cpu cooler?

Neshi

i'm upgrading my system to a E6600, together with asn Asus Commando motherboard and some corsair twinX 2g ram (5-5-5-12 and not the C4).
Now I'm wondering what cooling i shall put on there, and i plan to do some overclocking...
i was thinking about the Arctic Freezer 7 Pro, but heard there were some loud sound issues...
what do you guys suggest for me to take, without paying too much.. best bang for bucks kinda thing. about 25 euros, which is about 30-33 dollar..

ChaosMinionX

Ive used an Arctic Freezer 7 Pro, whoever said it had audio issues must have virgin ears that have never heard people whispering...That fan is quite as a church mouse, and is more than ample cooling for a E6600 @ 3.2ghz 400x8

Will idle around 40-50C load wont go over 60C if all is well.

Also depends on your ambient temps.... (IE Room Temp, Case Temp)




That being said, why not check out a P35 based mobo, the P965 is quite old, and the P35s are very promising. Especially since your paying Commando prices which are still in the $200 realm, and the P35 has 1333mhz FSB support, as well as a better memory controller and is a bit more stable.

Neshi

already bought it.. read some reviews of the board that said it was quite good, and overclocked pretty nice too.
Should i just keep it, or try to return it to the store and exchange it for the P5K Deluxe (the first board that caught my attention with P35)

So, the AF 7 Pro it will be.. bought some AS5 too, so it will cool pretty good i guess..

edit: i just read this; 'With the February 7th BIOS update (version 0803), the Commando can now operate with CPUs using the 1333 FSB.'

edit2: i think i'll just keep the commando.. i don't have to have the best of the best. and the commando is still pretty high-end and a much better board then the A8N-E i had.

ChaosMinionX

For 20$ more you get a much better board, if you just got the commando your nuts to keep it over the P5K Deluxe.....

Lowfat

If you can take the Commando back i'd definitely recommend it also. Something with a P35 chipset will OC just as good if not better.

ChaosMinionX

Eh? Resident Mac Guy, whats that about low?

Lowfat

I love mac's and its my job

kris23

get the Gigabyte P35 DQ6 or ASUS P5K Deluxe

the better choice is the Gigabyte as the cooling is far superior and the layout is just better because nothing gets in the way of the ports.... i hear they didnt properly heatsink a few things on the Deluxe(something about mounting stuff on the back without a heatsink thats needed) dunno if it was the Deluxe or another P5K board..... thats why i try to steer clear of ASUS mobos just so i dont have to go nuts

there are more PCI-E x1s too

so if possible, get the P35 DQ6 if they have it

ChaosMinionX

Lovin my P5K DLX so far, then again you will hear the same from Low on his DQ6

Neshi

i'm able to return it... first thing i'm gonna do monday
and they haven't got the DQ6.
Holland is always a bit behind with pc hardware..
thx for theheads up chaos.

the latency difference of the ram, 5-5-5-12 vs 4-4-4-12, will that be noticable when overclocking?

ChaosMinionX

Certainly will, your a whole digit lower on CAS which is your biggest performance boost when OCing RAM, followed by actual speed (mhz)....run the tightest possible timings with the best speed you can thats stable... and usually I try not to sacrifice timings unless its a 50-100mhz better bandwidth, even then its pushing it on whether I want to run DDR2 1000 4-4-4-10 or DDR2 1200 5-5-5-15....for synthetic benchmarks the higher speed ram will probably produce better numbers, where as far as gaming is concerned the tighter timings with lower speed will produce more stable FPS...no sudden drops, usually stays within 5-10fps drops not 10-20 with looser timings. Again mileage may vary

Neshi

hmmm, seems i'm stuck with those C5 ram. They had to order it specially for me, so i cant cancel that order (nor exchange it for the C4 ram). Ill see how good it'll OC.
Ah well.. it isnt bad ram, just a pity its not C4...

wondering though, is that C4 not just factory 'overclocked'? cos it seems to me they are just the same except for the tighter timings..

edit:
Has anyone got an advice on what ddr2 ram to get?

ChaosMinionX

Well in a sense, yes it is factory overclocked...however through hand picking IC's which is what they do for their mid-high end modules is how they get the tight timings with high clocks....Some ICs dont clock well at all, some fly. Some like tight latencies, some like them loose, some will get major performance boosts with higher voltages, others may not like voltage and become unstable. Lots of factors come in to play when they make the modules, and what they will run at.

The CAS5 stuff may very well be able to do 4-4-4-12, just it wont be guaranteed by corsair, and it may need more voltage to do so. Theres lots of things to consider when your deciding what ram to buy.


EDIT: If your looking for midrange ram.....Corsair 6400C4PRO or 8500C5D (Dominator Modules)......They are both great clockers, also check out some of the OCZ stuff...Although I only exclusively use corsair

Neshi

i just found the OCZ2G11002GK, with 5-6-6-15 timings.. thats pc-8800
that any good?
i can just resell the corsairs, and hope i wont lose too much money on it