Intel Dual Core or C2D

comp_ali · Jun 10, 2009, 11:20 AM

I am picking a new cpu for my brother , I want one that can remain at constant temps and never exceeds 40c I have MB : Gigabyte 945 S2C , He doesn't game at all may be light games like Pro evolution Soccer from time to time , I am between Intel Dual core E5200 2.5GHZ /2MB and E7200 C2D 2.6GHZ/ 3MB but the latter is more expensive by about 35$ , does it worth the money or just go with Dual core , the most thing I want to take care of the low temps as he likes to play media on his PC 24/7 (even while sleeping

) so I want a CPU that don't get overheated with the continuous work ,room temp :+30c

Judas · Jun 10, 2009, 11:36 AM

would be easier if we had a model of the "dual core"....

but if it's the model i think it is.. the $30+ dollars for the other one is worthwhile..

comp_ali · Jun 10, 2009, 12:27 PM

Ah E5200 , edited

BlueMak · Jun 10, 2009, 12:45 PM

As far as I know, the C2D is much better performing than a CD. But your 350W power supply is...dangerously low.

comp_ali · Jun 10, 2009, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueMak

As far as I know, the C2D is much better performing than a CD. But your 350W power supply is...dangerously low.

As for him I am not planning for picking him a GPU just the integrated would be fine , and I think the C2D take less power aren't they.

But for me what do you recommend "specs at the left".

anonemus · Jun 10, 2009, 01:35 PM

I own an E5200. Same architecture as the E7200, except for FSB (800 vs 1066) and L2 cache (2 vs 3 MB).

I seriously doubt with the light load you'll be doing that you'll see a significant difference. I'd say go for the E5200 and use the $30 savings to buy a good aftermarket CPU cooler

BlueMak · Jun 10, 2009, 02:16 PM

I don't know the exact speed/performance difference between the two, but I find it silly to buy a cheaper cpu and better cooling solution so that you overclock the cpu to make it reach the speed of the original faster cpu.
But, that is just me.

BlueMak · Jun 10, 2009, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comp_ali

But for me what do you recommend "specs at the left".

For you I recommend my soon to be put on sale previous PC with a Q6600, 2GB RAM, 8800GTS (640MB), 1500GB of HDD space, and a very conservative but cool PC case. :-p

If you want a pc for gaming for now and the next couple of years, go for a quad core cpu. Be it Q, i, or AMD.

anonemus · Jun 10, 2009, 02:28 PM

I didn't recommend any OCing to be done as the proc will just be used for playing video, music and other media files.

There is only 100Ghz difference between the E5200 and E7200. Both are 45nm Wolfdale processors.

And because comp_ali is concerned about his room temp (+30c!) and case temp (target of constant 40c is unrealistic with the stock cooler for either proc), he will definitely need to get an aftermarket CPU cooler...

comp_ali · Jun 10, 2009, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueMak

For you I recommend my soon to be put on sale previous PC with a Q6600, 2GB RAM, 8800GTS (640MB), 1500GB of HDD space, and a very conservative but cool PC case. :-p

If you want a pc for gaming for now and the next couple of years, go for a quad core cpu. Be it Q, i, or AMD.

Nah, I meant about the PSU , About the new rig I am waiting till I save enough money to built i7 one "got the MB from DH GOTY just buying CPU and DDR3 ram but it is ridiculously expensive here at this time.

BlueMak · Jun 10, 2009, 03:14 PM

350W probably means about 300 top, and at constant and at that hot room...it just doesn't feel safe to me.

About the original question, if it is only going to be used for light work then do as anonemus says, buy the cheaper one and get a more expensive cooling solution since you want it so low. Even with that though I would advice to forget this upgrade and buy an Air Conditioner. Or have the case open, buy a small floor fan (those with 3 speeds) and make it face the mainboard. That will cool it enough. But the amount of dust will be unbelievable.

Judas · Jun 10, 2009, 05:27 PM

i've built MANY E5200 machines.... and the E7200 is actually noticeably better...

specially parred with matchin ram....

comp_ali · Jun 10, 2009, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueMak

350W probably means about 300 top, and at constant and at that hot room...it just doesn't feel safe to me.

About the original question, if it is only going to be used for light work then do as anonemus says, buy the cheaper one and get a more expensive cooling solution since you want it so low. Even with that though I would advice to forget this upgrade and buy an Air Conditioner. Or have the case open, buy a small floor fan (those with 3 speeds) and make it face the mainboard. That will cool it enough. But the amount of dust will be unbelievable.

