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Sep 8, 2003, 06:23 PM
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DriverHeaven Lover
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Major problem with Winamp 3
Ok I did a fresh instal on a reformated drive of WinXP Pro for my bro's PC that had a virus.
I reisntalled winXP and installed some programs I have and updated drivers, and other Windows software like DirectX, WM9, etc.
The PC was perfect, it booted faster, shut down faster, programs ran faster, games ran faster and movies and DVDs looked sweet.
The my bro wanted to install WinAmp 3 because some friend of his told him that it was a good program.
I did not want to install it telling him that it just does all the features that Windows Media Player does and it would be redundant to have specially since he is no PC guy, he just uses the PC to listen to music and watch movies and PC games.
Finally I said ok, we went to Winamp's site and downloaded the latest (at the time this was (WA3.0) installed it, and let him use it and that was it...
However that was what started problems, now Windows Media Player 9 did not want to work right, NvDVD (since he has a Nvidia card) did not want to open to play DVDs and the sound started to crackle at start up, not to mention some ads popped up and the computer felt slower than before.
He tried using the computer like that and got sick of it so he asked me to remove it.
I did, but it did not end there, WM9 had to be restarted and applied to open with wm files, NvDVD still refused to work so I uninstalled it and reinstalled it then it worked.
But the PC still felt slow and I restarted the PC when I took Win Amp out!!!
Now if you download a movie it will say that there is no winamp or it will try to look for winamp, then you have to right click and set it to open with WMP9.
I explored the PC's windows program files and found a winamp folder and deleted it, but the problem is still there.
Can anyone help me by telling me how to nuke the crap out of that crappy ass software out of my brother's computer.
Please help me I am sick of this and I think its better to reinstall but now there are alot of songs and movies in the PC.
I use my own PC and I do not use WinAmp at all did I do something wrong?
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Sep 8, 2003, 06:24 PM
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Banned
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: In clothing
Posts: 3,510
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don't use winamp anymore, it has been supersceeded by foobar. Once AOL bought it it turned to crap.
Try running spybot.
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Sep 8, 2003, 07:22 PM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Ohio
Posts: 8,480
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Hmmm...sounds like the file associations need to be switched back over to their proper programs.
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Sep 8, 2003, 10:33 PM
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Banned
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Olympia, WA
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you are saying your brother knows nothing about computers and you do?
if you werent so condescending to him it would be forgivable. but you are so here goes
It wasnt Winamp3 that caused your issues. Winamp3 will not cause your sound card to start misbehaving on startup as windows isnt even loaded yet. That crackle is XP starting up the sound card not anything else. The slowdowns are most likely due to your mishandling, or perhaps his, of the system.
The Pop-Up Ads are not due to Winamp but most likely a piece of spyware.
If you want associations set properly for WMP then simply do this
Open Windows Media Player
Click on Tools Menu and Select Options.
Click on the File Types tab and select everything except for DVD and it will reset the associations.
Now for the DVD issue you could have just right clicked on the DVD Drive and clicked on properties.
In the screen that appears click on the AutoPlay tab. Click on Prompt me each time to select an action if that is what you wish, or you can click on choose this program and select the program you wish to have open.
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Sep 9, 2003, 12:55 AM
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DH's Dormant Dragon
Join Date: May 2002
Location: IN Rem-Dormancy
Posts: 23,665
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.... Winamp 3 isn't recommended for most users.. (they i think have scrapped the whole deal of updating it and are currently workingo n WINAMP5).... I use windows 2 and winamp 3.... When i do a fresh install of windows, i install winamp 2, disable some of the features that are completely absurd.. (AOL is in there)..... When it comes to the point of registering, i hit STOP BUGGING ME and hit ok..... Load it up.. go into the preferences... and set it so it will no AUTOPLAY anything (all files are set to none) System tray and Winamp Agent are disable.... Basically a useless 5mb install... Reason i do it is alot of plugins are made for that winamp..... NOW i install winamp 3 the same way..... I installed Classic Plugin player as well (so that i can use it to play Winamp 2 Plugins..).... I disable all start-up/ability to play certain files by default... (i use winamp for only Audio).... and set the system language to HAPPY MODE cause i think it looks funny when people use it and are like "Wha?"...... ANYWAYS, winamp 3 is basically for customizing, you got know it..... I use it to DJ for dances ..(Milkdrop RULES... as i use it as my 3D renderings for People Signatures...
