graphics driver deleted

Phenixas · Nov 7, 2009, 11:41 AM

i made very big mistake,somehow i deleted my display driver and now i can't see anything except bios alert and windows loading screen later after that only bold empty screen,i heard windows starting sound but i can't see anything,my os windows xp. how can i solve this problem?

Tyrsonswood · Nov 7, 2009, 11:47 AM

Hit F8 as soon as it leaves the BIOS screen and get into safe mode...... re-install your drivers from there.

Optix · Nov 7, 2009, 01:07 PM

Something sounds funky. If you truly deleted your driver the proper way you should still be able see Windows but in a lower resolution after you restart. That is how it has always been for me at least.

I would boot into safe mode, run Driver Cleaner, boot into normal mode, install your drivers and reboot again. That should do it.

This is the way I have been updating my drivers from day one and I have yet to have a single problem.

Tyrsonswood · Nov 7, 2009, 01:23 PM

It could be if you are using a card for your main video, because you removed the drivers, windows switched over to motherboard video....... If you can't get a screen in safe mode from the card, try the mobo video jack (If applicable)

Phenixas · Nov 7, 2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrsonswood

It could be if you are using a card for your main video, because you removed the drivers, windows switched over to motherboard video....... If you can't get a screen in safe mode from the card, try the mobo video jack (If applicable)

yes i can't get a screen in safe mode,but what is mobo jack,can you explain ?

rajivsci · Nov 7, 2009, 02:16 PM

Dude try shifting ur graphics adapter from Discrete graphic card to Onboard integreted graphic chipset,

mostly there must be a display port on ur motherboard, try shifting to it.

I have a good feeling that u removed ur drivers forcefully. u shouldn't have done it,

And yes also look into your motherboards bios options, Change options from onboard to Discrete graphic card and vice versa.

that would help, One more thing , even if u uninstall drivers, Windows have basic drivers to support 4 bit to 32bit display basically, so when drivers get uninstall, windows automatically recognizes a new hardware and install basic drivers.

bye .

niceguyrichy · Nov 7, 2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Phenixas

yes i can't get a screen in safe mode,but what is mobo jack,can you explain ?

he means plug your monitor into the video output on your motherboard.
not the video output on your graphics card

you deleted the video drivers for the gfx card, so now your computer assumes that you're using the onboard video

SeraphicSorcerer · Nov 7, 2009, 04:16 PM

Yep, I'ma have to go with the group here, I arrived late to the party but I'd say its shifting to onboard.

Optix · Nov 7, 2009, 06:14 PM

And if he/she isn't using an IGP?

Tyrsonswood · Nov 7, 2009, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Optix

And if he/she isn't using an IGP?

Well I left that open by saying "if applicable" but if one doesn't exist on the motherboard he should get video from the add in card in safe mode...... Also if windows boots normally (minus video on the monitor) it's finding a video processor somewhere....... OP said he heard windows opening sound.

SeraphicSorcerer · Nov 7, 2009, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrsonswood

Well I left that open by saying "if applicable" but if one doesn't exist on the motherboard he should get video from the add in card in safe mode...... Also if windows boots normally (minus video on the monitor) it's finding a video processor somewhere....... OP said he heard windows opening sound.

@ Optix, this is precisely why we're saying it must be some some of IGP (or another video card) If it can't find video, simply put the system won't boot.

Unless somehow the video card was damaged severely, but most of the time the act of deleting software will not in anyway impede the hardware, just simply alter it's function.

We haven't heard back from the OP, so I guess we're waiting....

Optix · Nov 7, 2009, 08:15 PM

I'm not trying to stir the pot but rather posting a what if situation. I'm right along side with all of you thinking it switched things over to the IGP, especially since the OP can get past the POST but doesn't get video in safe mode.

It was for my own curiosity since I haven't heard reports of a partially functioning card like this.

Phenixas · Nov 8, 2009, 05:09 AM

there is no mono jack on my system. and i checked bios,there is no onboard graphics,looks like i crashed my vga or what?

Optix · Nov 8, 2009, 06:24 AM

There is someone with a similar problem to you. It looks like they fixed the problem by reformatting.

http://forums.techguy.org/hardware/1...o-boot-up.html

I'd say that is a last resort though.

Tyrsonswood · Nov 8, 2009, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Phenixas

there is no mono jack on my system. and i checked bios,there is no onboard graphics,looks like i crashed my vga or what?

What motherboard and graphics card you running?

Phenixas · Nov 8, 2009, 07:31 AM

motherboard: via p4x266-pe11/t and my video card: s3 savage4

Tyrsonswood · Nov 8, 2009, 07:56 AM

Okay.... your motherboard has no graphics, so that idea was a flop. Did you have video problems before you deleted the drivers?

rajivsci · Nov 8, 2009, 09:16 AM

well it seems the problem is with os not system, if u see , Cmos and post screen than ur card is pretty much working, it must be drivers. Format ur system or, run os setup without formattting, that can fix errors too. and if not, take ur hardrive to another computer with onboard graphics, and boot from there. install the drivers forcefully, without the hardware. When u boot next time it will recognize the hardware automatically and start display.

