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Apr 6, 2008, 04:02 AM
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why no nvidia card? those 3870s are no longer the best value for money. id get a 8800 series card for the same price, faster and better drivers.
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Apr 6, 2008, 07:21 AM
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Overall, a nice system. The Phenom 9750 is a B3 stepping, so the TLB bug is fixed.
But why go for an AMD system instead of an Intel setup? But at the time, AMD provide processors that are not as energy efficient an as powerful as Intel's Core2Quad Penryn processors, also the AMD solution are not OC friendly. With the new Penryn cpu's you could easy hit the 4+ ghz barrier. But in the end, the Phenom 9750 is fast enough for most games (also applications), since most games are bound by the gpu instead of the cpu and the Phenom got the SSE4a which is great for super fast video encoding. (A good alternative would be: an Intel P35 based motherboard combined with a C2Q Q6600 G0 stepping 95W). As for the videocard, the HD3870 is good, but nVidia's Geforce 9600gt performs as good as the HD3870 at a lower price. But then again, the Diamond Viper HD3870 got VIVO which is great for a HTPC/Media Center setup, for recording TV shows/ timesharing etc. By the way, no soundcard? Last edited by tcman; Apr 6, 2008 at 11:30 AM. Reason: correct the word into "Penryn" |
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Apr 6, 2008, 08:58 AM
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Nice setup Robert; let us know how everything works. Did you already get the sound card or are you using the onboard sound?
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Apr 6, 2008, 09:01 AM
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Nice pick robert, can't wait to see how she runs
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Apr 6, 2008, 12:50 PM
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reason why no intel I don't want spend alot money
 As for sound card I'm keeping my xfi music card for now. If there something worng with it. I buy new sound card later as for dvd burner I have one. I have LG supermuilt read 20x dvd ram drive I'm still looking for options maybe on video cards like I said I don't want push my spending over 1200 bucks lol I don't play heavy shoting games like most people do anyway I want least run great for my test drive unlimited and hockey and football and and my haulin truck game. Thanks fro more coments. Intel qaud core 2.4 way to priceie for me it's still at 250 bucks I thought be 200 bucks by now lol.Thats why I"m going with amd for now lol. As for mother boards don't get me started again it was hard to choice right mover board for the amd side lol.
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Apr 6, 2008, 02:59 PM
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You changed a lot of stuff from what was picked out earlier.
Some changes could be made, but hey, it's your system. Good luck with it. Just glad you built it yourself.
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Apr 6, 2008, 03:00 PM
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dump the diamond card and go with this
Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100225L Radeon HD 3870 512MB 256-bit GDDR4 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics allows you to get 4 of them and sapphire support i think is a bit better since you are getting AMD, its pretty obvious that you arent going to do any OCing so theres no need for big cooling systems, best go wiith expandability for you.
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Apr 6, 2008, 04:52 PM
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That setup will Crossfire out the wazoo if you want to down the road - got you a very flexible mainboard there - full of features!
You might want to consider the 640G Western Digital hard drive just released for 25% more space and better speed overall. It should be about $20.00 more. I just ordered one last night actually for my new machine - and I've been shopping drives carefully for myself for a long time now...
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Apr 6, 2008, 06:52 PM
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i dunno how fast the 7200.11s are now with the firmware update........
but knowing how Judas has over 600MB/s with his 6 drives i think its still better than that..... will do more research, looks interesting
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Apr 6, 2008, 08:08 PM
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My .11 was already fixed but it's hard to know which ones have the problem or not.
Robert if you're not planning on overclocking I wouldn't waste the extra money on the ram. I would spend it on a x2.
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Apr 6, 2008, 08:25 PM
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3870X2?
you do know that its generally weaker than 2 3870s in crossfire mainly because the X2 uses GDDR3 vs GDDR4 in the 3870s hes got 4 slots so theres nothing to worry about or need
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Apr 6, 2008, 11:27 PM
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Hey guys I know a freind who From michigan that works on computers on my yahoo list
he from Monroe, Michigan I'm going ask him if he can build me a computer to see what hey said this his web site CainTechServices -- Computer Repair & Maintenance, Web Hosting, Email Service Right now there no rush building yet lol.
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Apr 7, 2008, 06:42 AM
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Robert McClelland,
hope you don't mind me asking, you just has no confidence or what? any reasons why you don't want to try having this computer build by yourself? |
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Apr 7, 2008, 10:10 AM
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if you failed preschool and couldnt grasp the concept that the square peg goes in the square hole and the round peg goes in the round hole and still dont....
then building a computer isnt for you..... but im pretty sure you are intelligent enough to do it...... or else you probably would never have known how to use a computer....