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Sep 10, 2003, 03:35 PM
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DriverHeaven Lover
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 147
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Quote:
Originally posted by Crash Override
you are saying your brother knows nothing about computers and you do?
if you werent so condescending to him it would be forgivable. but you are so here goes
It wasnt Winamp3 that caused your issues. Winamp3 will not cause your sound card to start misbehaving on startup as windows isnt even loaded yet. That crackle is XP starting up the sound card not anything else. The slowdowns are most likely due to your mishandling, or perhaps his, of the system.
The Pop-Up Ads are not due to Winamp but most likely a piece of spyware.
If you want associations set properly for WMP then simply do this
Open Windows Media Player
Click on Tools Menu and Select Options.
Click on the File Types tab and select everything except for DVD and it will reset the associations.
Now for the DVD issue you could have just right clicked on the DVD Drive and clicked on properties.
In the screen that appears click on the AutoPlay tab. Click on Prompt me each time to select an action if that is what you wish, or you can click on choose this program and select the program you wish to have open.
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Guess what Genius I did all of that before I even made this Topic, I even reviewed all the WM9 settings over and over again while Winamp3 was installed.
My brother is still in high school and only uses his Compaq PC to download movies, music, burn cds, chatting, websurfing, 3d PC games and various console Emulator programs including an N64 emulator I installed in his PC, and he rarely does his homework due to all the distractions comming mainly from chatting too much.
Further, you want to insult my intelligence or knowledge of PCs with out even asking me what I know really makes you look like a troll trying to judge and insult someone you don't even know.
To put it nicely if you did not have good comment then do not say anything.
You want to know what else I did when I reconfigured his PC?
I updated his mobo's bios to the latest Compaq has.
I gathered all of the latest drivers, DirectX version and everything needed for tweaking the PC to maximum efficiency.
Before the install of Winamp3 there was NO sound crackle and slowdowns. Why do you think I noticed that?
BTW my sister also has a Compaq PC similar to my brother's and I recomfigured her's when her PC got a worm and her system does NOT HAVE WINAMP3 and is NOT RUNNING LIKE BULLCRAP.
I also run a home network with a firewall that I set up and configured MYSELF, also I configured the PCs to share files between each other because I myself have 4 other PCs I own aside from my main rig and that does not include my brother's PC and my sister's PC.
And my rigs are all intel systems ranging from 2 PIII 1Ghz with ATI FireGL 8800 workstation graphics card and the one below, the other is old P166Mhz preMMX cpu with Win98se and the other one is a HP I got that has a Celeron running Win NT and Linux.
Winamp3 installed some AOL icons, my brother may have clicked them by accident resulting in more spyware.
If you want a program you do not want to have added crap like AOL, therefore WA3 should NOT include AOL crap that I know is useless, just like I believe that Winamp is a redundant and useless program that is eclipsed by Windows Media player 9 and quick/real player alternative using Windows Media Classic.
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Sep 10, 2003, 04:26 PM
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DriverHeaven Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: St. Louis, MO.
Posts: 402
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Is it hot in here??? 