I do that with my current rig blowing the dust with a blower every couple of days but I am not upgrading in the real meaning of the word Just the old one died and I am looking for a replacement as fast as I can "so I can sit on my computer without sharing ,lol"

BlueMak · Jun 10, 2009, 05:51 PM

Well then, perhaps in the long run you should consider moving to northern europe lol.

If you already do the trick with the fan and play games, then just buy the more expensive cpu. BUT, if you can find even a Q6600 at a similar (or lower) price, and your mainboard supports it, then I would advice getting that one.

Judas · Jun 10, 2009, 06:25 PM

i would easily grab a Q6600 over either of them.... it'd be a no brainer.. but even here.. a E7200 is far cheaper then a Q6600

Mac Daddy · Jun 10, 2009, 09:10 PM

Q6600 is solid the E7200 would be the better choice if he can't afford that.

**kris23** · Jun 10, 2009, 09:18 PM

id just get the dual-core if C2D is too expensive neither support virtualization so it doesnt have very many redeeming qualities

comp_ali · Jun 11, 2009, 01:59 AM

The MB supports only Dual core and C2D , I think I am going to get E5200.

anonemus · Jun 11, 2009, 02:24 AM

Make sure your mobo can support a 45nm Dual Core and Core2Duo. Some mobos can only support 65nm Duals and C2D..

Tipstaff · Jun 11, 2009, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anonemus

Make sure your mobo can support a 45nm Dual Core and Core2Duo. Some mobos can only support 65nm Duals and C2D..

The Gigabyte 945 S2C supports both chips, thankfully.

My advice, go with the E7200. Don't think about the fact that it costs $30 more. Think about the long run. If, or rather when he does buy his own graphics card he'll thank you for getting the E7200.

ET3D · Jun 11, 2009, 04:34 AM

Take a look at this: AnandTech Bench (beta): Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 vs Intel Pentium Dual Core E5200

comp_ali · Jun 11, 2009, 05:59 AM

Thanks anonemus, Tipstaff and ET3D , OK I will get the E7200 but there is a final question the MB supports 1066 FBS (But only by Overclocking) will that bottleneck E7200

comp_ali · Jun 11, 2009, 06:11 AM

Oh sorry I just looked at the box now , It is 1333 that not that 1066 . Sorry for the confusion , now it should be fine .

Thanks for your replies , I am going to buy after 4 hours

Mac Daddy · Jun 11, 2009, 07:22 AM

Hope it works well for you Bro

comp_ali · Jun 11, 2009, 08:31 AM

will update with pics after purchasing.

anonemus · Jun 11, 2009, 09:58 AM

@ ET3D-- nice link!

Enjoy your new proc, comp_ali

mkk · Jun 11, 2009, 10:23 AM

Check these pages to see whether it's best to update the BIOS before installing the new CPU.
For your board:
GIGABYTE - Support&Download - Motherboard - CPU Support List - GA-945GCM-S2L
For his board:
GIGABYTE - Support&Download - Motherboard - CPU Support List - GA-945GCM-S2C

comp_ali · Jun 11, 2009, 03:23 PM

Just got E7400 2.8 as the price difference may be neglected , installed and working like charm.
wait for pics.

comp_ali · Jun 12, 2009, 01:01 PM

. On the box I read it supports Viiv technology , what does that mean .

Cpu-z

anonemus · Jun 14, 2009, 11:56 PM

Wiki's your friend

Intel Viiv - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jun 10, 2009, 11:20 AM	#1
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 3,699 Rep Power: 98 System Specs	Intel Dual Core or C2D I am picking a new cpu for my brother , I want one that can remain at constant temps and never exceeds 40c I have MB : Gigabyte 945 S2C , He doesn't game at all may be light games like Pro evolution Soccer from time to time , I am between Intel Dual core E5200 2.5GHZ /2MB and E7200 C2D 2.6GHZ/ 3MB but the latter is more expensive by about 35$ , does it worth the money or just go with Dual core , the most thing I want to take care of the low temps as he likes to play media on his PC 24/7 (even while sleeping ) so I want a CPU that don't get overheated with the continuous work ,room temp :+30c __________________ "It is doubtful how DRM could reduce piracy and there no way it can boost games sales either" Last edited by comp_ali; Jun 10, 2009 at 12:27 PM.

