Plaese tell me what you think of my new pc

3FUN · Dec 25, 2007, 10:24 AM

Hi I am building a new pc and i need some thoughts for my configuration.
I already have:
ASUS P5E3
ASUS EAH2400PRO
just ordered Kingstone DDR3 1GB 1066Mhz
and thinking of getting Intel Core2Duo E6550.
Is this a good configuration for games?
Thank You.

**kris23** · Dec 25, 2007, 11:33 AM

not exactly.....

you paired one of the most powerful boards on the planet with an HD 2400PRO, 1GB of snail paced RAM and the lowest end Conroe on the market?

i would understand if those were stepping stone components, meaning you would upgrade as soon as the new affordable stuff comes out.

but as of right now, that system doesnt meet the standards of ANY high end gaming.

the 2400 card probably wont be able to play any of the latest games even on minimum settings.

DDR3 1066 is a heck of alot slower than DDR2, thats why people should only get DDR3 1600 or just stick with DDR2. it probably wouldn't be able to handle XP loading very well let alone some kind of game like crysis or COD4

the e6550 is powerful, somewhat...... but every other component you have chosen is going to bring it down.

the system board you have right now is ranked right around 3rd place in terms of performance of the worlds most powerful boards....... but they cost over $300

good DDR3 is going to set you back $400-500, a good quad core will set you back $280, a good GPU will set you back $279-390

if you cant afford this price tag then dont continue anymore, it will be a very expensive waste of your money..

if you give me your price range, i can put together a better performing list for your price.

**kris23** · Dec 25, 2007, 12:05 PM

looking at the components you have and are getting, this is what i came up with in the $700 range

Newegg.com - EVGA 512-P3-N801-AR GeForce 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Newegg.com - Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-P35C-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 Conroe 2.33GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail
Newegg.com - ZEROtherm Nirvana NV120 120mm 2-ball UFO Bearing / Transparent CPU Cooler - Retail
Newegg.com - Tuniq TX-2 Thermal Compound - Retail

that is what i came up with for the money you are spending on your system. something leagues ahead of what you are getting.....

if you buy this system, you WILL get gaming

**temeteus82** · Dec 25, 2007, 01:13 PM

Moved to Hardware forums!

I think kris23's recommendation for parts would suit your need nicely

3FUN · Dec 25, 2007, 06:38 PM

I am planing on upgrading after a while to +1GB (total 2GB), and waiting for a better graphic that fully supports DX10.

**kris23** · Dec 26, 2007, 01:27 AM

uhh..... there are tons of cards that have full DX10 support.

but if you are talking DX10.1 then thats a whole other story

all ATi 3000 series cards support DX10.1 and shader model 4.1 even though theyre a joke at higher ends......

its really pointless upgrading at this time, you are buying at the worst time possible, you have no money and cant buy the recommended hardware

1 gig sticks arent even the real things to buy, in a few months, the performance DDR3 will all be 2 gig sticks

the X48 motherboards are so close to release, they have a modified memory controller which enhances throughput and latencies further, they are worth it if you are truly taking DDR3 seriously.

the best route to go wouldve been to buy the system i listed up on top, buy some DDR3 1800-2000mhz when the time is right and go to nehalem straight after.

but seeing as how you bought the components already, you sealed your path. i already answered your question, you cant game with your current setup, you will need at least an 8800GT or HD 3850

ChaosMinionX · Dec 26, 2007, 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kris23

the X48 motherboards are so close to release, they have a modified memory controller which enhances throughput and latencies further.

Incorrect.

X48 is Identical to X38 in every way/shape/form. It is only a speed binned X38, (IE- Has better electrical properties, that showed it could OC better, or have a little better performance) They did not retool the X38 at all, they just slapped a new tag on it to delineate between them, and add 20$ per Chip.

However yes, it OCs a bit better, but at clock for clock its identical to X38.

cozumel · Dec 26, 2007, 06:03 AM

Is it worth considering an X48 then or is it better to wait for Nehalem based mobo next fall?

**kris23** · Dec 26, 2007, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX

Incorrect.

X48 is Identical to X38 in every way/shape/form. It is only a speed binned X38, (IE- Has better electrical properties, that showed it could OC better, or have a little better performance) They did not retool the X38 at all, they just slapped a new tag on it to delineate between them, and add 20$ per Chip.

However yes, it OCs a bit better, but at clock for clock its identical to X38.

yes but the memory controller is still faster no matter how you look at it

if you look at benches from the two boards you will see that the memory is a decent bit faster.

ChaosMinionX · Dec 26, 2007, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kris23

yes but the memory controller is still faster no matter how you look at it

if you look at benches from the two boards you will see that the memory is a decent bit faster.

The memory controller is the Northbridge.... it is no faster than X38 at the same clock, it "theoretically" will overclock further than the x38, but thats not guaranteed, it also allowed intel to Officially support 1600mhz FSB.