PS-I could be wrong in saying, But whats wrong in trying things. hehe.

Phenixas · Nov 8, 2009, 09:20 AM

yes i had serious problem,when i used windows for some time my pc freezes and apeared a blue screen saying that windows was preventing my computer from serious damage and past 100 seconds pc reboots,that blue screen also said that fault is file s3sav4.dll i found it and deleted,but it was main display driver,it's my fault for this

Tyrsonswood · Nov 8, 2009, 10:30 AM

Okay.... this previous problem was probably still a corrupt driver and not bad hardware. (I'm guessing, but from what I'm reading seems likely) When you try to boot into safe mode using F8 do you see the options screen, black screen with white text? There should be an option to force VGA mode, have you tried that?

Windows should do this itself in safe mode but it must be finding parts of the S3Savage drivers, just not the s3sav4.dll you deleted so it boots but can't display.... very odd.

I'd hate to have you just reinstall windows as you may lose your files but that is an option.... it would be nice if we can find a workaround so it's not necessary.

Optix · Nov 8, 2009, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyrsonswood

Okay.... this previous problem was probably still a corrupt driver and not bad hardware. (I'm guessing, but from what I'm reading seems likely) When you try to boot into safe mode using F8 do you see the options screen, black screen with white text? There should be an option to force VGA mode, have you tried that?

Windows should do this itself in safe mode but it must be finding parts of the S3Savage drivers, just not the s3sav4.dll you deleted so it boots but can't display.... very odd.

I'd hate to have you just reinstall windows as you may lose your files but that is an option.

I always keep a copy of SLAX on my USB drive in case something goes wrong with the OS and I need to retrieve a few files. Normally anything I truly care about is on a separate storage drive but it's nice to have a fall back plan. Just boot from the flash drive (or you could burn it as an ISO), it'll load itself into the system memory and away you go. You can grab any files you need and transfer the location or put them on another USB drive.

Phenixas · Nov 8, 2009, 11:17 AM

when i tried safe mode blank page and text is displayed but nothing else,vga mode does not work

Tyrsonswood · Nov 8, 2009, 01:42 PM

Do you have access to a different video card you can swap out for a while? (from a friend, older card, something like that.)

SeraphicSorcerer · Nov 8, 2009, 02:48 PM

I could have swore there was a Enable VGA mode that was suppose to get around issues like this in safe mode.

Otherwise as Tyronswood said, try another video card.

There are only 2 conclusions at this point, either the card itself somehow fried but is partially functioning (Unlikely as you're not experiencing "display issues, garbled text etc)

Or the Software has been so well deleted once it enters the "video load" portion of Windows it just goes blank"

Either way sir, you are good.

In all seriousness though try the Enable VGA mode, and then try a different card, also possibly if you enable VGA pallete snoop (if it's available) it may help with enabling vga mode... But that is in no way a guarantee since most cards don't even use that feature anymore, I just noticed you said a savage 4.

Optix · Nov 8, 2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Phenixas

when i tried safe mode blank page and text is displayed but nothing else,vga mode does not work

I think SLAX would help out here as well. If you can get that loaded and see everything you know it's not hardware related.

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Originally Posted by SeraphicSorcerer

I could have swore there was a Enable VGA mode that was suppose to get around issues like this in safe mode.

I thought you could force VGA mode when trying to enter safe mode?

If not it shows you how often I use safe mode.

SeraphicSorcerer · Nov 8, 2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Optix

I think SLAX would help out here as well. If you can get that loaded and see everything you know it's not hardware related.

I thought you could force VGA mode when trying to enter safe mode?

If not it shows you how often I use safe mode.

There's actually a sub option, for VGA mode, and there's also a last known good, which also may work... The Snoop option is required by some older cards and at this point he doesn't have much to lose by trying it, I think he's going to have to end up formatting but those are some last ditch options.

Nov 7, 2009, 11:41 AM	#1
Phenixas DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lithuania Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	graphics driver deleted i made very big mistake,somehow i deleted my display driver and now i can't see anything except bios alert and windows loading screen later after that only bold empty screen,i heard windows starting sound but i can't see anything,my os windows xp. how can i solve this problem?