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Apr 7, 2008, 02:38 PM
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I just don't know yet I'm in no rush lol I might build one or not depends
beside I don't want mess up screws in mother board ect.. I would see later on I just wondering if my freind maybe has better deal on parts then what newegg is offtering lol. Thats all I"m lookin at other options if I don't herd from him this week I just build my own then.
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Apr 7, 2008, 03:41 PM
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ah, okay, i just thought you sound like a good guy and have some friends here at DH who will help you if you have problem building the system.
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Apr 7, 2008, 04:20 PM
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Ya I just don't yet
I might build it I just have talked to my freind from down state on yahoo first. Maybe he can get good deal on better parts lol If not I'm plain order those parts this week. while card on sale I don't really want spend another 200 on a card while my card choice on sale
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Apr 7, 2008, 08:30 PM
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Apr 7, 2008, 10:12 PM
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Don't worry I'm going plain build one.
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Apr 8, 2008, 09:27 AM
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i say its worse now....
saving money and "fast" dont mix hell.... AMD and fast dont mix... yet but AMD and cheap do.... your last motherboard was better and your last RAM was ALOT better the other sapphire 3870 has no fan issues like most others with stock cooling. stays cooler, doubt it but it may be a similar heatsink as the Atomic card do yourself a favor and switch back... you need vista ultimate x64 not x86 also
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Apr 8, 2008, 09:35 AM
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Looks like a danged nice AMD system. I'd only change two things if it was mine. I'd go with a Corsair 620HX...but that's just personal preference, as there is nothing at all wrong with the PSU you have listed.
The other thing I would do is go with the 64-bit version of Vista. I just added that to my multi-boot system, and it's running very nice, with no compatability issues at all. Especially after I turned off some of the "Windows for Dummys" options. I especially like the case...If I hadn't just recently upgraded to the CM 690, I would have have jumped on the RC 590 in a heartbeat. With my Koolance Exos sitting on top of the case (I don't have room to put it anyplace else), I lose the USB connections that are up there on the 690.  With the 590 that wouldn't have happened, and I would have still had all of the other nice features of the 690 internally.
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Apr 8, 2008, 01:02 PM
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If you're going w/ that processor I'd recommend going back to the 1066 ram as well since it supports it. Does the B3 stepping fix the weird issues w/ these processors & Vist x64?
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Apr 8, 2008, 04:15 PM
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If you are talking about the TLB 'bug' then it's really a non-issue. That was blown WAY out of proportion (most likely buy a 'certain other' processor's fanbois) just so thay could say "AMD SUXXORZ"
It only happens in a servrer environment and only under some very special conditions. The average user would never see it. You want processor bugs? Try this. It starts on page 20 and goes thru page 52! http://download.intel.com/design/mob...T/30922214.pdf Intel fanbois never seem to want to mention this!. The thing is, ALL processors have errata, however, just like the TBL one that everyone seems to be so worried about, they only happen under special circumstances, and they aren't worth fixing for the most part.
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Apr 8, 2008, 04:59 PM
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I'm going with this motherboard then. It has most usb ports I need. I really do need 6 ports lol. Newegg.com - JetWay HA04-Extreme AM2+/AM2 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard - AMD Motherboards ? About the Ram now I don't really want pay for alot of it I think thats budget is perfect now. Do I really need x64 bit I don't if my HP printer would work with it. So your staying get this card instead of other one with free game? Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100225L Radeon HD 3870 512MB 256-bit GDDR4 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics How about this ram? it's good at the price plus it's crossfire ready Newegg.com - OCZ Platinum Revision 2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Desktop Memory ? I Know it's it's slower then 1066 but worth the price I don't care spend to much on ram hehe.
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Apr 8, 2008, 08:31 PM
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now its even WORSE... boy, you are lucky that you got everyone here to show you the works of the computer.... no worries, once you are done here, you will be well versed in the workings of this system you going with a Jetway board instantly brought you from the quality range of boards to the backwater crap places with probably no support..... Jetway is a brand associated with only the lowest budget systems that need to meet a certain price..... stick with the MSI board, stick with the Sapphire 3870, and stick with 4GB DDR2 1066. as for the USB ports, just use an internal hub that plugs into the internal USB headers. the printer will run on x64 bit vista because of the 32 bit emulator that it comes with. please stop trying to buy cheap RAM, you dont know how bad it can cripple your system.... especially your AMD and its very nice internal memory controller.....
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Apr 8, 2008, 09:11 PM
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Apr 8, 2008, 09:40 PM
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the only reason TLB made such a big fuss is that it was the only errata big enough that could chuck a systems whole stability out the window....
either way, thats all done and resolved.... if the quads can OC better and at least to 3.0GHz, i think they can make excellent gaming procs as the memory controller gives noticably better performance.
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Apr 8, 2008, 10:51 PM
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so stick with this MSI board right? Newegg.com - MSI K9A2 Platinum AM2+/AM2 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard - AMD Motherboards ?
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