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Sep 10, 2003, 05:25 PM
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Caledonian & Proud
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Darkest Ayrshire
Posts: 1,001
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Wow chill out lads ... no need to be agressive ... personally i wouldn't put winamp/real player or Sonique on my pc ... sonique used to be my mp3 player of choice until Lychos took them over and started messing up the program ... installing to many similar programs will eventually lead to conflicts and slowing down your pc ... if its that bad get him to back up his files on cd and reformat his hard drive
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Sep 11, 2003, 12:52 AM
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DH's Dormant Dragon
Join Date: May 2002
Location: IN Rem-Dormancy
Posts: 23,665
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.....what i don't understand..... is that winamp 3 shouldn't have done anything of the sort.... however, when someone mentions compaq... that's completely different.....As i've delt with plenty of compaqs... i find thems are the worse for some SERIOUSLY odd software/hardware incapbilities..... such as installing winamp 3 could have done that..... The thing is, i find Windows Media player to be a bulky peice of useless crap..... it loads up stuff i have no reason to even look at.... and there NO WAY to customize it to all your liking.... Winamp 3.... well... add MMD3 Skin, Milkdrop 1.04 and you've got the hottest private MP3/CD/WAV/OGG/(etc) player...... or for me, the sweetest DJing equipment in the world.... sorry, i'm of no help in this area... If you could give us some Specs/Model name and number/ Sound Card type (intergrated? ) you name it.... we could maybe cross reference on the problem....see if it is a known bug possibly.... (winamp 3 may as well be BETA as i know of a few dozen solid bugs)
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Sep 11, 2003, 01:22 AM
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DriverHeaven Lover
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 147
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The problem Judas is that I mentioned that I already confirmed an audible difference before and after installing Winamp3, reguardless of the PC being a Compaq.
I also agree that PCs like Compaqs and HPs etc are not very good choices but the fact is I confirmed the sound quality by multiple restarts during other driver and program installations.
I also tested the DVD software by playind 3 different DVD movies just to see how they looked, loaded and sounded.
Everything changed after installing Winamp3 and after removing it I should no longer see the name Winamp3 if a new movie is downloaded after resetting WM9's settings and restarting.
To me that shows that that particular version installed things in the PC that it should not have and it affected registry settings.
Further I was talking to my brother today and we agreed to reformat and reinstall windows again, I will not help him again if he installs another redundant program though.
I do disagree with Winamp being better though, the whole point of listening to music is to listen to it, not watch a pretty applet that associates itself automatically with every program defeating your own choice of freedom.
I mean I installed NvDVD since he has a Nvidia GeForce 3TI 200 64MB card, Nv DVD uses the graphic card's own decoder to leave the CPU free of resource loads, Winamp3 took over and caused a major resource load resulting in a major slowdown.
However if it was a non WinXP OS like Win98 I guess Winamp is a good choice, however to me its as redudant as Netscape, AOL and Winamp.
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Sep 11, 2003, 01:23 AM
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confutatis maledictis
Join Date: May 2002
Location: somewhere dark
Posts: 5,952
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bad form
I'll thank you fellows to keep your posts on a more mature level in the future, please . . . .
Regards,
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Sep 11, 2003, 01:53 AM
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DH's Dormant Dragon
Join Date: May 2002
Location: IN Rem-Dormancy
Posts: 23,665
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i wasn't saying that your sound problem weren't there....or that winamp couldn't have caused them.... i just find it odd..... no matter how many system i've installed it on... (every computer i build has winamp 3 installed on it... and is set accordingly the way i do)...... And all run Windows XP pro sp1..... sorry if i somehow offended you....didn't mean to do anything of the sort..... But i would be interested in the model name number of that Compaq...so that i could maybe see for myself if i've actually possibly worked on one before.....
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Sep 14, 2003, 02:45 PM
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DriverHeaven Lover
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Evesham
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lol, this is my opinion so don't take it to heart. i believe that winamp 2 + 3 are miles better than windows media player. the look of wmp is too bulky for me as i like a tidy screen. also i find wmp much slower than winamp but i haven't experienced any slow ups to my pc. i must admit i do use wmp to copy music to my hdd but this is stopping as i know have some new software. this is a remarkably pointless post but it raises my post tally so hey 
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Sep 15, 2003, 04:53 AM
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Banned
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Olympia, WA
Posts: 2,456
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Quote:
Originally posted by amuro
Guess what Genius I did all of that before I even made this Topic, I even reviewed all the WM9 settings over and over again while Winamp3 was installed.