Nov 7, 2009, 01:07 PM	#3
Optix DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 186 Rep Power: 10 System Specs	Re: graphics driver deleted Something sounds funky. If you truly deleted your driver the proper way you should still be able see Windows but in a lower resolution after you restart. That is how it has always been for me at least. I would boot into safe mode, run Driver Cleaner, boot into normal mode, install your drivers and reboot again. That should do it. This is the way I have been updating my drivers from day one and I have yet to have a single problem. __________________ CPU-Z Validation & GPU-Z Validation $$$ Buget Builders Of The World Unite $$$

Nov 7, 2009, 02:16 PM	#6
rajivsci DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: India Posts: 82 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: graphics driver deleted Dude try shifting ur graphics adapter from Discrete graphic card to Onboard integreted graphic chipset, mostly there must be a display port on ur motherboard, try shifting to it. I have a good feeling that u removed ur drivers forcefully. u shouldn't have done it, And yes also look into your motherboards bios options, Change options from onboard to Discrete graphic card and vice versa. that would help, One more thing , even if u uninstall drivers, Windows have basic drivers to support 4 bit to 32bit display basically, so when drivers get uninstall, windows automatically recognizes a new hardware and install basic drivers. bye .

Nov 7, 2009, 04:16 PM	#8
SeraphicSorcerer Driverheaven's Sorcerer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 1,136 Rep Power: 74 System Specs	Re: graphics driver deleted Yep, I'ma have to go with the group here, I arrived late to the party but I'd say its shifting to onboard. __________________

Nov 7, 2009, 06:14 PM	#9
Optix DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 186 Rep Power: 10 System Specs	Re: graphics driver deleted And if he/she isn't using an IGP? __________________ CPU-Z Validation & GPU-Z Validation $$$ Buget Builders Of The World Unite $$$ Last edited by Optix; Nov 7, 2009 at 08:05 PM.

Nov 7, 2009, 08:15 PM	#12
Optix DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 186 Rep Power: 10 System Specs	Re: graphics driver deleted I'm not trying to stir the pot but rather posting a what if situation. I'm right along side with all of you thinking it switched things over to the IGP, especially since the OP can get past the POST but doesn't get video in safe mode. It was for my own curiosity since I haven't heard reports of a partially functioning card like this. __________________ CPU-Z Validation & GPU-Z Validation $$$ Buget Builders Of The World Unite $$$

Nov 8, 2009, 05:09 AM	#13
Phenixas DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lithuania Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	Re: graphics driver deleted there is no mono jack on my system. and i checked bios,there is no onboard graphics,looks like i crashed my vga or what?

Nov 8, 2009, 06:24 AM	#14
Optix DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 186 Rep Power: 10 System Specs	Re: graphics driver deleted There is someone with a similar problem to you. It looks like they fixed the problem by reformatting. http://forums.techguy.org/hardware/1...o-boot-up.html I'd say that is a last resort though. __________________ CPU-Z Validation & GPU-Z Validation $$$ Buget Builders Of The World Unite $$$ Last edited by Optix; Nov 8, 2009 at 06:30 AM.

Nov 8, 2009, 07:31 AM	#16
Phenixas DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lithuania Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	Re: graphics driver deleted motherboard: via p4x266-pe11/t and my video card: s3 savage4

Nov 8, 2009, 09:16 AM	#18
rajivsci DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: India Posts: 82 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: graphics driver deleted well it seems the problem is with os not system, if u see , Cmos and post screen than ur card is pretty much working, it must be drivers. Format ur system or, run os setup without formattting, that can fix errors too. and if not, take ur hardrive to another computer with onboard graphics, and boot from there. install the drivers forcefully, without the hardware. When u boot next time it will recognize the hardware automatically and start display. PS-I could be wrong in saying, But whats wrong in trying things. hehe.

Nov 8, 2009, 09:20 AM	#19
Phenixas DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lithuania Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	Re: graphics driver deleted yes i had serious problem,when i used windows for some time my pc freezes and apeared a blue screen saying that windows was preventing my computer from serious damage and past 100 seconds pc reboots,that blue screen also said that fault is file s3sav4.dll i found it and deleted,but it was main display driver,it's my fault for this

Nov 8, 2009, 11:17 AM	#22
Phenixas DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lithuania Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	Re: graphics driver deleted when i tried safe mode blank page and text is displayed but nothing else,vga mode does not work

Nov 8, 2009, 02:48 PM	#24
SeraphicSorcerer Driverheaven's Sorcerer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 1,136 Rep Power: 74 System Specs	Re: graphics driver deleted I could have swore there was a Enable VGA mode that was suppose to get around issues like this in safe mode. Otherwise as Tyronswood said, try another video card. There are only 2 conclusions at this point, either the card itself somehow fried but is partially functioning (Unlikely as you're not experiencing "display issues, garbled text etc) Or the Software has been so well deleted once it enters the "video load" portion of Windows it just goes blank" Either way sir, you are good. In all seriousness though try the Enable VGA mode, and then try a different card, also possibly if you enable VGA pallete snoop (if it's available) it may help with enabling vga mode... But that is in no way a guarantee since most cards don't even use that feature anymore, I just noticed you said a savage 4. __________________ Last edited by SeraphicSorcerer; Nov 8, 2009 at 03:49 PM.