Judas

Get a P5KSE asus motherboard... they pack what anyone would really need.... dirt cheap to.... work very well... includes realtek ALC883 on it as well.. big bonus there

just a FYI... for those looking for a cheap but damn decent motherboard... (intel 775)

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kris23

thank God you posted before you bought man...

Newegg.com - ASUS P5E LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Newegg.com - Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
Newegg.com - XFX PVT88PYDF4 GeForce 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Newegg.com - ZEROtherm Nirvana NV120 120mm 2-ball UFO Bearing / Transparent CPU Cooler - Retail
Newegg.com - ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound - Retail
Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor - Retail

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merlinxi

why?

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kris23

that hardware you chose wouldve been

a expensive
b old
c poor performance

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merlinxi

even the ram?

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kris23

well the ram sucks so it goes under the poor performance category

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merlinxi

but the stuff you showed me is much b etter?

Actually a better question what makes the ram suck and this one better.

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kris23

Micron D9GMH chips baby, Crucial is THE company to buy from for the best memory. the low end OCZ sticks use Elpida chips or something that suck.....

P.S. the Micron D9GMH chips are what OCZ uses in their FlexXLC 1150Mhz memory and other high end sticks

another P.S. ChaosMinionX and JustLearnin our ex Intel Super Modified and current Intel Pro Stock winners use sticks based off of D9GMH

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PangingJr

another good DDR2-1066 2x1G memory kit, G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-2GBHK.

i have one of this memory kit when it first showed up many months ago and find this memery runs very well under Intel P35-based motherboard.
it's quite a strong Micron D9 based DDR2 memory modules, it's an exceptional cool running memory at high volts, it can be used at low volts as well.
at the present time, it has a very reasonable price tag.


here below is some info and memory overclocking and test results if you interest it.

G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-2GBHK - XtremeSystems Forums


and if you are going to use Vista x64 and want to use 4GB of RAM system... check out this memory kit...

G.Skill F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ DDR2-1000 2x2G memory kit.

i'm interested in buying it and to replace my 4 GB of RAM system and see how this kit work myself.
it's a non-Micron D9 based memory mudules, this kit seems to run very cool and use low volts for overclocking a little.

here below is some info about the memory kit.

[MemoryReaction] G.Skill F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ - Low in cost, high in speed! - XtremeSystems Forums

[Photos] 4GB G.Skill F2-8000CL5D 4GBPQ 5-5-5-15 - i4memory.com


btw, i have my own reasons to use G.Skill products. i'm not advertise to marketing G.Skill products.

kris23

another kit with D9GMH man.... i recommend not getting the 2x2GB sticks Panging mentioned, you can always load your system with 4 sticks of Crucial BallistiX or G.Skill 2GBHK, theyre good sticks and good companies, i used G.Skill RAM before, it was awesome!

with D9GMH you can do some insane OCing on the Quad Core

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PangingJr

with 1GBx4 on some motherboards, there will likely be more difficulty in overcloking and at the same time run the system memory at high speed (at DDR2-1000MHz and above) than 2GBx2.

even you have a good overclocker DDR2 DRAM chips, but with 1GBx4, it will be more difficult to overclock that chip.

merlinxi

Holy .macrole the Nirvana just went down in price. From 49.99 to 39.99. I am still going to wait until Black Friday to order this stuff.

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kris23

the nirvana is a good heatsink man....

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merlinxi

Anyone know a good overclocker program for Video Cards, Nvidia Video Cards? Or a link to it?

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kris23

rivatuner? only thing i know that pumps up 8800GTs

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merlinxi

I use the 7950 gx2, it seems ot keep the frame rate the exact same in 3dmark 05 and 6 even pumped up 100 mhz and it messes up the fan control as well. I don't understand why,.

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kris23

the 7950GX2 has a long, long history of being absolute garbage for the dollar.... now even the budget cards beat it....

just toss it, your getting a new system anyway

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BlueMak

Eh, the 7950gx2 was very expensive, but not a slow card. It was the fastest of the previous generation and I doubt a 8600 would be as fast.

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kris23

lol im talking 8800GTS 320 and 8800GT

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merlinxi

I am getting the three new components of my system, not a new vid card.

With my current system, Crysis does not run half bad at all , with all very high settings. Bit of pauses and things, but the frame rate is acceptable.

With my newer system I can't wait to find out how it runs.

It seems my fan on my Vid card does not automatically speed up when it's on load. Don't know why.

Is there an issue with OC'ing this vid card I have?

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kris23

the stuff is your choice man... figure out what you need to do to get what you want.


just telling you that you'll get better performance, better OC and better looking graphics with the 8800GT

so whether you cant afford a new one or you have some kind of attachment to that thing.... im done here, you already have all my recommendations,

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BlueMak

Download Rivatuner and use the setting to let the program deal with the fan setting. Just don't forget to tick where it says to load at startup.
I had the same problem and the program solved it for me.

I have it at 92% all the time and no problems under idle (noise) or full game marathon (temperature). Either do something similar or let the program decide its own setting on the fly.

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merlinxi

How about this MBOARD?

Newegg.com - ASUS P5N-E SLI LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

I need one with a Digital input for Sound, is this one as good as the other one you showed me?

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cozumel

The Asus P5K-E costs only $15 more but has a better chipset (P35) has a 16 lane PCI Express slot and is just far more future-proof

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merlinxi

Oo fine with me!

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merlinxi

okay Ladies and Gents, this is the final system I am getting. If I am making a mistake please inform me lol:
Newegg.com - Foxconn FV-N88XMAD2-ONOC GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported OverClock Video Card - Retail
https://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produ...tCode=10006488
https://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produ...tCode=10006946
https://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produ...tCode=10007195
https://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produ...ductCode=80864

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cozumel

If your going to buy a cooler than better you get a quality thermalright like this:

Thermalright Ultra-120 $59.99

Of course you would need a decent 120mm fan like a Scythe S-Flex or Noctua model. Dont forget to use Artic Silver for better transfer whichever one you choose.

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kris23

the ASUS P5E x38 is alot better to get due to the PCIe 2.0 specifications and advanced crossfire capabilities if you ever need them

the X38 chipset is more advanced and is better for OCing it is Intel's extreme series chipset vs P35 which is Intel's mainstream chipset

the coolers the Nirvana and the Thermalright are good, the thermalright being the better more than likely, but i never seen hard reviews of them together.

the Nirvana scored top cooling in every single test of every modern heatsink except the thermalright heatsinks, they werent in the test bed

the nirvana is cheaper too.

while the 8800GTX is a good card, i highly suggest finding a place that has 8800GTs they are more overclockable than GTXs or Ultras. its a worthwhile find especiaally with the Nvidia 780i if you wanna go for that in a few months. you can buy 2 8800GTs for the price of 1 8800GTX so i suggest taking a look around

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merlinxi

Actually I think I will wait for this":

ATI Radeon HD 3800 Specs Leaked - MegaGames pc

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kris23

yea the 3870 x2 dual-core cards are coming out soon so i HIGHLY suggest you get the ASUS P5E x38 board man, it will be better for your 3800 series cards, you will run them at 100% capacity

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