**kris23** · Dec 26, 2007, 03:36 PM

yea.... i know that the X48 move is minimal,

and i do know the northbridge is the memory controller, there are some gains from the whole x48 deal.

id just feel better going with the most recent chipset really.....

3FUN · Dec 30, 2007, 06:47 AM

What about the processor?

Judas · Dec 30, 2007, 12:00 PM

A system with 2gb+ DDR2 and a HD3850/HD3870 or 8800GT would be more approperiate...

To keep costs low though, the e6550 is a good performing chip..... inline with the midrange...

Dec 25, 2007, 10:24 AM	#1
3FUN DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Macedonia Posts: 77 Rep Power: 18 System Specs	Plaese tell me what you think of my new pc Hi I am building a new pc and i need some thoughts for my configuration. I already have: ASUS P5E3 ASUS EAH2400PRO just ordered Kingstone DDR3 1GB 1066Mhz and thinking of getting Intel Core2Duo E6550. Is this a good configuration for games? Thank You.

Dec 25, 2007, 11:33 AM	#2
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,316 Rep Power: 64 System Specs	not exactly..... you paired one of the most powerful boards on the planet with an HD 2400PRO, 1GB of snail paced RAM and the lowest end Conroe on the market? i would understand if those were stepping stone components, meaning you would upgrade as soon as the new affordable stuff comes out. but as of right now, that system doesnt meet the standards of ANY high end gaming. the 2400 card probably wont be able to play any of the latest games even on minimum settings. DDR3 1066 is a heck of alot slower than DDR2, thats why people should only get DDR3 1600 or just stick with DDR2. it probably wouldn't be able to handle XP loading very well let alone some kind of game like crysis or COD4 the e6550 is powerful, somewhat...... but every other component you have chosen is going to bring it down. the system board you have right now is ranked right around 3rd place in terms of performance of the worlds most powerful boards....... but they cost over $300 good DDR3 is going to set you back $400-500, a good quad core will set you back $280, a good GPU will set you back $279-390 if you cant afford this price tag then dont continue anymore, it will be a very expensive waste of your money.. if you give me your price range, i can put together a better performing list for your price. __________________ Driverheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (9/4/09) New i5 systems with more to come! Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Dec 25, 2007, 12:05 PM	#3
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,316 Rep Power: 64 System Specs	looking at the components you have and are getting, this is what i came up with in the $700 range Newegg.com - EVGA 512-P3-N801-AR GeForce 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail Newegg.com - Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-P35C-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 Conroe 2.33GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail Newegg.com - ZEROtherm Nirvana NV120 120mm 2-ball UFO Bearing / Transparent CPU Cooler - Retail Newegg.com - Tuniq TX-2 Thermal Compound - Retail that is what i came up with for the money you are spending on your system. something leagues ahead of what you are getting..... if you buy this system, you WILL get gaming __________________ Driverheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (9/4/09) New i5 systems with more to come! Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Dec 26, 2007, 01:27 AM	#6
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,316 Rep Power: 64 System Specs	uhh..... there are tons of cards that have full DX10 support. but if you are talking DX10.1 then thats a whole other story all ATi 3000 series cards support DX10.1 and shader model 4.1 even though theyre a joke at higher ends...... its really pointless upgrading at this time, you are buying at the worst time possible, you have no money and cant buy the recommended hardware 1 gig sticks arent even the real things to buy, in a few months, the performance DDR3 will all be 2 gig sticks the X48 motherboards are so close to release, they have a modified memory controller which enhances throughput and latencies further, they are worth it if you are truly taking DDR3 seriously. the best route to go wouldve been to buy the system i listed up on top, buy some DDR3 1800-2000mhz when the time is right and go to nehalem straight after. but seeing as how you bought the components already, you sealed your path. i already answered your question, you cant game with your current setup, you will need at least an 8800GT or HD 3850 __________________ Driverheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (9/4/09) New i5 systems with more to come! Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Dec 26, 2007, 06:03 AM	#8
cozumel I'm dangerous but cute... Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Under the waves... Posts: 3,619 Rep Power: 42 System Specs	Is it worth considering an X48 then or is it better to wait for Nehalem based mobo next fall? __________________ Don't worry about money - Be a beach bum! Scuba Rocks

Dec 25, 2007, 06:38 PM	#5
3FUN DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Macedonia Posts: 77 Rep Power: 18 System Specs	I am planing on upgrading after a while to +1GB (total 2GB), and waiting for a better graphic that fully supports DX10.

Dec 26, 2007, 03:36 PM	#11
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,316 Rep Power: 64 System Specs	yea.... i know that the X48 move is minimal, and i do know the northbridge is the memory controller, there are some gains from the whole x48 deal. id just feel better going with the most recent chipset really..... __________________ Driverheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (9/4/09) New i5 systems with more to come! Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Dec 30, 2007, 06:47 AM	#12
3FUN DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Macedonia Posts: 77 Rep Power: 18 System Specs	What about the processor?