upgrade due soon.

**MIG-31** · Sep 19, 2003, 08:50 AM

guys need some help.

i am considering an upgrade to a new mobo.

it must take a p4 2.5ghz 400 fsb.

ram i have now 1024mb 266ddr modules board must support this speed due to upgrading mobo only.but would prefer a mobo that will take higher aswell.

currently have 9600pro 8x on a 4x mobo so would prefer 8x.for future.

need at least 2 usb slots

not requiring on-board graphics but if supplied don't matter can be used as backup if ati becomes faulty at some time.

who is the best mobo going.

here is my choice.

msi

intell intel d865 gbfl my prefered choice at this time.

soltek

asus

epox

all help will be gratefully considered.

all above links are from overclockers site

**MIG-31** · Sep 19, 2003, 12:11 PM

also to add if change mobo obviously the chipset will change.will that involve a reinstall of windows to follow?

Vampyromaniac · Sep 19, 2003, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnybravo
also to add if change mobo obviously the chipset will change.will that involve a reinstall of windows to follow?

to that question, I would definitely say Yes.

***Veridian3*** · Sep 19, 2003, 05:53 PM

ABIT!!!!

IS7-E:
Supports Intel® Pentium® 4 Socket 478 processors with 800/533/400MHz FSB
- Intel® 865PE "Springdale" / ICH5 chipsets
- 4 DIMM Single/Dual Channel DDR 400 memory slots
- AGP PRO 8X/4X
- 6-Channel AC 97 CODEC on board
- On board 10/100 LAN
- 1 x AGP PRO, 5 x PCI slots
- 2 x Ultra DMA 33/66/100 Connectors
- 2 x SATA Connectors
- 2 x USB 2.0 headers

Abit make the best boards...

Stu

**MIG-31** · Sep 20, 2003, 01:30 AM

Abit IS7-E 'Springdale' (Socket 478) Motherboard (MB-034-AB)
The IS7 is the next generation of high-performance motherboards for Intel CPUs. The IS7 series uses Intel's newest 865PE chipset to bring the latest in technology to the Intel platform. The IS7 series supports Intel® Pentium 4 800/533/400 MHz CPUs with Hyper-Threading technology for superior performance, and offers full support for Dual Channel DDR. ABIT provides users with 6-channel sound and S/PDIF In/Out for enhanced audio performance. With full support for AGP 8X, USB 2.0, and optional IEEE the IS7 series allows users to connect to today's hottest peripherals.

- Supports Intel® Pentium® 4 Socket 478 processors with 800/533/400MHz FSB
- Intel® 865PE "Springdale" / ICH5 chipsets
- 4 DIMM Single/Dual Channel DDR 400 memory slots
- AGP PRO 8X/4X
- 6-Channel AC 97 CODEC on board
- Professional digital audio interface supports 24-bit S/P DIF optical In/Out
- On board 10/100 LAN
- SoftMenu™ Technology to set CPU parameters

- 1 x AGP PRO, 5 x PCI slots
- 2 x Ultra DMA 33/66/100 Connectors
- 2 x SATA Connectors
- 2 x USB 2.0 headers

for £75 from overclockers.might also upgrade memory aswell.

posibly the one i will choose.

KRN-Drak · Sep 20, 2003, 01:37 AM

ASUS P4C Deluxe pwnz for me!

**MIG-31** · Sep 20, 2003, 01:40 AM

any particular brand memory for the abit board pc3200/400ddr?

overclockers

does the abit is7-7 require duel channel or normal modules.can only afforded the mobo with 512mb for a while?

Necrosis · Sep 20, 2003, 02:00 AM

Corsair, OCZ, or Kingston is good ram. I think for your "pound" to go the farthest OCZ would be your best bet.. However, I've some good experiences with Kingston lately; Corsair is good too but it's a little over priced.

**MIG-31** · Sep 20, 2003, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Necrosis
Corsair, OCZ, or Kingston is good ram. I think for your "pound" to go the farthest OCZ would be your best bet.. However, I've some good experiences with Kingston lately; Corsair is good too but it's a little over priced.

cheers i think you could be right the oz does look a little better.at £119 for 512mb pc3200 probably order at the same time as mobo then upgrade to a little more when i have the cash.

also considering the p4 they have on the site 2.4 800mhz for £148.in time.
that will have to be considered due to having a 2.5 400mhz p4 already.

i will loose 100mhz off CPU but increase by double fsb. would you agree with that.

Necrosis · Sep 20, 2003, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnybravo
cheers i think you could be right the oz does look a little better.at £119 for 512mb pc3200 probably order at the same time as mobo then upgrade to a little more when i have the cash.

also considering the p4 they have on the site 2.4 800mhz for £148.in time.
that will have to be considered due to having a 2.5 400mhz p4 already.

i will loose 100mhz off CPU but increase by double fsb. would you agree with that.

Just to clearify something...are you going dual or single for the ram?

peroni · Sep 20, 2003, 02:30 AM

I had some Corsair XMS3500C2PT on a IS7 and it worked beautifully.
The board works both in single or dual mode but for better performances go for a 2x256MB stick.

Then again I'd wait until you get a new processor, DDR266 will be just fine with your current one.