My brother is still in high school and only uses his Compaq PC to download movies, music, burn cds, chatting, websurfing, 3d PC games and various console Emulator programs including an N64 emulator I installed in his PC, and he rarely does his homework due to all the distractions comming mainly from chatting too much.
Further, you want to insult my intelligence or knowledge of PCs with out even asking me what I know really makes you look like a troll trying to judge and insult someone you don't even know.
To put it nicely if you did not have good comment then do not say anything.
You want to know what else I did when I reconfigured his PC?
I updated his mobo's bios to the latest Compaq has.
I gathered all of the latest drivers, DirectX version and everything needed for tweaking the PC to maximum efficiency.
Before the install of Winamp3 there was NO sound crackle and slowdowns. Why do you think I noticed that?
BTW my sister also has a Compaq PC similar to my brother's and I recomfigured her's when her PC got a worm and her system does NOT HAVE WINAMP3 and is NOT RUNNING LIKE BULLCRAP.
I also run a home network with a firewall that I set up and configured MYSELF, also I configured the PCs to share files between each other because I myself have 4 other PCs I own aside from my main rig and that does not include my brother's PC and my sister's PC.
And my rigs are all intel systems ranging from 2 PIII 1Ghz with ATI FireGL 8800 workstation graphics card and the one below, the other is old P166Mhz preMMX cpu with Win98se and the other one is a HP I got that has a Celeron running Win NT and Linux.
Winamp3 installed some AOL icons, my brother may have clicked them by accident resulting in more spyware.
If you want a program you do not want to have added crap like AOL, therefore WA3 should NOT include AOL crap that I know is useless, just like I believe that Winamp is a redundant and useless program that is eclipsed by Windows Media player 9 and quick/real player alternative using Windows Media Classic.
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First of all I helped with the founding of this forum as I was one of the original crew so before you call me a troll you best watch it, k bub?
Second any person who wishes to challenge me intellectually best get ready to be told like I am about to do to you right now. I am going to tell you exactly what you were doing wrong and why some of what you posted cant be related to Winamp3.
First off the fact that it was resetting file associations should have been a clue to you that you needed to turn off preserve file associations in the Winamp Agent. That much was insanely obvious.
Second of all, you can choose to install Winamp3 without the AOL desktop icons. I mean come on, FFS. It is one of the options that is the easiest to see.
Third, AOL links on the desktop cannot install Spyware. This is also a no brainer.
Fourth, You say you updated the bios and drivers and tweaked his system for "max performance"
Well did you ever think one of your tweaks may have caused at least some of the issues you are describing?
Come on man, think. I happen to be a partner in a computer firm and we are AMD/MS/Intel Channel partners. I'm one of the guys who had the AMD-64 programmers manuals almost a year before anyone else. I dont play around or guess this happened or guess that happened. I deal with software/hardware issues every single day of the week.
As for your networking thing (which had nothing to do with the topic at hand I might add), its no big feat. We have 9 devices in this house all networked together (not including the hosting machine) using 1 cable connection and 1 dsl connection with an older machine of ours serving as a connection bridge this all then goes out to 2 seperate routers (1 for upstairs, 1 for downstairs). After that, it gets split at the hubs in both places since our bedroom has 1 XBox, 1 Laptop, 2 Desktops. Our roommate has 1 PC downstairs as well. Upstairs, my fiances brother has his computer, our development machine, and another machine just for lan parties. So like I said I'm not stupid by any means. I really know my stuff.
And for the last thing.....
[sarcastic]
Compaq just oozes quality
[/sarcastic]
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