be within so many feet of a phone station "hub" and your line has to be of a newer type to qualify. Good portions of the population (especially in urban areas) match these criteria and can get a DSL connection. The modem uses a sound frequency well above the human ear's limits and will not interfere with normal telephone operation. Most connections average about 400-650K per second in download (some are faster) while anywhere from 128-256K in upload speed is available as well. The biggest downside to this type of connection is the availability. The biggest boon to this technology is its reliability and that network slow-downs are less common than with a cable connection. Satellite (HST) This is the most expensive alternative for getting a high-speed connection to the Internet. If you live in a rural area or a spot where other options are not available then this is probably your only hope for a high-speed connection. These come in two varieties, 1-way and 2-way. One-way satellites are like television receivers: they only accept signals. You'll still have to use your modem to connect for uploads. A 2-way connection, however, both sends and receives and is telephone-free. Average speeds for this type of connection are 600K and higher for download and 128K for the upload. Averages tend to be higher because there are far fewer users on the network to slow things down. The biggest up side to this technology is that it is available just about everywhere. The biggest downside to this type of connection is two-fold: price and reliability. Expect to spend $600 or more for the equipment and another $50 or more a month for the connection. You'll also experience down time (which will not be reimbursed by the ISP) during severe weather (called "rainouts"). Most satellite providers provide a dialup backup service as a part of their plan. Dial Up This is a simple type of connection. You just require a normal phone line and a modem (about £30). It's also the cheapest. It uses your existing phone line to make the connection, and therefore you cannot make normal telephone calls whilst connected to the internet. It's a slow connection speed, taking about 15 minutes to download a 5MByte file. ISDN - Integrated Services Digital Network This requires extra technology to split your phone line into two channels, and hence incurs an installation cost and setup fee. It's slightly faster than Dial up when one channel is used, and about 3x as fast as typical dial up speeds when both channels are used. If you use both channels, you cannot use the telephone at the same time, although you can if you only use one channel. The connection speeds are guaranteed, but many ISPs don't support the 128Kbit / sec speed. If you have need of it, a high-speed connection is both convenient and timesaving. If you spend a lot of time online, you should probably look into getting a faster connection to boost your productivity while online. Otherwise, you'll be drinking lots of coffee whilst those Omega drivers download. __________________ The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help." Last edited by Warpy; Oct 31, 2003 at 08:08 PM.

Oct 31, 2003, 08:25 PM	#2
Davidgt Car Audio Guy Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 499 Rep Power: 0	ftp://anon:anon@david4.servebeer.com/bandwidth.JPG ftp://anon:anon@david4.servebeer.com/bandwidth1.JPG my bandwidth bellsouth dsl 1500/300 connection __________________ Sales/Support Manager Taraautosound.com wonderful sig by tastyweat

Oct 31, 2003, 08:34 PM	#3
BWX Spinal Tapped Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,559 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	Cable Modem. (Motorola SB5100 surfboard) 3000 down/ 256 up but sometimes I get as fast as this: Now that is fast Depending on how I have my settings I can download at this speed. My upstream was just upgraded to a 256mbit/s up- which is nice, it used to only be around 70 to 133- (very slow) __________________ One Big Ass Mistake America

Oct 31, 2003, 09:11 PM	#6
@/2ct!< DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Not Vegas, anymore :( Posts: 1,379 Rep Power: 0	Qworst DSL, im pretty ok with it, good DL times, but pings not nearly as good as other providers, 7@#&& interleave. __________________ A64 @ 2.45 Ghz, x800xt, l90d+, 1 Gig DDR 400 @222

Nov 1, 2003, 04:50 AM	#10
FluffyChicken DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: England Posts: 320 Rep Power: 0	Cable 600/128 yesterday I had 1M/256 but had to drop down due to ££. Anyway over in the UK Cable is currently better than the ADSL, the contention ratio is lower I think 20:1 compared to 50:1, so your slowdown comments are the wrong way around. Also the availablity is the other way around, ADSL is more widely available in the UK than Cable. __________________ [COLOR=#455b64]Team mauisun.org [/COLOR]

Oct 31, 2003, 08:41 PM	#4
~~DriveEuro~~ Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	ComCrap cable. 1.5mbps download, 256kbps upload. It's consistent and the pings are always good no matter what time of the day. I aint complaining.

Oct 31, 2003, 08:48 PM	#5
TonyMonTana I wish i was a tree....... Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: uk..Birmingham Posts: 199 Rep Power: 0	I have telewest's (uk) 2meg, its great for download and even better for gaming (pings of 12 on dutch server) Cost 50pound which is alot but worth it when i see how much i save not having to buy music, games or films, and it means i save on taking the old dear to the cinema, now she can watch them at home while i go to the pub, now thats priceless! Tony.