Kgentatszu] · Sep 20, 2003, 02:47 AM

peroni is right, last thursday i just ordered an Asus P4P800, and it arrive the next day, the board itself is simply magnificient, the fastest of its kind i think (the Asus version), especially with the new AI support. i did managed to get some more OC out of it without changing any voltages, and i got it quite cheap too, around USD 120......by the way, it is not recommended to use DDR400 on your current CPU, cause the mobo wont support it, you'll just end up with lower performance of that sort! oh~ and one more thing, Dual-channel ROCKs!

note: dont go for the "VM" ones.......
the deluxe version is also great, with a lot more feature but it comes with a price......

by the way, i really recommend you in Buying ASUS if ya wanted to get this mobo.......there's this General manager of Intel Chipset divison and Vice president of intel recommending this board too.....ya cant go wrong with that...

**MIG-31** · Sep 20, 2003, 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Necrosis
Just to clearify something...are you going dual or single for the ram?

most likely single due to cash.

**MIG-31** · Sep 20, 2003, 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by peroni
I had some Corsair XMS3500C2PT on a IS7 and it worked beautifully.
The board works both in single or dual mode but for better performances go for a 2x256MB stick.

Then again I'd wait until you get a new processor, DDR266 will be just fine with your current one.

i am seriously considering the 800mhz cpu,may order today.

why choose 2x256 instead of 1x512?

Necrosis · Sep 20, 2003, 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnybravo
i am seriously considering the 800mhz cpu,may order today.

why choose 2x256 instead of 1x512?

You need dual sticks to run in dual channel mode. Hence, really make that 800MHz FSB worth the money.

**MIG-31** · Sep 20, 2003, 03:29 AM

as above mobo.

with

£119 upgrade to another stick in the next few months.

OCZ 512MB PC3500 Performance Series EL-DDR CAS2 (ME-003-OC)
OCZ Enhanced Latency PC-3500 memory using state of the art ULN technology is capable of achieving outrageous speeds of up to 433MHz at CL2*. Out copper heat spreaders maximize cooling and extend your rams life while increasing performance. This memory easily surpasses even the newly adopted PC-3200 standard. OCZ Enhanced Latency PC-3500 is amongst the best performing DDR memory on the market.
* Based on single module load at 2.5 volts +/- 5% DIMM Voltage. Some newer chipsets/motherboards may allow other timings (Some KT400 based boards allow up to CL2 484 1T timings at 434Mhz some 845e boards allow up to CL2 372 434Mhz.).Due to chipset and motherboard diferences on a non JEDEC standard product Make sure to check our motherboard qualification page for the exact information for your motherboard. OCZ EL DDR modules are rated to handle up to 2.8 volts with heatspreader installed.

with

£148

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Intel Pentium 4 'Northwood' 2.4CGHz (800FSB) with HT Technology - Retail (CP-024-IN)
The new Intel® Pentium® 4 processor at 2.4GHz with an advanced 800 MHz system bus offers higher levels of performance, creativity and productivity. Based on Intel® NetBurst™ microarchitecture and built with Intel's 0.13-micron technology, the Pentium 4 processor delivers significant performance gains for use in home computing, business solutions and all your processing needs. The Pentium 4 processor at 2.4GHz with an advanced 800 MHz system bus also supports Hyper-Threading Technology, enabling you to multitask more efficiently when you run demanding applications at the same time.

Note - Only suitable for running at 800MHz FSB in motherboards that are natively capable of 800MHz FSB and verified as supporting this CPU such as Canterwood and Springdale based motherboards. This full retail Intel product is supplied with Intel Heatsink and Fan and has a 3 year warranty.

mobo £75. total of £342. £350 inc delivery.

**MIG-31** · Sep 20, 2003, 03:52 AM

getting exited delivery will be either monday or tuesday

***Veridian3*** · Sep 20, 2003, 04:33 AM

so you ordered it all? Coool

Get your existing P4 and ram on ebay now!

p.s. those 800mhz 2.4's overclock like mad

Stu

**MIG-31** · Sep 20, 2003, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Veridian3
so you ordered it all? Coool

Get your existing P4 and ram on ebay now!

p.s. those 800mhz 2.4's overclock like mad

Stu

thanx a bunch stu. advice is taken with much gratitude as i quote i have confirmation of dispatch monday or tuesday.

hopefully monday.

also i have had this system for a year never been happy with its performance.problem is being a cheap mobo that is installed as seen in-store.

you know the type 2 pci on-board graphics with agp crap.i don't think that over the time you can't beat separates as what i have choose.more options in mobo bios etc.

should now have greater flexibility in CPU being 800mhz fsb.understand my point.

kinetic · Sep 20, 2003, 08:06 AM

I told ya you'd get a reply soon!

**MIG-31** · Sep 20, 2003, 08:17 AM

i know it just seamed like it were taking forever.can't blame me for trying do you kinetic

sometimes you have to be a little upfront.if it weren't for these moderators who can be a pain in the a**e.(no only kidding m8)

just needed to make a choice yesterday to receive goods by monday with a bit of luck.

Kgentatszu] · Sep 20, 2003, 10:21 AM

remember to bench first thing in the morning.........by the way, my Asus ROCKS! believe it or not, i gained more than 2000+onions in 3d2k1 just by OCing 80Mhz higher without changing any voltage settings.....