Jun 10, 2009, 12:27 PM	#3
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 3,699 Rep Power: 98 System Specs	Re: Intel Dual Core or C2D Ah E5200 , edited __________________ "It is doubtful how DRM could reduce piracy and there no way it can boost games sales either"

Jun 10, 2009, 12:45 PM	#4
BlueMak DH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 8,260 Rep Power: 118 System Specs	Re: Intel Dual Core or C2D As far as I know, the C2D is much better performing than a CD. But your 350W power supply is...dangerously low. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Jun 10, 2009, 01:35 PM	#6
anonemus DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Philippines Posts: 220 Rep Power: 14 System Specs	Re: Intel Dual Core or C2D I own an E5200. Same architecture as the E7200, except for FSB (800 vs 1066) and L2 cache (2 vs 3 MB). I seriously doubt with the light load you'll be doing that you'll see a significant difference. I'd say go for the E5200 and use the $30 savings to buy a good aftermarket CPU cooler __________________ write a book. plant a tree. raise a child. build a rig.

Jun 10, 2009, 02:16 PM	#7
BlueMak DH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 8,260 Rep Power: 118 System Specs	Re: Intel Dual Core or C2D I don't know the exact speed/performance difference between the two, but I find it silly to buy a cheaper cpu and better cooling solution so that you overclock the cpu to make it reach the speed of the original faster cpu. But, that is just me. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Jun 10, 2009, 02:28 PM	#9
anonemus DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Philippines Posts: 220 Rep Power: 14 System Specs	Re: Intel Dual Core or C2D I didn't recommend any OCing to be done as the proc will just be used for playing video, music and other media files. There is only 100Ghz difference between the E5200 and E7200. Both are 45nm Wolfdale processors. And because comp_ali is concerned about his room temp (+30c!) and case temp (target of constant 40c is unrealistic with the stock cooler for either proc), he will definitely need to get an aftermarket CPU cooler... __________________ write a book. plant a tree. raise a child. build a rig.

Jun 10, 2009, 03:14 PM	#11
BlueMak DH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 8,260 Rep Power: 118 System Specs	Re: Intel Dual Core or C2D 350W probably means about 300 top, and at constant and at that hot room...it just doesn't feel safe to me. About the original question, if it is only going to be used for light work then do as anonemus says, buy the cheaper one and get a more expensive cooling solution since you want it so low. Even with that though I would advice to forget this upgrade and buy an Air Conditioner. Or have the case open, buy a small floor fan (those with 3 speeds) and make it face the mainboard. That will cool it enough. But the amount of dust will be unbelievable. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Jun 10, 2009, 05:51 PM	#14
BlueMak DH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 8,260 Rep Power: 118 System Specs	Re: Intel Dual Core or C2D Well then, perhaps in the long run you should consider moving to northern europe lol. If you already do the trick with the fan and play games, then just buy the more expensive cpu. BUT, if you can find even a Q6600 at a similar (or lower) price, and your mainboard supports it, then I would advice getting that one. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Jun 10, 2009, 09:10 PM	#16
Mac Daddy DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 7,950 Rep Power: 64 System Specs	Re: Intel Dual Core or C2D Q6600 is solid the E7200 would be the better choice if he can't afford that. __________________ "My mom said the only reason men are alive is for lawn care and vehicle maintenance." - Tim Allen

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comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 3,699 Rep Power: 98 System Specs	Re: Intel Dual Core or C2D The MB supports only Dual core and C2D , I think I am going to get E5200. __________________ "It is doubtful how DRM could reduce piracy and there no way it can boost games sales either"

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anonemus DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Philippines Posts: 220 Rep Power: 14 System Specs	Re: Intel Dual Core or C2D Make sure your mobo can support a 45nm Dual Core and Core2Duo. Some mobos can only support 65nm Duals and C2D.. __________________ write a book. plant a tree. raise a child. build a rig.

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comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 3,699 Rep Power: 98 System Specs	Re: Intel Dual Core or C2D Thanks anonemus, Tipstaff and ET3D , OK I will get the E7200 but there is a final question the MB supports 1066 FBS (But only by Overclocking) will that bottleneck E7200 __________________ "It is doubtful how DRM could reduce piracy and there no way it can boost games sales either"

Jun 11, 2009, 06:11 AM	#23
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 3,699 Rep Power: 98 System Specs	Re: Intel Dual Core or C2D Oh sorry I just looked at the box now , It is 1333 that not that 1066 . Sorry for the confusion , now it should be fine . Thanks for your replies , I am going to buy after 4 hours __________________ "It is doubtful how DRM could reduce piracy and there no way it can boost games sales either"

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comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 3,699 Rep Power: 98 System Specs	Re: Intel Dual Core or C2D Just got E7400 2.8 as the price difference may be neglected , installed and working like charm. wait for pics. __________________ "It is doubtful how DRM could reduce piracy and there no way it can boost games sales either"

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