Oct 31, 2003, 09:43 PM	#8
*Veridian3* Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cloaked Posts: 2,997 Rep Power: 72	I'm sure Tony means independant media which is freely available on the net and not copyrighted. Otherwise we at DH would frown apon this downloading. Stu

Nov 1, 2003, 06:50 PM	#14
Sharkims Seen my brain? Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: WA,USA Posts: 760 Rep Power: 0	I have 4mb/378k not uncapped and not paying for the faster than standard comcast speed either. :P __________________ System-1: MSI K8N Neo Platinum \|\| A64 3200+(200x11) - Zalman 7000A-AlCu \|\| 1x1gb OCZ PC3200@400(3-3-3-7) \|\| 9800XT \|\| WD Raptors 2x36 RAID0 System-2: MSI 875P Neo-FIS2R \|\| P4 2.4c(FSB:200) - Intel Cooler \|\| 2x256 GEIL PC3200@400(2-3-3-6) \|\| AIW9000 \|\| WD SE 120x2 RAID0 System-3: DELL Inspiron 9100 \|\| P4 3.0c(mobile) \|\| 2x256mb PC3200(3-3-3-8) \|\| Mobility Radeon 9700 - 128mb \|\| WSXGA+ 15.4" \|\| 60gb 5400RPM 8mb

Nov 1, 2003, 07:10 PM	#16
TonyMonTana I wish i was a tree....... Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: uk..Birmingham Posts: 199 Rep Power: 0	Funky monkey, how do you work out broadband is EVERYWHERE in the world? In all the third world countrys is it?

Nov 1, 2003, 07:19 PM	#17
TonyMonTana I wish i was a tree....... Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: uk..Birmingham Posts: 199 Rep Power: 0	And when i say downloading games and films and music thats what i mean. why do you think these company's offer the speeds they do? you think its for mass downloading freeware or sharware?They know why people use it and should accept it.lets see what chance those US companys have in making the same pathetic moves in the Uk as they did there.This country is far more postive in copy law than US, im not saying its legal but they do see the good side of it (i.e free advertising, low production cost) I think for now K-lite user's in uk/Ireland are safe from the US giants. Tony.

Nov 1, 2003, 07:42 PM	#18
Roadee Never forgotten Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rest In peace, Joe. Posts: 2,202 Rep Power: 53	I am using Two-Way Sat. by Direcway....speeds are listed as 512-128........but download speeds will vary from 400k up to 12mb down........up is pretty much limited below 128k to keep people from running ftp servers and things like that. One downside that wasn't mentioned about this type of connection.......under the contract your bandwidth is limited by what they call FAP or the fair access policy. In other words.....160mb worth of usage every 4 hour period. SUCKS SHIT big time. But it is a hell of a lot better than dial up and I am stuck out in the middle of no where........maybe one day they will run ADSL out here. Another thing not mentioned is the PING rates........they average from 700-1600 on ping rates......and that is why I am not a member of the DH Lan Team......... Hardware.......$535 Service Fee.....$60 a month __________________ We are born naked, wet, and hungry. Then things get worse.

Nov 1, 2003, 09:49 PM	#20
Roadee Never forgotten Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rest In peace, Joe. Posts: 2,202 Rep Power: 53	ah.....nothing like a good pissing contest Careful or they will close or move the thread to the FW.... __________________ We are born naked, wet, and hungry. Then things get worse.

Nov 1, 2003, 11:21 PM	#21
Mazuko DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 1,009 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I am on a T1 at GVSU, since I did not see the option I am mentioning it here haha. __________________ E-bay feedback: http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...me=STRK:ME:UFS

Nov 2, 2003, 04:52 AM	#22
FuNsTeR Caledonian & Proud Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Darkest Ayrshire Posts: 1,077 Rep Power: 53 System Specs	BT Openworlds RADSL 512kb /256kb ... no chance of 1mb line unless BT upgrade my local exchange 1/2 a mile away __________________ "They say when you play a Microsoft CD backwards you can hear satanic messages ..... but that's nothing, if you play it forward it will install Windows"

Nov 2, 2003, 05:04 AM	#23
spark rain fire i am rad. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: central pa Posts: 236 Rep Power: 0	my cable is sweet! i usually get like 200-350k download. and 10k upload. (i think they put a "cap" on the sending, for what reason other than to save money.. i dont know) sending files over my connection is such a pain. __________________ ---- [color=red]http://www.invalidsystemdisk.vze.com[/color]

Nov 2, 2003, 05:41 AM	#24
MIG-31 DH News MOD Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nottingham,UK Posts: 42,244 Rep Power: 180 System Specs	currently use dsl.512k bb supplied by btopenworld.happy with the speed of it but would love bwx32's rate but would cost quite a bit. but would never drop down to anything lower. __________________ Please Post Your News Submissions Here How you can help DriverHeaven by using Digg!

Nov 2, 2003, 09:14 AM	#27
Warpy DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 2,772 Rep Power: 0	Ok bud... no problem.... Must have read it wrong. __________________ The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Nov 2, 2003, 09:16 AM	#28
The_Neon_Cowboy DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,135 Rep Power: 76 System Specs	cable here ... hey everyone post some links or screenies of you speeds __________________

Nov 2, 2003, 09:52 AM	#29
Mazuko DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 1,009 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Have a benching app that we should all use as the default for measuring? __________________ E-bay feedback: http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...me=STRK:ME:UFS